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Yes, you can. We decided on Nauvoo, as it was roughly half the distance between where our parents lived. And, of course, the historical significance made it all the more enticing. *I also just realized I misspelled Nauvoo in my previous post. Shame on me. 🙄

Vort and Mirkwood... you are both jerks... I only know that cause it takes one to know one.

I asked my stake president if being in the ACLU would keep me out of the temple. He looked surprised and said it wasn’t about politics. It’s probably the same thing.

There is a difference between arguing that something is right, versus arguing that it is not the kind of wrong that can or should be prohibited by government action (eg adultery, fornication, gay sex, recreational drug use, cussing). I believe that directly participating in/encouraging a specific person to undergo an elective abortion, remains grounds for church discipline; but under present conditions it’s kind of hard to envision the Church administering ecclesiastical discipline to a member over the member’s political positions. In a broader historical sense, I believe that question was added to the TR interview primarily to weed out fundamentalists and other polygamists whose theology (as of the 1920s-1940s) said that while the LDS Church was doctrinally wrong, the true sealing keys could still be found in LDS temples and thus it was necessary to feign allegiance to the LDS Church long enough to get your own temple work done.

More correctly, one could say we are pro-revelation for the rare exceptions. The correct interpretation of the Church position is that abortion is always unjustified except when God reveals otherwise, and that He will not reveal such outside of the circumstances of the specified possible exceptions.

So, last year, I noticed a couple co-workers started adding their pronouns to their email sigs. I decided to go full-out radical activist Christian love, found my work's "diversity allies" employee resource group, and joined it. Basically took my white-Christian-conservative-cisgendered-heterosexually-and-monogamously-married-homeschooling-parent self, and did a cannonball into the deep end of the woke pool, yelling "Here I am, who wants to cancel me?" My only tactic was to radiate the 2nd great commandment as well as I could. They were actually glad to have me - they were genuinely befuddled about why there were so many people on the right upset about so many things. That was last August. I'm still alive, undoctrinated, largely unchanged. I've learned their language, and they've learned some of mine. I've survived sticking up for the rule of law and the Rittenhouse verdict. I've survived criticizing some parts of Kendi's "How to be an Antiracist" book, including it's founding principle. I've heard "I wish my mormon in-laws were as rational as [NT], we might actually be able to have a discussion that didn't turn into an argument." I've found some genuine friends - which surprises me as much as it surprises them. Anyway, I think I understand the intent behind all the pronoun stuff. The thing to keep in mind, is the woke crowd will move heaven and earth just for an opportunity to make a transgender person feel welcome. Whether they know any or not. Whether they could actually recognize one or not. Whether the trans person wants to feel welcome, or would prefer to be left alone. So they stick their pronouns on things, and do their best to urge/press for/force cultural change to normalize it for everyone. Because they don't want trans folks to feel picked-on, or discriminated-against, or sad, or suicidal. *shrug* Well, neither do I. 2nd great commandment and all that. I don't think pronouns are gonna do much, but hey, they're doing them, and I'm doing me.

The problem with cloning is the problem of replication error. Scientifically we know this exist in the natural reproduction of species which is considered part of evolution. The replication error that are a disadvantage to the primal instinctive advantage of an individual in the gene pool - nature will eliminate that mutation or that mutation will eventually eliminate that species. It would seem that any disadvantage to any of the primal instincts will eliminate the individualerl or species. The Trave

Joseph's is the skull missing the face. Natural decay; note that Emma died years later and without massive injury, but her exhumed body was in much worse shape than either of the brothers. The shot that killed Hyrum apparently did not mess up his facial structure very much.