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  1. Carborendum

    Abortion

    Statements from general authorities are very consistent. "Abortion is like unto murder." There is apparently an ecclesiastical difference. Yet "It cannot be overstated that it remains one of the most grievous sins of this generation (dispensation)." Some use the "like unto murder" as some sort of "get out of jail free card." That is ridiculous. "Oh, I didn't commit murder. I only committed a sin so close to murder that it is difficult to tell the difference." This won't stand up well when brought before our Maker. It should be a HUGE blinking red sign that we ought to do all we can to stay away from it as much as possible. On the other hand, we make allowances for abortion that would not be had for murder of one outside the womb. Rape victims are essentially given a green light (I'm being generous with that terminology, I know). If it is murder, why that allowance? Of the three parties involved, the baby is certainly the one who certainly has no guilt in the matter. There is a difference that warrants some different treatment. Yet, it is so close that it should never be taken so carelessly as so many do in this generation. It is this sliver of a difference that causes so much grief among people who aren't given enough light to understand what they are choosing.
    4 points
  2. I went for about a two mile hike with my daughter and dogs in the Wasatch mountains yesterday. We were up there when the sun was settings. As the sun went down we were bathed in a golden light for about ten minutes. The view up there was also magnificent.
    3 points
  3. mikbone

    Israel declares war

    Of note is the scripture in the bottom right of the picture, or the far left side of the desk. 2 Ne 29: 5 O ye Gentiles, have ye remembered the Jews, mine ancient covenant people? Nay; but ye have cursed them, and have hated them, and have not sought to recover them. But behold, I will return all these things upon your own heads; for I the Lord have not forgotten my people. Also, notice that the chapter ends with these words. And I will show unto them that fight against my word and against my people, who are of the house of Israel, that I am God, and that I covenanted with Abraham that I would remember his seed forever.
    2 points
  4. Alma 35 v3: Don't let anything stand between you and the word of God. v8: As if we didn't already have enough reason to dislike the Zoramites. v16: Counsel with your children, teach them the gospel. Alma 36 Alma is consistent in his teachings. God blesses those who keep the commandments. Remember what God has done for you and your ancestors. Trust God and turn to him for support. v5+: Testify of your own conversion. v17-20: One reason to always remember Christ is the immediacy of his relief and mercy. v24: Forgiveness should inspire you to share the joy of repentance with others. v25: Doing God's work should bring you joy. If not, figure out why not. v27+: Trust in God. Have hope.
    2 points
  5. Grunt

    Abortion

    I've never really cared where "most folks" lie on most topics. I'm very comfortable with my "deal" and how it aligns with Heavenly Father's "deal".
    2 points
  6. I think trust is the key. Sometimes we just have to turn it all over to a higher authority.
    2 points
  7. I hear that. I've got 3 people in roughly your situation. A divorced guy in his 40's, a divorced guy in his 50's, and a widowed guy in his 70's. I've walked with all 3 and heard their stories of dating. They all decided to try dating. Both online and local. They all have a year of "dating horror stories". Two are now married. One via dating site and multiple trips between states. One found someone a couple wards away. One is, to put it diplomatically, way too unique to find the right match. But holy heck did they all end up with some weird stories. My guy in his '40's lives in CO, found someone in ID, they flew back and forth to date for 6 months, then got married. 3 months after the marriage, they moved to VT to start fresh. It was weird, but it seems to be working. My guy in his '70's was terribly lonely after his wife's passing, but did indeed finally find a widow with a similar story, and they're going to be together for the rest of life, which is enough for them. If you've got energy, I'd say keep trying. Mind your private data. Trust nobody at first, use dating as a way to test and develop trust in each other. "It's good to meet you, glad to find out you're not a scammer from another country." The numbers are in your favor. There are far more single women in their '50's and '60's yearning for a temple marriage, then men. They are out there to be found.
    2 points
  8. Is your heart pure and your eye single to God's glory? If so, you have nothing to worry about, my friend.
    2 points
  9. Please see the Book of Mormon Reading Group thread for details (and discussion of 1 Nephi 1 - 5). Our goal is to read the Book of Mormon by the end of the year. I'll make a new post before each Monday so that it's ready to go - weeks go from Monday to Sunday for our purposes. This week's schedule: Nov 13 Alma 40 Monday Nov 14 Alma 43 Tuesday Nov 15 Alma 43 Wednesday Nov 16 Alma 46 Thursday Nov 17 Alma 47 Friday Nov 18 Alma 49 Saturday Nov 19 Alma 51 Sunday Last Week: Book of Mormon Reading Group: 06 Nov - 12 Nov 2023 (Alma 26 - Alma 37) Thread Index
    1 point
  10. I see in the news where a person in South Korea was killed by an industrial robot. Link https://www.foxbusiness.com/fox-news-world/man-crushed-death-industrial-robot-confused-box-police Since this was my life’s profession and consulting business, I have had discussions with plant managers and others about the “kill zones” of robots. Sadly, I am aware of several robot kills – some so foolish and stupid it is hard to imagine what people were thinking. One of the saddest was a worker that disappeared for a week before he was discovered crushed by an ASRS robot. He had observed the robot and thought it had a flaw not using a particular location in an ASRS rack. ASRS stands for automated storage and retrieval system. He placed a matrass in the location and took naps – until a 3-ton load was placed there by the robot while he was sleeping on the job. One of the great problems with A I and robots is when humans attempt to interface outside of robotic design or mix human intelligence with what is intended for A I. I believe there will be a great advantage to have A I controlled transportation vehicles but what is left out of the notion of cars that will drive themselves is the mixing of humans with A I on the same roads. Because of what I call the kill zone of robots – I do not believe that human interference is a good idea – kind of like using human fingers to change gears in the gear box of a car. Any human doing that kind of thing will likely lose their fingers. As advanced as we may think our society is – there are a lot of stupid humans that must need be removed from the gene pool before we will be ready for what A I and automation is bringing. The Traveler
    1 point
  11. Just_A_Guy

    Israel declares war

    Indeed. And at a time when we are still dickering over getting the Dubai temple built, and looking towards keeping good relations with the Arab partners of the BYU Jerusalem center, it’s conceivable that the Lord doesn’t feel the costs are worth the benefits for the Church to come out as stridently pro-Israel.
    1 point
  12. laronius

    Israel declares war

    I don't think he has to be subtle about it. Our doctrine is very clear that those lands were given to Israel by God. It doesn't matter who else may have resided there in the past, that's Israel's land. God says so. Though I guess it might not be taken right if he were to express support for any type of conflict, even if it is justified. But it is interesting to see him focusing on these scriptures. Makes you wonder what his prophetic eye sees in these events as it pertains to the future.
    1 point
  13. Sorry to drag up Muppets Christmas Carol again, but 37:37 makes me think of that. I've never been able to do it though. When I wake up in the morning, it's not so much "let thy heart be full of thanks to God" as "Ugggggghhhhhh...is it really 7 already? I'll have 5 more minutes" which is actually more than 25 more minutes, followed by a mad scramble to get dressed and out the door without very much "thanks to God" along the way. Something to work on... P.S. First mention of the Liahona for a long, long time. No mention of who now has it though.
    1 point
  14. What did the Lord mean by this verse? I thought by the time this revelation was given, in 1839, many former close friends of Joseph had betrayed him, contended with him, and charged him with transgression. 10 Thou art not yet as Job; thy afriends do not contend against thee, neither charge thee with transgression, as they did Job.
    1 point
  15. I could be wrong; however, as to my understanding of Job "all" his "friends" abandoned him and did contend against him saying he was a sinner (so to speak). I often think about Hyrum with this verse and Joseph Smith. If Hyrum, and those like him, would have contended against Joseph Smith I think he would have been like Job. I also think the "key" point to this verse is "as they did Job." It's not just the contending, but how the contending occurred and what took place as a result. There's also a lot of Job's experience we don't have and what really happened to him. We have knowledge of it, but do we fully comprehend and have all the details?
    1 point
  16. That question comes from a July 2011 BYU devotional, "His Grace Is Sufficient", by Brad Wilcox. I think it's a really good question. I wish child-me had understood this concept of letting (or pleading for) the Lord (to) change your heart. I was 40-something before I had an experience wherein I knew, beyond any doubt, that the Lord had changed my heart. It took about 2 years of constant prayer. (Maybe he'd done so at other times without me knowing it, but that was the first time I was aware of it.) I consider that pretty pathetic and my younger self obscenely clueless. Anywho... Here's a quote from the devotional: "learning heaven", "why the debt existed in the first place". Man. I should just start watching every BYU devotional ever. There are so many gems in there. I recommend this one.
    1 point
  17. Yes, I'm thankful for the "grace" I have received that I know I have received that has changed my heart and mind. I also agree, I wish my younger self would have understood the principle of Grace before my mission, after my mission, and a couple years after my mission before I realized it. This discussion from Brad Wilcox is a good discussion with good insight. My first recognition of "grace" occurred when I finally understood Abraham 1:2. The only way this is possible is through grace, and without God's grace we could not grow in knowledge nor in righteousness.
    1 point
  18. mordorbund

    Abortion

    I agree that very rarely does a person participating in a debate changer their mind from the debate, but it does happen. Dave Rubin went full derp-face while interviewing Larry Elder and subsequently changed his views on black victimhood narratives. @NeuroTypicalhas more experience with online debates than I do, but I’m sure he’ll agree that the person you’re trying to convince is not the die-hard staring at you but the silent lurker sitting on the fence observing the proceedings. These individuals change their minds all the time because they’re coming to the debate wanting to be persuaded.
    1 point
  19. Carborendum

    Abortion

    Here are some quotes to consider:
    1 point
  20. Joseph had friends betray him. But he always had support from most of the Saints. Joseph also had some very close friends / followers that remained supportive even after being put through rough tests of loyalty (Brigham Young & Heber C Kimball come to mind). Job didn’t have any support. Both Job & the Liberty Jail scriptures are excellent references that we can use to give us strength in adversity. My favorite is D&C 122:8
    1 point
  21. LDSGator

    Abortion

    And happy Veterans Day to @Grunt, @Phoenix_person and everyone else here who served! God bless you!
    1 point
  22. Grunt

    Abortion

    Wins what? Did I inadvertently sign up for a competition?
    1 point
  23. And that God is good, and that he loves you.
    1 point
  24. A celestial marriage takes both a husband and a wife. From what you said it doesn't sound like you had a righteous and willing partner wanting to be and remain sealed to you. But regardless of what happened in the past, rest assured that there is great cause for hope in all blessings!! It is not too late. Even if you don't find and marry someone in this life, it's not too late. The plan of salvation allows for all blessings to the faithful! This is one of the great truths of the restoration. Jesus Christ is your hope!! As you seek Jesus, all blessings remain available to you because of Him. Here are some quotes from a recent Liahona article ( https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/liahona/2023/06/06-acting-in-faith-while-hoping-for-marriage-8-ideas-for-adults-who-are-single?lang=eng ) The Lord intends to bless you with a celestial marriage and exaltation. Have faith and hope in Jesus's power and ability to provide all blessings to the faithful, even if you don't understand the how. Live according to that faith. Here's one last quote: === Edit to add this from Revelation 21:2-4
    1 point
  25. I was raised in the Church, and was always taught that those who do not have the opportunity to receive the blessings of eternal marriage in this life, will do so in the next life. And, yes, one must be sealed to a spouse to enter the highest degree of glory in the Celestial Kingdom; however, if one does not have that opportunity during their mortal probation, they will have that opportunity in the next life, so long as they are worthy.
    1 point
  26. Just picked up my kids from FSY. We also brought a couple of others home (car pool) and they had breakfast with us.
    1 point
  27. If they didn't make a Twilight Zone episode about this they missed a great opportunity.
    0 points
  28. Since I was not on the forum when this thread had its first life ( @prisonchaplain thanks for the resurrection) I've decided to add one. If at your wedding, the bride isn't pregnant, but her mother is.
    0 points