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My reaction on seeing your thread title was, "Absolutely." But on reading your actual OP, these parents are insane. They are the poster parents for the "Why Homeschooling Is Evil" movement. Of all people, homeschoolers—the real ones—know that performance is the ultimate and only true indicator of educational effectiveness. The attitude you describe is so Out There that I'm tempted to say it's not an appalling travesty at all, but merely a highly localized example of parental insanity that has no bearing on the larger world.

This is a very common experience when parents decide to homeschool. It makes sense - no matter how good an educator, 1:1 mentoring from an engaged and loving parent, will pretty much always be superior to any sort of group educational experience. There are of course exceptions, but surely the math makes sense. Undivided attention and time from a parent, vs. divided attention from a teacher. The long term studies started showing up 15 years ago - in every demographic, absolutely every one, homeschooled kids outperformed their public schooled counterparts in most metrics. Academic achievement, , grade level proficiency, readiness for college or careers, and yes, even including "extracurricular activities" (which was a surprise to many). Yes indeed - every demographic. Including single minority mothers living below the poverty line in inner cities. That category was like 80% better homeschooled than public schooled in the study I read.

If these kids were reading extremely advanced material, doing advanced math, then yes, I'd be all over advocating for them to the skip or accelerate. But the kids I've seen are extremely typical. Not bad students, mind you, just perfectly average for their age. As for living through their children, I am seeing one such case where the parents are very much trying to advocate for the schooling they wish they had. It's "well, Mom and Dad did this, so of course the students will be able to achieve such greatness."

Perhaps these parents just don't understand what education really is. Or, they just want school to be done because they are just fed up with actually taking care of their own kids for once. Who ever thought a parent was more responsible for their child's education than the teacher? 7 year old's don't belong in 3rd grade unless they are a true genius...those types of kids are reading Charlotte's Web at age 4 and doing long division in 1st grade...very rare. Some parents who are now teaching their children for the very first time may think that because their little one knows 2+3=5 they are at the top of the class. These parents have no way to truly grade and judge their child's development because they have no one to compare them to. Kids also miss out on developing many soft and social skills when they don't interact with kids their own age. Advancing children grades should be a rare event. Many parents view their children with rose colored glasses that are, let's just say, very rosy. Some parents also try to live through their children to make up for past failings and/or insecurities. You see this behavior in youth sports all the time...dad wants little Timmy to make it to the major leagues because dad loves baseball, and so he enrolls him in traveling competitive baseball teams and spends thousands of dollars getting him professional equipment and coaching lessons. What dad doesn't want to see is that Timmy truly sucks at baseball, and will never play beyond high school. Better to even out the eggs than to put them all in one basket with a gaping hole in it. Now, are some education classes worthless...absolutely. I work in the medical field, and it is a common joke amongst doctors and nurses that none of us ever use the advanced algebra we were "required" to take in order to graduate college. It is true that y=mx+b, but no doctor in the world today actually needs that information to treat patients. I do think it would be better for schools to focus on information that is truly applicable to everyday life, and save the specialized stuff for college. College should be more specialized then it currently is as well...yet so may worthless "general education" courses will always be required because it is such a cash cow for those universities. Can education be gained outside of school and university walls...yes. However, having a diploma matters, more so for the hard work and sense of accomplishment than the knowledge in my opinion. Kids should not graduate high school without actually learning something. Many millennial parents are setting up the future generation for failure due to a sense of entitlement, lack of work initiative, and an inability to cope with defeat. So many kids and young adults are afraid of the world and just want to stick their head in the sand because they don't know how to apply knowledge and/or think critically.

I had never seen it before this year, and suddenly I have three cases.

I've since seen a supposed tweet by a show producer that states they are two separate projects and there will be a Mando season 3 and the Boba Zett spin off.

This video suggests that there are different levels of forgiveness that one can give based on the level of remorse expressed by the person in need of forgiveness. My question is for any Christian, LDS or otherwise. Do you think the ideas about forgiveness in this video are compatible with the gospel of Jesus Christ and what He taught about forgiveness? Why or why not?

I do not want you to feel bad about your profession - but I learned more of how to deal with life in two months of basic training in the army than I did in K-12 of public schools and 6 years of college. I may be the exception because I am dyslexic and learned to read and write on my own (but still rely a great deal on spell check). I was able to get a strong background in science from school - but I either was the smartest or dumbest kid in any of my school classes. I believe an education should help make someone useful and able to function in society - I am not sure that is what education is attempting in our society. I am quite sure that what happens outside of the classroom has a far greater impact on the success of our next generations. The Traveler

Needless to say we have opposite opinons here

Keep in mind I pretty much advocate any form of schooling that works, but from my friends who do homeschool, it seems that once the kid enters junior high/high school age, the work with the parents drops off extremely, those same kids interacting in the same curriculum as any other teenager, associating with those same fellow teenagers. Of course your method of homeschooling may not be that, but it's what I've seen. I've often seen homeschooling families buying the same curriculum many schools use. What makes buying curriculum other students are using different for each family?

You make some valid points, @Jane_Doe, but your final summation: Is utterly opposite to what I have seen. The growth of children, the sanity of the family, and the benefit of society as a whole results from children being taught the skills for correct and appropriate social interactions. The opportunity to teach such things is constant, daily, all around us. Schools have no monopoly on teaching such skills, nor any particular ability to do so. On the contrary, most of the social conditioning learned in public schools (and I speculate in private schools, as well) is uniformly negative. The older the child gets, the more soulless the "education" offered. Individual teachers may indeed offer great value to some students, but the way the system is set up is not to the exaltation of the individual's gifts and the harmonization of society, but rather to the stamping out of all inconvenient impulses and enforced conformity to an all-too-often arbitrary standard. I refused to sacrifice my own precious children to the so-called greater good of society by sending them to public school, especially as young children. I have great hopes that my children will follow in those footsteps and preserve my grandchildren from such a course of action. Your mileage may vary, of course. You are tasked to care for your children, and you will answer to God, not Vort, for how you discharge that duty. And in point of fact, I'm happy to support you in your parental efforts, even if they don't always mirror my own. But in my personal experience, "the schooling experience" is an almost uniform evil, and not something I care to expose my young children to.

I'll answer this as a parent, on our weird journey this last 12 months-- DD started last year (Fall 2019) going into Kindergarten knowing her letters and sounds, but struggling to blend "D-O-G" into 'dog'. She was also a little particular about somethings and can be prone to tantrums when told to re-do something. So all in the normal range for incoming Kindergartners. While she loved going to Kindergarten... her old-school teacher whom really struggled with any non-neortypical students. Teacher would tell us all the time "your daughter's just too far behind, I can't handle her, you really should advocate that she get a full time para, etc". Which was the opposite of what my daughter needed. It was very frustrating, and my daughter made little academic progress. In March we suddenly find ourselves homeschooling. In desperation, I ordered a bunch of random stuff off of Amazon, with the criteria being "are you in stock?". And with that grab bag stock, we worked hard--- my daughter needs a scheduled regiment to function, and I need it so we don't drive each other crazy. With her having so much positive reinforcement, individual attention, and truly individualized learning plan, my daughter suddenly flourished. By the end of the quarter, her reading level was mid-first grade and math mid second grade (adding 100's together, etc). Her 1st grade school has been fully in-person, she started at the top of the chart on all subjects, and she.... honestly hasn't made much progress this year because so many other kids are catching up and she's so far ahead. She's actually atrophied in a lot of areas, which is frustrating. I now know that my husband and I are by FAR the best teachers for my daughter, and she can go so much faster and higher than what she gets at her school. If we really wanted to she could learn all high-school material and be graduated by age 12. I also know why we're NOT doing that. Because there is HUGE benefit in her going to school beyond the academics. She learns social skills, communication, listening, teamwork, following through when she's not the center of attention, etc. Those are PARAMOUNT. And I can't teach those at my kitchen table. Not the way she really needs it. Yes, I and DH are the most important teachers she can have, but that doesn't down play the essentialness of that entire team of teachers and students. And I am SO thankful for how much I know her 1st grade teacher, principle, staff, and all of professionals have worked their tails off to give her a great experience in this extreme topsy-survey year. The schooling experience (not just the academics) is so critical for kid's growth, family sanity, and society as a whole.

Yeah, the ranting on the 3H Facebook group has been very amusing. “Well, when WE do it, it isn’t really ‘energy healing’ . . .”

I think the artistic depictions are to convey that all of us, no matter what we look like, are children of heavenly parents. The Church does not teach about the racial appearance of spirit children in relation to their parents (race is a human social construction, not an eternal principle). I believe great variety is achievable among the children of heavenly parents for a variety of reasons, including what can happen over eons in a pre-mortal spirit world. So theoretically, an exalted couple can have spirit children that look very different from them as well as very much like them. Our features are said to resemble our spirits, but we also know there is interference in how genetic material operates in relation to our spiritual design in this fallen world, and that genetic material can undergo change in the mortal world. Doctrinally, gender is an eternal characteristic that does not change, and there is a "proper and perfect frame", "proper order", "natural frame" and "proper order" to a resurrected body (word search the Book of Mormon).

The Lord's tells us the following Since we commonly think the Lord means what the video called Exoneration. This sound very hard but then in the very next verse he gives more detail on how we are to forgive by saying Now when I read that verse... that does not sound like an Exoneration or Forbearance (As the video described the terms) to me. That sounds like what they called Release to me. Let God deal with it does not mean the slate has been wiped clean, but rather that you have passed the slate to God to do whatever he wants to with it. That would be my take on it. That would and is how I would teach some one that for whatever reason was struggling to Forgive. So while there are some details one could quibble about I generally do not thing the ideas in the video is out of line.

It’s Austen, people. Austen.

You have to have radioactive water (in the ocean) to create Godzilla...

Some people have their "sacred cows" within the church. I'm watching the statement on energy healing rage amongst those whose sacred cow is energy healing. smh.