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  1. The Father and the Son A Doctrinal Exposition by the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles This week in my local EQ we are going over President Oaks talk, The Teachings of Jesus Christ. Wherein he essentially quotes Christ 35 times. The only other document that is linked is the above doctrinal exposition.
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  2. I'm legitimately surprised they're still asking for no beards to be worn.
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  3. I made a Facebook account for the family cat. Why? I have no idea.
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  4. Elder Oaks' talk: The Teachings of Jesus Christ (churchofjesuschrist.org) I was impressed how the order of the quotes in this talk detail "the stages of eternal progression and attainment" (I took this phrase from the 1916 Doctrinal Exposition) in this world or estate, both covenantal and developmental.
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  5. Most Christian denominations would appreciate the article's emphasis on the differences between Father and Son. Trinitarians agree that the Father and Son are distinct beings. The main area of disagreement would be the doctrine that human intelligence was eternal in the pre-existence.
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  6. Love it. Jared Halverson did an episode of his show Unshaken called The Awful Arithmetic of the Atonement where he spends a portion differentiating this concept of Jesus Christ the Son and the Father, particularly as it pertains to the words of Abinadi. I personally have not heard this question brought up recently, maybe even since my mission. Maybe this concept is just much better understood now, or maybe members and instructors just gloss over scripters that identify Christ as the Father more often.
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  7. What's not to love? It gives clear explanation of scriptures that might otherwise be confusing.
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  8. That’s exactly why you should run.
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  9. Wow. Well, I will never run for office, but thanks for the support!
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  10. Do you need an explanation For the minimization Of the duration Of the miscalculation Of the compensation For the guild representation?
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  11. Here in Utah our representatives for state offices or not so bad – even though any person that makes the primaries has been bought and sold to the party leaders (democrat or republican). This is because fundraising is controlled by the party. A while back I attended a mass meeting of the republican party in an effort to make some suggestions. They wanted to elect me to be a delegate to the state convention. In order to decline I had to explain why they could not elect me. I would suggest for anyone that thinks that they can influence better candidates that they become active in internal party politics and specifically work for their party raising campaign funds. Either that or have a few extra millions to donate to the candidates of their choice. When @mirkwood decides to run as a republican for whatever office – I will support him, donate to his campaign, vote for him and do whatever I can to support him. If I must – I would even register as a republican. The Traveler
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  12. CV75

    Awake and do what?

    I would say from verse 30, he had in mind to build Zion and prepare for the Second Coming: to do away will evil, do good continually, come unto the fountain of all righteousness and be saved. He also counsels us in verses 23 - 26 to search the prophecies of Isaiah (a reference to the latter-day restoration of all the keys), remember the covenant made to the Book of Mormon prophets and people upon the land (a reference to building the New Jerusalem) and the Book of Mormon itself.
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  13. JohnsonJones

    Awake and do what?

    Epstein didn't kill himself... I think some of the awake to our awful situation points out that we ARE in an awful situation and to do what we do in other awful situations. When the tornadoes hit and the floods come, what do we do? We gather our resources together, we gather ourselves together, and we prepare to survive through the onslaught. In a similar manner, we are in the midst of this awful situation today (though it will probably get a LOT worse). We need to gather together often in our wards and stakes. Edify each other in the gospel and build our testimonies against the moral assaults that are attacking us and our families.
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  14. Carborendum

    Awake and do what?

    We can either act or be acted upon. When we sleep, we're being acted upon. When we wake, we act. Turn this on its head: If we have our own plans, goals, and actively seek to do good, we're awake. If we just go about life reacting to everything else without any plans or goals, we are asleep. In other words: If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.
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  15. Ironhold

    Awake and do what?

    Sometimes, just being of good character and encouraging others to be of good character is enough to rebuke a corrupt system, hence all of the screaming you'll hear when modern "progressive" types see people who live with classical mores.
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  16. THE ANSWER: I believe all 3 are fake. These are all accounts that sought membership in my ward's Facebook page. Folks requesting access answer 3 questions: - Are you a member of [NT's] ward, and are your records on our rolls? - If not, who recommended this site to you? Sorry for the hassle, we just get a lot of scam accounts and I need to verify you're real. - Do you promise to follow the group guidelines? All three of them gave a "yes" to question 1. None of them appear in my ward directory. None of them said a single thing when I blocked their account and told them why. I'm grateful I don't have a bishopric member who fights for these spam accounts because "We should let 'em all in, they look like nice people, and maybe they'll learn something and feel the spirit." I know other folks have to deal with that level of technical savvy.
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  17. And to answer your question, @prisonchaplain: Yes, Latter-day Saint youth (and adults) struggle with the politics of their elders and their contemporaries. There is plenty of Trump dislike among Latter-day Saints, though to be sure he has his staunch defenders as well. It seems to me that many Saints fall on the political spectrum somewhere near the point where you hold your nose and vote for Trump, because he's the best of a bad lot. You may be aware that the Book of Mormon mentions a king named Morianton who arose among the ancient people of Jared. A descendant of a previous king named Riplakish who was tremendously wicked and led his people to destruction and ruin, Morianton again united the people through war, installed himself as king, and then ruled in a profitable and apparently just manner, so that the people anointed him to be king (that is, he was king not just by the right of warfare but by the consent of the people). But the tale of the Jaredite Morianton* includes an interesting observation: Morianton himself was a wicked man due to his "many whoredoms", and was cut off from the Lord. Ether 10:9-11 reads: And it came to pass after the space of many years, Morianton, (he being a descendant of Riplakish) gathered together an army of outcasts, and went forth and gave battle unto the people; and he gained power over many cities; and the war became exceedingly sore, and did last for the space of many years; and he did gain power over all the land, and did establish himself king over all the land. And after that he had established himself king he did ease the burden of the people, by which he did gain favor in the eyes of the people, and they did anoint him to be their king. And he did do justice unto the people, but not unto himself because of his many whoredoms; wherefore he was cut off from the presence of the Lord. I have heard many of the Saints, including myself, compare Trump to Morianton. Given the choice between Morianton and Riplakish, who would you choose? Morianton, of course. The Saints don't celebrate Trump's vainglorious rantings, but life under President Trump was simply better than under President Biden. If Trump is Morianton, Biden is Riplakish. The Saints, and Americans in general, don't have to love Trump in order to vote for him. They can be indifferent toward him or even dislike him and still conclude he is by far the best available option. Unless real evidence of deep corruption by Trump arises (and the current news stories about Trump are mostly hit pieces with lots of allegations, while the same news agencies studiously ignore the abundant, well-attested corruption of Biden and the Democrats), I will almost certainly vote for Trump should he win the Republican nomination. He's not my first choice, but after seeing what he accomplished as President when I didn't vote for him in 2016, I refuse to discount the man. Btw, Trump's idea to purchase Greenland was brilliant. He should have followed through. When the Netherland government so condescendingly told him that Greenlanders were in charge of their own destiny, he should immediately have approached them (the Greenlanders) with a buyout offer. The art of the deal and all that. It would have been the greatest acquisition since Alaska. *Note that the earlier Book of Mormon narrative (of a much later time period) mentions a Morianton among the Nephites who founded a city and created contention. The two Moriantons are separated by culture, language, and time (centuries, probably), so even though both were wicked, don't confuse them.
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  18. I think that's the critical detail. Why doesn't he feel welcome?
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  19. https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/singers-needed-for-new-church-hymnbook
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  20. @mirkwood, you've been warned. I'd attend every meeting on your calendar, FAITHFULLY. Miss even one and you're likely to be elected chairmen of the board! Congratulations in advance.
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  21. I think it's great, but a majority of other Christian denominations would unfortunately consider it heresy.
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  22. It's just my job, five days a week.
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  23. Jeez - picky picky. Well, if doctrinal purity in our hymnal is such a sticky point for you, I suppose this one is out too.
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