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Baptism Baptism by immersion in water by one having authority is the first saving ordinance of the gospel and is necessary for an individual to become a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and to receive eternal salvation. All who seek eternal life must follow the example of the Savior by being baptized and receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost. Baptism in the Lord's Way The Savior revealed the true method of baptism to the Prophet Joseph Smith, making clear that the ordinance must be performed by one having priesthood authority and that it must be done by immersion: "The person who is called of God and has authority from Jesus Christ to baptize, shall go down into the water with the person who has presented himself or herself for baptism, and shall say, calling him or her by name: Having been commissioned of Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen. "Then shall he immerse him or her in the water, and come forth again out of the water" (D&C 20:73–74). Immersion is symbolic of the death of a person's sinful life and the rebirth into a spiritual life, dedicated to the service of God and His children. It is also symbolic of death and resurrection. (See Romans 6:3–6.) The Baptismal Covenant Those who are baptized enter into a covenant with God to take upon themselves the name of Jesus Christ, keep His commandments, and serve Him to the end (see Mosiah 18:8–10; D&C 20:37). Church members renew this covenant each time they partake of the sacrament (see D&C 20:77, 79). Those who keep the covenants they made at baptism are blessed by the Lord for their faithfulness. Some of the blessings include the constant companionship of the Holy Ghost, the remission of sins, and the privilege of being spiritually reborn. If they continue faithfully, they are promised eternal life (see 2 Nephi 31:19–20). Little Children and Baptism From latter-day revelation, we know that little children are redeemed through the mercy of Jesus Christ. The Lord said, "They cannot sin, for power is not given unto Satan to tempt little children, until they begin to become accountable before me" (see D&C 29:46–47). They are not to be baptized until they reach the age of accountability, which the Lord has revealed to be eight years of age (see D&C 68:27; Joseph Smith Translation, Genesis 17:11). Anyone who claims that little children need baptism "denieth the mercies of Christ, and setteth at naught the atonement of him and the power of his redemption" (Moroni 8:20; see also verses 8–19, 21–24). See also Faith; Holy Ghost; Obedience; Priesthood; Repentance; Sacrament —See True to the Faith (2004), 21–26 Scripture References Acts 2:37–38; 2 Nephi 31:4–13; Alma 7:14–16; 3 Nephi 11:18–41; 27:13–22; D&C 39:5–6, 10; 76:50–53; Articles of Faith 1:4 Link: LDS.org - Topic Definition - Baptism

Repentance Repentance is one of the first principles of the gospel and is essential to our temporal and eternal happiness. It is much more than just acknowledging wrongdoings. It is a change of mind and heart that gives us a fresh view about God, about ourselves, and about the world. It includes turning away from sin and turning to God for forgiveness. It is motivated by love for God and the sincere desire to obey His commandments. The Need for Repentance The Lord has declared that "no unclean thing can inherit the kingdom of heaven" (Alma 11:37). Our sins make us unclean—unworthy to return and dwell in the presence of our Heavenly Father. They also bring anguish to our soul in this life. Through the Atonement of Jesus Christ, our Father in Heaven has provided the only way for us to be forgiven of our sins (see Forgiveness). Jesus Christ suffered the penalty for our sins so we can be forgiven if we sincerely repent. As we repent and rely on His saving grace, we will be cleansed from sin. Elements of Repentance Repentance is sometimes a painful process, but it leads to forgiveness and lasting peace. Through the prophet Isaiah, the Lord said, "Though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool" (Isaiah 1:18). In this dispensation the Lord has promised, "He who has repented of his sins, the same is forgiven, and I, the Lord, remember them no more" (D&C 58:42). Repentance includes the following elements: Faith in Our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. The power of sin is great. To become free from it, we must turn to our Heavenly Father, pray in faith, and act as He asks us to. Satan may try to convince us that we are not worthy to pray—that our Father in Heaven is so displeased with us that He will never hear our prayers. This is a lie. Our Father in Heaven is always ready to help if we will come to Him with a repentant heart. He has the power to heal us and to help us triumph over sin. Repentance is an act of faith in Jesus Christ—an acknowledgment of the power of His Atonement. We can be forgiven only on His terms. As we gratefully recognize His Atonement and His power to cleanse us from sin, we are able to "exercise [our] faith unto repentance" (Alma 34:17). Sorrow for Sin. In order to be forgiven, we must first acknowledge within ourselves that we have sinned. If we are striving to live the gospel, such an acknowledgment will lead to "godly sorrow," which "worketh repentance to salvation" (2 Corinthians 7:10). Godly sorrow does not come because of the natural consequences of sin or because of a fear of punishment; rather, it comes from the knowledge that we have, through our actions, displeased our Heavenly Father and our Savior. When we experience godly sorrow, we have a sincere desire for change and a willingness to submit to every requirement for forgiveness. Confession. "He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy" (Proverbs 28:13). Essential to forgiveness is a willingness to disclose fully to our Heavenly Father all that we have done. We must kneel before Him in humble prayer, acknowledging our sins. We confess our shame and guilt, and then plead for help. Serious transgressions, such as violations of the law of chastity, may jeopardize a person's membership in the Church. Therefore, such sins need to be confessed to both the Lord and His priesthood representatives in the Church. This is done under the care of a bishop or branch president and possibly a stake or mission president, who serve as watchmen and judges in the Church. While only the Lord can forgive sins, these priesthood leaders play a critical role in the process of repentance. They will keep confessions confidential and help throughout the process of repentance. Abandonment of Sin. Although confession is an essential element of repentance, it is not enough. The Lord has said, "By this ye may know if a man repenteth of his sins—behold, he will confess them and forsake them" (D&C 58:43). We must maintain an unyielding, permanent resolve that we will never repeat the transgression. When we keep this commitment, we will never experience the pain of that sin again. We must flee immediately from any compromising situation. If a certain situation causes us to sin or may cause us to sin, we must leave. We cannot linger in temptation and expect to overcome sin. Restitution. We must restore as far as possible all that has been damaged by our actions, whether that is someone's property or someone's good reputation. Willing restitution shows the Lord that we will do all we can to repent. Righteous Living. It is not enough to simply try to resist evil or empty our lives of sin. We must fill our lives with righteousness and engage in activities that bring spiritual power. We must immerse ourselves in the scriptures and pray daily for the Lord to give us strength beyond our own. At times, we should fast for special blessings. Full obedience brings the complete power of the gospel into our lives, including increased strength to overcome our weaknesses. This obedience includes actions we might not initially consider part of repentance, such as attending meetings, paying tithing, giving service, and forgiving others. The Lord promised, "He that repents and does the commandments of the Lord shall be forgiven" (D&C 1:32). See also Atonement of Jesus Christ; Baptism; Church Disciplinary Councils; Faith; Forgiveness; Plan of Salvation; Sin; Temptation —See True to the Faith (2004), 132–35 Scripture References Luke 15:11–32; 2 Nephi 9:19–24; Mosiah 4:1–3, 10–13; 26:30–31; D&C 18:10–16 Link: LDS.org - Topic Definition - Repentance

Faith The Apostle Paul taught that "faith is the substance [assurance] of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen" (Hebrews 11:1). Alma made a similar statement: "If ye have faith ye hope for things which are not seen, which are true" (Alma 32:21). Faith is a principle of action and power. Whenever we work toward a worthy goal, we exercise faith. We show our hope for something that we cannot yet see. Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ In order for faith to lead to salvation, it must be centered in the Lord Jesus Christ (see Acts 4:10–12; Mosiah 3:17; Moroni 7:24–26; Articles of Faith 1:4). We can exercise faith in Christ when we have an assurance that He exists, a correct idea of His character, and a knowledge that we are striving to live according to His will. Having faith in Jesus Christ means relying completely on Him—trusting in His infinite power, intelligence, and love. It includes believing His teachings. It means believing that even though we do not understand all things, He does. Because He has experienced all our pains, afflictions, and infirmities, He knows how to help us rise above our daily difficulties (see Alma 7:11–12; D&C 122:8). He has "overcome the world" (John 16:33) and prepared the way for us to receive eternal life. He is always ready to help us as we remember His plea: "Look unto me in every thought; doubt not, fear not" (D&C 6:36). Living by Faith Faith is much more than passive belief. We express our faith through action—by the way we live. The Savior promised, "If ye will have faith in me ye shall have power to do whatsoever thing is expedient in me" (Moroni 7:33). Faith in Jesus Christ can motivate us to follow His perfect example (see John 14:12). Our faith can lead us to do good works, obey the commandments, and repent of our sins (see James 2:18; 1 Nephi 3:7; Alma 34:17). Our faith can help us overcome temptation. Alma counseled his son Helaman, "Teach them to withstand every temptation of the devil, with their faith on the Lord Jesus Christ" (Alma 37:33). The Lord will work mighty miracles in our life according to our faith (see 2 Nephi 26:13). Faith in Jesus Christ helps us receive spiritual and physical healing through His Atonement (see 3 Nephi 9:13–14). When times of trial come, faith can give us strength to press forward and face our hardships with courage. Even when the future seems uncertain, our faith in the Savior can give us peace (see Romans 5:1; Helaman 5:47). Increasing Our Faith Faith is a gift from God, but we must nurture our faith to keep it strong. Faith is like a muscle. If exercised, it grows strong. If left immobile, it becomes weak. We can nurture the gift of faith by praying to Heavenly Father in the name of Jesus Christ. As we express our gratitude to our Father and as we plead with Him for blessings that we and others need, we will draw near to Him. We will draw near to the Savior, whose Atonement makes it possible for us to plead for mercy (see Alma 33:11). We will also be receptive to the quiet guidance of the Holy Ghost. We can strengthen our faith by keeping the commandments. Like all blessings from God, faith is obtained and increased through individual obedience and righteous action. If we desire to enrich our faith to the highest possible degree, we must keep the covenants we have made. We can also develop faith by studying the scriptures and the words of latter-day prophets. The prophet Alma taught that the word of God helps strengthen faith. Comparing the word to a seed, he said that the "desire to believe" can lead us to "give place" for the word to be "planted in [our] heart." Then we will feel that the word is good, for it will begin to enlarge our souls and enlighten our understanding. This will strengthen our faith. As we continually nurture the word in our hearts, "with great diligence, and with patience, looking forward to the fruit thereof, it shall take root; and behold it shall be a tree springing up unto everlasting life." (See Alma 32:26–43.) See also Baptism; God the Father; Jesus Christ; Repentance —See True to the Faith (2004), 54–56 Scripture References Hebrews 11; James 1:5–6; 2:14–26; Ether 12:4–27; Moroni 7:20–48; D&C 63:7–11; 90:24 Link: LDS.org - Topic Definition - Faith

Of all this, I thought it was very interesting what you did not comment on as on the example he (MN I believe) gave you of the Savior's Baptism by John & Luke 7:30, but I'll repost it just in case you missed it. ------------------------------------------------------------- "Suffer it to be so now to fulfill all righteousness, Matt. 3: 15. 13 ¶ Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. 14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Jesus came and was baptized of John, Mark 1: 9. 8 I indeed have baptized you with water: abut he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. 9 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan. The Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God, being not baptized, Luke 7: 30. 26 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? Yea, I say unto you, and much more than a prophet. 27 This is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee. 28 For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he. 29 And all the people that heard him, and the publicans, justified God, being baptized with the baptism of John. 30 But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him. " -------------------------------------------------------------- Was that for "euphemism or imagery" purposes what was written about the Savior's literal baptism? The fact that Jesus went to John to be baptized, because Baptism is an essential ordinance, shows us that we should follow Him doing the same things we saw Him do as He taught us. I affirm that your view on baptism is clearly nonbiblical as the Bible shows it so clearly. Either that or the Bible is contradicting itself by the way you explained your interpretation of some verses. ''While there are verses that appear to teach the necessity of baptism there are better ways of interpreting such passages so they remain in line with the general thrust of the New Testament as a whole. '' Better ways of interpreting? By whom? By what authority would this person be qualified to interpret the words of God? What men qualify to interpret "such passages in better ways so they remain in line with the New Testament"? The only "better way" of interpreting the scriptures always has been through Prophets that God Himself has called to do that work, of interpreting and teaching them to people. "so far as I can see." I suggest you to re-read the New Testament... with "eyes to see.' In the parable Jesus taught, He used parables so those who didn't understand "simple" things wouldn't understand the depth of His teaching (Out of His mercy); only those who could "see," and had understanding of simple things, could grasp the meanings of the parables, and sometimes they, Apostles, struggled with it. "That means you cannot add anything to it like" The scriptures are simple and clear... to those who understand them in its simpleness. No scientific explanations or terms are needed. To add an "euphemism" view to passages that are clear... is to add something to what is simply stated there by Jesus Himself or the Apostles. "Gospel truths are spiritually discerned," "To understand spiritual things, a man must have spiritual discernment, i.e., guidance by the Holy Ghost." (Pres. J.F. Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, 1:296-97) Please don't be discourage because we can point out clearly based on the scriptures our view as taught and interpreted to us by a Prophet of God who is guided by the Holy Ghost. I would like to point out something: What is your motivation, primary, Evangelical, to come to a LDS forum or to research "Mormonism" at all? You don't need to answer it, but it would be very profitable for you, I feel, if you would think about it and understand your motivations for such; if anything at all, you'll definitely learn more about yourself. Islander gave you a wise counsel "listen to yourself" We can simply agree to disagree; asking questions is one thing... getting quotes out of context to twist it is something else; coming to a LDS forum to have a scripture interpretation debate is also not asking about our views on something. Questions are: What do you think or how do you LDS view baptism? Can you explain why you view this way? My faith such.... views this way; I'm curious and can't understand another way to view it; can you explain some more how you view and interpret the way you do?... And along those lines.... those are types of questions. With all respect, Be well!

The work of the Lord will go one, and no "unhollow hand" will stop it... However, the members of the church have a lot to do with the Church's progress as shown in many parts of the BOM. For the purpose of this post, I'm citing Alma 4:6-15 which talks about the condition of the Church just before Alma, the Younger, had to resign from the Judgement Seat, to preach the word of God to the people (Members of the Church). Alma 4 6 And it came to pass in the *eighth year of the reign of the judges, that the people of the church began to wax proud, ... 7 Now this was the cause of much affliction to Alma, yea, and to many of the people whom Alma had consecrated to be ateachers, and bpriests, and celders over the church; yea, many of them were sorely grieved for the wickedness which they saw had begun to be among their people. 8 For they saw and beheld with great sorrow that the people of the church began to be lifted up in the pride of their eyes, and to set their ahearts upon riches and upon the vain things of the world, that they began to be scornful, one towards another... 9 And thus, in this eighth year of the reign of the judges, there began to be great acontentions among the people of the church; yea, there were benvyings, and cstrife, and malice, and persecutions, and pride, even to exceed the pride of those who did notbelong to the church of God. 10 And thus ended the eighth year of the reign of the judges; and the wickedness of the church was a great astumbling-block to those who did not belong to the church; and thus the church began to fail in its progress. 11 And it came to pass in the *commencement of the ninth year, Alma saw the wickedness of the church, and he saw also that the aexample of the church began to lead those who were unbelievers on from one piece of iniquity to another, thus bringing on the destruction of the people. -------------------------------------------------- The way the members of the Church live the teachings, the example of the members, can affect to a great degree other's ability to believe and become a member; it can help the Church to progress or not. There are those who are faithful through all just like the ones who stood firmly through the trials the Church went through with Alma, but the numbers were few comparing to the entire church membership. In my ward now, there's approximately 500 members, of that, about 350-375 are adults; only about 100 - 150 are active. The previous ward I attended, when I baptized, I saw this cycle... it progressed greatly, up to 150 members, then, because of the examples, people stopped attending every Sunday, then going inactive, and others following... the inactive ones, sometimes, pressing the actives ones, with much malice, gossiping, scorn, sarcasm, etc... until there were only a little over 10 people left... it closed last year... Pride is the great stumbling-block. It makes me ponder my own example... The work will go forth whether with 13 Million or 6500000 (Parable of the 10 Virgins)...

Welcome to the site! Well, I hope you find what you're looking for, and ask question if you don't understand something so we can clarify it to you. Going through the threads here, with so many different opinions and diversity of religious views or none, can be a little confusing to understand the stance of the Church on some issues. I'd suggest to take a look at the websites Pushka posted on post#1, Mormon.org & The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints so that you can begin at your pace, and explore the topics you wish to, and learn our basic beliefs. My boss is a muslim, and I'm used to dealing with people from many different backgrounds, and learning about them. I look forward to getting to know you, and if I may be of service, contact me! Wish you well!

Congratulations! I'm glad you're feeling this way! I can even sense your joy from here :)

Sleepover, especially not knowing the parents, is a no-no at all for me! Children can be exposed to a series of detrimental things that I do NOT expose my children in my own house; some things are trivial, but some things are really serious stuff whether it's a home with same-gender parents or not! A couple of years ago, I met a couple, same-gender, and they invited me to go to their home with my children; since I had met them before in different circumstances, and they were not "in your face" type, and seemed very respectful, good individuals, and knew my beliefs, and respected that, I felt comfortable going to their home with my children. As far as sleep-over, I would not allow them, not only because of the same-gender factor, but because even if that's not a factor, other things could be, like watching inappropriate channels, movies, alcohol, drugs, etc... and I'm very concerned with sexual abuse... As Islander said, I would take the same apporach even with relatives/friends who don't share the same beliefs & lifestyle I do! I also would not feel the need to allow my child to sleep-over someone's house just because the other child came to mine. Your son is old enough, and will realize things; as many people have said, teach what's right and the Lord's position on it; teach him to love people, but not to condone things that are not right based on the Lord's teachings (which can be hard for a child to understand how to draw the line; some grown-ups don't understand that either). It's a great teaching opportunity! I'd suggest you to get acquainted with the family, take your child there along with you to meet them, and spend a few hours, and see things for yourself. There's nothing wrong with saying you don't allow him, your child, to sleep over anyone's home if that's the case. I feel for their child though... I would probably make arrangenments to meet at parks, or somewhere outside more often so that he could also have a friend to play with. Again, as with any cousel or advice, I would gather as much opinion as possible, think about them, make a decision, and take it to the Lord for Him to confirm it. Wish you well!

Thanks for the update! Tests will always come; we just need to be aware not to be caught in snares & traps, especially subtle & confusing ones; you learned He hears & answers our prayers; the feelings you feel now after overwhelming darkness (Dark feelings - Fruits of the enemy's spirit) are the "fruits of the Spirit" of God as stated in Galatians 5:22-23 I sincerely hope you learn from this, and continue to press forward on what you're taught, hold on to the truth, the word of God, prayer, fasting, the prophet's teachings,... And armed this way, you'll be able to make the right decision facing any circumstance! If you hearken to God, you'll always make the right decision! I'm glad to hear of your courage so early on; and to see your courage influence your best friend to do what's right... The Lord works in many different ways to reach out to all of us (Read Alma 24 and what happened to the Lamanites who converted unto the Lord - The Anti-Nephi-Lehies) This greatly strengthens my testimony, fuels my faith, and hope! Thank you again for sharing it! The truth does set one free!

Welcome to the site! Look forward to reading your posts!!! And congrats on your baptism!

I would just say that willful disobedience (Going against the Lord's teachings/commandments/prophet's counsels) willfully (Knowing the will of God & choosing/doing the opposite) is hell! Disobedience can invites sadness, confusion, depression, feelings of low self-esteem, lack of confidence,... several emotional & physical issues as well... and those things can make us feel as if we were in hell... lose hope, faith, etc.. ... ... The torment of the soul... I'm not saying that all ailments and illnesses are caused by disobedience; however, I have felt horrible feelings as I have slightly chosen to go against what I know. Once I repented, and choose the right, they were was gone! I think that a topic for another thread though.

I just would like to quickly say something... When you hear advice and teachings... please check with your beliefs, ponder them, and make a decision, and take it to the Lord,... and let HIM confirm to you that the course of action you chose to follow iS right! Be well, and wish you the best!

To me, if she/he came to ask me for help, and is a friend, and she/he considers me a friend, I'd tell whether or not she/he liked to hear the truth. She's asking for your support... you said she's your best friend... she should consider you also the same way... Why couldn't you tell her that? She's upset because wickedness is never happiness... She's feeling the consequences of her choices; it's hard, really hard; however, cutting off the life of a child in its development won't make it better; it'll just add much more pain to her condition. Telling her is compassion; warning her that she'll suffer much more is compassion & pure love! I would tell him/her, and let them make up their mind aobut it; I would not be repeating it over and over (It's not of me to do that), I dislike nagging...

If I consider someone my friend, I would tell her what I think and feel especially if she/he came to me to ask for help. I'd also tell that two wrongs don't make it right; she needs to take responsibility; however, telling the husband should be something she needs to do herself, I believe. I would always try to direct that to herself, but whether she would do herself or not, I wouldn't do or say anything to him of myself... If he asked me.... I would press her to tell him herself.

Hello, I have learned the meaning of the word friendship, and by no means it involves putting my friends into supporting me to do something agains their beliefs and hide things that are obviously wrong; if they weren't, she wouldn't have to feel she needs to hide them. I do echo and agree that the Gospel of Jesus Christ will cause division in families, friendships, etc. if the person lives the teachings/commandments, and is not "diplomatic' about the teachings of the Gospel. You don't have anything to do with her decision; we can be compassionate without supporting obvious wrong things people decide to do. Compassion & love has nothing to do with condoning/supporting actions of others when they are wrong actions; compassion is feeling in yourself the trouble the other person put themselves into, or will put themselves into, their suffering, lack of understanding, etc... but not holding their hand and helping them to do what you know to be wrong in the sight of God. She doesn't know or believe, but you do as I do! Pray & ponder... study the scriptures, ask the Lord to answer you and help you understand these things; He will answer you!

I feel the same way as many other people. Attraction to the same-gender is not sin in itself, but acting on it is what Father defined as sin. The same way, if I engage in unlawful (Out of bonds of marriage) relationship with someone of the opposite-gender, I will commit a sin in the eyes of God as well; He will not justify/excuse me because the person I'm with is of opposite-gender. That's justice! He loves the person equally, not the sin, the acting against His commandements/laws/teachings.

Obedience Many people feel that the commandments are burdensome and that they limit freedom and personal growth. But the Savior taught that true freedom comes only from following Him: "If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:31–32). God gives commandments for our benefit. They are loving instructions for our happiness and for our physical and spiritual well-being. In the premortal existence, Heavenly Father presided over a great Council in Heaven. There we learned of His plan for our salvation, which included a time of testing on the earth: "We will make an earth whereon these may dwell; and we will prove them herewith, to see if they will do all things whatsoever the Lord their God shall command them" (Abraham 3:24–25). One reason we are here on the earth is to show our willingness to obey Heavenly Father's commandments. The Prophet Joseph Smith taught that obedience to the commandments leads to blessings from God. He said: "There is a law, irrevocably decreed in heaven before the foundations of this world, upon which all blessings are predicated—and when we obtain any blessing from God, it is by obedience to that law upon which it is predicated" (D&C 130:20–21). King Benjamin also taught this principle. "I would desire that ye should consider on the blessed and happy state of those that keep the commandments of God," he counseled. "For behold, they are blessed in all things, both temporal and spiritual; and if they hold out faithful to the end they are received into heaven, that thereby they may dwell with God in a state of never-ending happiness. O remember, remember that these things are true; for the Lord God hath spoken it" (Mosiah 2:41). Our obedience to the commandments is an expression of our love for Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. The Savior said, "If ye love me, keep my commandments" (John 14:15). He later declared: "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love" (John 15:10). See also Agency; Plan of Salvation —See True to the Faith (2004), 108–9 Scripture References Joshua 24:14–15; Ecclesiastes 12:13; Matthew 7:21; John 7:17; 1 Nephi 3:7; D&C 58:21–22; 82:8–10 Link: LDS.org - Topic Definition - Obedience

Atonement of Jesus Christ As used in the scriptures, to atone is to suffer the penalty for sins, thereby removing the effects of sin from the repentant sinner and allowing him or her to be reconciled to God. Jesus Christ was the only one capable of carrying out the Atonement for all mankind. Because of His Atonement, all people will be resurrected, and those who obey His gospel will receive the gift of eternal life with God. As descendants of Adam and Eve, all people inherit the effects of the Fall. In our fallen state, we are subject to opposition and temptation. When we give in to temptation, we are alienated from God, and if we continue in sin, we experience spiritual death, being separated from His presence. We are all subject to temporal death, which is the death of the physical body (see Alma 42:6-9; D&C 29:41–42). The only way for us to be saved is for someone else to rescue us. We need someone who can satisfy the demands of justice—standing in our place to assume the burden of the Fall and to pay the price for our sins. Jesus Christ has always been the only one capable of making such a sacrifice. From before the Creation of the earth, the Savior has been our only hope for "peace in this world, and eternal life in the world to come" (D&C 59:23). Only He had the power to lay down His life and take it up again. From His mortal mother, Mary, He inherited the ability to die. From His immortal Father, He inherited the power to overcome death. He declared, "As the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself" (John 5:26). Only He could redeem us from our sins. God the Father gave Him this power (see Helaman 5:11). The Savior was able to receive this power and carry out the Atonement because He kept Himself free from sin: "He suffered temptations but gave no heed unto them" (D&C 20:22). Having lived a perfect, sinless life, He was free from the demands of justice. Because He had the power of redemption and because He had no debt to justice, he could pay the debt for those who repent. Jesus's atoning sacrifice took place in the Garden of Gethsemane and on the cross at Calvary. In Gethsemane He submitted to the will of the Father and began to take upon Himself the sins of all people. He has revealed some of what He experienced as He paid the price for our sins: "I, God, have suffered these things for all, that they might not suffer if they would repent; "But if they would not repent they must suffer even as I; "Which suffering caused myself, even God, the greatest of all, to tremble because of pain, and to bleed at every pore, and to suffer both body and spirit—and would that I might not drink the bitter cup, and shrink— "Nevertheless, glory be to the Father, and I partook and finished my preparations unto the children of men" (D&C 19:16–19; see also Luke 22:44; Mosiah 3:7). The Savior continued to suffer for our sins when He allowed Himself to be crucified—"lifted up upon the cross and slain for the sins of the world" (1 Nephi 11:33). On the cross, He allowed Himself to die. His body was then laid in a tomb until He was resurrected and became "the firstfruits of them that slept" (1 Corinthians 15:20). Through His death and Resurrection, He overcame physical death for us all. Jesus Christ redeems all people from the effects of the Fall. All people who have ever lived on the earth and who ever will live on the earth will be resurrected and brought back into the presence of God to be judged (see 2 Nephi 2:5–10; Helaman 14:15–17). Through the Savior's gift of mercy and redeeming grace, we will all receive the gift of immortality and live forever in glorified, resurrected bodies. Although we are redeemed unconditionally from the universal effects of the Fall, we are accountable for our own sins. But we can be forgiven and cleansed from the stain of sin if we "apply the atoning blood of Christ" (Mosiah 4:2). We must exercise faith in Jesus Christ, repent, be baptized for the remission of sins, and receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. See also Baptism; Death, Physical; Death, Spiritual; Eternal Life; Faith; Fall; Forgiveness; God the Father; Gospel; Justice; Kingdoms of Glory; Mercy; Ordinances; Plan of Salvation; Repentance; Resurrection; Salvation —See True to the Faith (2004), 14–21 Scripture References Isaiah 49:13–16; 53; Matthew 26–28; Mark 14–16; Luke 22–24; John 10:14–15; 11:25–26; 14:6; 15:13; 19; 20; 1 Corinthians 15:20–22; Hebrews 4:14–16; 1 John 1:7; 1 Nephi 10:6; 2 Nephi 2:1–10; 9; 25:23–26; Jacob 4:12; Mosiah 3:1–19; Alma 22:14; 34:5–18; 42; Helaman 5:9–12; 14:13–19; 3 Nephi 9:14–22; 27:13–22; Mormon 9:10–14; Ether 12:27, 41; Moroni 8:5–26; 10:32–33; D&C 18:10–12; 19:15–24; 20:17–34; 45:3–5; 76:40–43; Moses 1:39 Link: LDS.org - Topic Definition - Atonement of Jesus Christ

I echo your feelings... I live in a big town, but such a transient ward, and many, many people are inactive around my age group (30+) as well,... so... I know I have the responsibility to keep searching and looking, but I know when the time is right, and I meet the right person.... then... Look for stake activites as well as Moksha suggested; it might give you a few more options.

Justamere10, I think I understand what you want to convey, abiding by a terrestrial law, and yes, the law of chastity is extremely important to obey in all aspects of it, but we don't go around preaching the law of chastity before we preach the gospel of Christ beginning with faith, repentance, God, Jesus Christ,... People need to want to learn those things, and as they learn, and especially study the scriptures, the word of God, that has power to change feelings, behaviors, attitudes, dispositions, spiritual ills, etc... until they study those things for themselves and have faith and the Holy Ghost can testify and give them a witness of those trues, preaching "fear" will not necessarily bring them to act upon things they don't know, the basics of the gospel. Alma did preach, better yet, exhorted them, the people of Zarahemla & Ammonihah, and many were brought to "fear" as they realized they were taught, and were not living those things, but the difference is... they were members of the church, and many were slacking, some were dissenters/apostates... They had been taught... but had chosen to do something else. The GA's have been exhorting members in several ways during conference talks... and teaching again and again basic principles. What are they trying to say to us? How are we doing with those things that are repetitive? One if just establishing the words of another, on, and on... Why? Who is the audience they are trying to reach is this case? The members of the church, not non-members! We chose & made covenants, they did not; we need to make sure we are doing what we covenant to do, and keep the laws that will help us achieve the highest degree of glory if this is our ultimate goal. Approaching nonmembers, I believe we need to approach and preach the basics (as the Missionaries have been taught to do, and they do a wonderful job at it), until we get the law of chastity that is also part of the basics, but not before faith & repentance. Tithing is also a law that is required for the Millenium times... but we don't begin with tithing... but with faith & repentance.

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Hello, just a quick thought... I feel that if there's anyone who should really worry about going to hell should be particularly the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints! D&C 82: 3 3 For of him unto whom much is given much is required; and he who sins against the greater light shall receive the greater condemnation.

Hi I found a talk years ago that helped me a lot as I listed carefully to what she said, and followed the steps. Perhaps, it could also help you: Link: Audio Formats I listened to it quite a few times, wrote down stuff, and followed the promptings I received as well as sought the enabling & strengthening power of the Atonement of Jesus Christ which is what enabled me to get "out of it," and strengthened me. I also identified some things I needed to repent of, even though I thought they didn't matter; well, they did matter after all! Our spiritual health has a lot of impact in our body because of its obvious closeness. I hope it works for you... Continue praying, and ask the Lord to enable you through the Atonement to get out of it or receive strength to bear it. I wish you the best! You're in my prayers!

No thanks! The best discourse we can ever give to anyone is by the way we live our lives and our beliefs. I chose to follow certain things and my faith because I believe in them; I was given the gift of agency to choose for myself for my life, not others. I have to set an example, and live those things, in this case, be chaste, and live the law of chastity that means not only abstaining from physical contact when unmarried, but also in thoughts/clothing/speech/things I watch & listen that are not good/right (not in harmony with the standards & teachings of my beliefs), and are under my control. I feel we can explain our beliefs about chastity, answer them when they ask us about it, but I certainly cannot choose for them; I can't point fingers at anyone, judge them, especially if they do not claim to believe or have chosen NOT to live their lives according to them as well if they were a believer at some point. They have to come to that belief/understanding themselves, and choose to do them. I really like when King Benjamin said in his discourse to the members of the church: Mosiah 4 9 Believe in aGod; believe that he is, and that he bcreated all things, both in heaven and in earth; believe that he has all cwisdom, and all power, both in heaven and in earth; believe that man doth not dcomprehend all the things which the Lord can comprehend. 10 And again, believe that ye must arepent of your sins and forsake them, and humble yourselves before God; and ask in bsincerity of heart that he would cforgive you; and now, if you dbelieve all these things see that ye edo them. He basically says, be an example of a believer; he didn't say make sure others do the same. All that I can do is live according to that! Aodan, post#4, I echo the same things!

Gratitude is a divine principle: "'Thou shalt thank the Lord thy God in all things.' (D&C 59:7.) "This scripture means that we express thankfulness for what happens, not only for the good things in life but also for the opposition and challenges of life that add to our experience and faith. We put our lives in His hands, realizing that all that transpires will be for our experience. "When in prayer we say, 'Thy will be done,' we are really expressing faith and gratitude and acknowledging that we will accept whatever happens in our lives. "That we may feel true gratitude for the goodness of God for all the blessings that have been given to us and express those feelings of thankfulness in prayer to our Heavenly Father, is my prayer." Topic: gratitude (Robert D. Hales, "Gratitude for the Goodness of God," Ensign, May 1992, 65)