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    skippy740 got a reaction from a mustard seed in Bishop - Taking Away a Temple Recommend?   
    I'll share with you a situation from my youth.  I don't remember exactly what I did to provoke this, but my father punched me in the stomach.  I had a hard time breathing for a few minutes, but no lasting damage otherwise.  It certainly wasn't a regular occurrence, which is why it stuck out in my mind.
    My parents went to see the bishop, and the bishop took away BOTH of my parent's recommends - suggesting that my mother should've been able to stop it or something.  (Hey, I was in the 6th grade but I don't remember all the justifications at the time.)
    I suggest that a lack of church attendance won't warrant invalidating your recommend, but not living the gospel or following the commandments/standards as outlined in the temple recommend interview.  One of the recommend questions is about relations with your family - situations of abuse and things like that, so I'm sure that's the reason for taking their recommends.
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    skippy740 reacted to anatess2 in Hell has frozen over   
    Sugar, in the USA, is a whole lot more harmful than caffeine because it is on EVERYTHING.  Caffeine is not.  As a matter of fact, it is only on relatively very few items.
    Caffeine, like sugar, can be harmful, but when used properly, can be of benefit.  It's not absolutely useless like you state.  Acetaminophen/ibuprofen with caffeine is very effective for migraines.  Like I always say - be careful with extremist positions.  Especially in these kinds of discussions where it is completely unnecessary.

     
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    skippy740 got a reaction from Maureen in Hell has frozen over   
    "Nevertheless, thou mayest choose for thyself for it is given unto thee" comes to mind.
    I used to drink energy drinks, but haven't touched them for about 4 years now.  I used to be able to have 2 of the big Red Bulls at a time... but last time I had a small one, and it made me palpitate.  I don't dare touch them anymore - not because of doctrine, but because I can choose for myself.
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    skippy740 got a reaction from NightSG in Hell has frozen over   
    If J. Golden Kimball can say it... 
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    skippy740 reacted to Midwest LDS in Hell has frozen over   
    The primary point I want to make though, before I go to bed, is that the principal reason we obey the Word of Wisdom is not for health reasons. It's to demonstrate our obedience to God. I know the Word of Wisdom has health benefits, but the primary reason I don't partake of the forbidden items and try to eat healthily and exercise isn't for those benefits, it's to obey God. I know the Word of Wisdom wasn't always mandatory. It is now. If President Monson stands up on September 30 and tells me to stop using caffeine I will (although I would shed more than a few tears over my chocolate. I have a Coke now and then but I love chocolate☺).
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    skippy740 got a reaction from mordorbund in Hell has frozen over   
    I wonder if they'll add caffeinated drinks to the MTC?  The article didn't specify.
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    skippy740 got a reaction from mirkwood in Hell has frozen over   
    If J. Golden Kimball can say it... 
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    skippy740 got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in Hell has frozen over   
    If J. Golden Kimball can say it... 
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    skippy740 got a reaction from Midwest LDS in Hell has frozen over   
    "Nevertheless, thou mayest choose for thyself for it is given unto thee" comes to mind.
    I used to drink energy drinks, but haven't touched them for about 4 years now.  I used to be able to have 2 of the big Red Bulls at a time... but last time I had a small one, and it made me palpitate.  I don't dare touch them anymore - not because of doctrine, but because I can choose for myself.
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    skippy740 got a reaction from Midwest LDS in Hell has frozen over   
    If anything, the most abused substance in the church... is chocolate.
    But once you take that away... well, you can guess about the revolt that would be led by the Relief Society!  (That's just a joke people!) 
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    skippy740 reacted to Fether in Hell has frozen over   
    Haha xD
    but on a serious note:
    On my mission, the phrase "But I see assistants *insert questionable Activity one could do on a mission*" became an end all to missionaries seeking to bend the rules.
    A leader's sin does not permit my sin. 
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    skippy740 got a reaction from Midwest LDS in Hell has frozen over   
    If J. Golden Kimball can say it... 
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    skippy740 reacted to JoCa in a TEST is coming   
    Which is why the State should get out of marriage altogether.  The fact that the State is now enforcing homosexual unions and forcing children to be raised in homosexual homes is not libertarian . . .it's ugly, it's evil.  It is interfering with how someone else lives their life-it is interfering with the development of a child.
    And this same lie, is used to justify abortion.  Hey it's their life, what should I care that they are killing a child.
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    skippy740 reacted to JoCa in a TEST is coming   
    To get back to the point of this. You are asking for something that in general can't be proven (at least is very hard to prove).
    You see one of the keys that I have learned in life is that as much as people want to say in this new, improved "enlightened" age that facts and reason hold say.  The truth is they don't.
    Facts and reason don't mean jack. I could show you studies, I could deduce it logically but it doesn't matter. The only way you will come to believe it is and should be legally wrong is through emotion. 
    Because the truth is that people make up their mind based on emotional responses and then find the facts that fit their narrative. It is why propaganda works, it is why the very first thing the Left did with Homosexuals was to emotionalize the issue. Never mind the facts that statistically speaking homosexuals and those that engage in that behavior are at a higher risk for STDs are at a higher risk of AIDS are at a higher risk of suicide, mental depression, illness, etc. etc. etc. Never mind that statistically speaking homosexuals on average have hundreds of sexual partners in their lifetime, never mind that statistically speaking a homosexual union (either by dating or marriage) is more unstable (as in more likely to separate) than heterosexuals.  Never mind any of that at all.
    This issue is purely an emotional issue rather than a logical issue (and therefore one that can't be put on trial and therefore why what you are asking for is impossible to give you).  Why b/c for every study that says homosexuals are not "born that way", someone will say yeah but what about this case or what about this other case.  For every study about homosexual mental health problems or health problems, someone will say, yeah but look at my brother he is homosexual and it's not a problem for him.
    This issue is emotional (and cannot be proven logically) b/c look at how the issue came to it's current status.  It came about b/c purely by propaganda. TV shows in the mid-late 90s started pushing this idea that homosexuality is nothing more like a different hair color.  Look at these wonderful homosexuals-they don't show the actual perverse behaviors or the negatives, no they just simply say look being homosexual is not different than anything else.
    So I'm sad to say my friend, you've been totally brainwashed. I don't blame you or fault you.  Society in general has been brainwashed.  The speed with which homosexuality became accepted in modern society is absolutely astonishing-it took maybe 10 years to go from 65-70% against to 30-35% against.  That can only happen by brainwashing.  No new data came out, no new science came out . . .it was pure and absolute emotional brainwashing.
    My advice to you and to all is to unindoctrinate yourself:
    https://thembeforeus.com/marriage-married-parenthood-global-survey-gay-marriage-weakens-childrens-rights/
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-13/katy-faust-ask-bigot-daughter-of-lesbians-gay-marriage-lateline/6694258
    Another antidote as a society we have perverted a lot of God's laws.  As much as we might say that we receive judgement in the hereafter.  The vast, vast majority of commandments (and especially the big ones) were and are for the here and now.  They are God's laws b/c the consequences of disobeying them are quite drastic.  100 years ago sex out of wedlock would be pretty guaranteed to give a baby.  Homosexuals naturally died early and naturally didn't have any progenitors. 
    Through the miracle or modern technology we can mask much of the bad temporal consequences for disobeying God's laws . . . except that while we can mask them on an individual basis we can not mask them on a society basis.  It will cause the downfall of our society-sad to say but I believe I will see it in my lifetime.  You think it's bad now . . .just wait, it's gonna get a lot worse.   
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    skippy740 reacted to Traveler in a TEST is coming   
    As a side note to this discussion – it seems obvious to me that any laws enacted by any government are in essence one segment of the population in that government attempting to impose it morals on another segment of the population that for whatever reason does not have the same morals.  We do not pass laws to define the value of pi or the inversional gravitational constant.   What we do pass as laws are things we believe to be morally right that someone else thinks the opposite is okay – at least for them and their circumstance. 
    It is my opinion that if a government is not moral – it must follow that it laws are not just.  It also follows that if laws are moral – by definition those that oppose such laws are immoral. Thus I see that morality in laws is not what should be questioned – the question is – whose morals should dictate what is law?
     
    The Traveler  
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    skippy740 reacted to Rob Osborn in a TEST is coming   
    Paramount to the discussion is the use of the word "secular". When properly used to denote something secular it means that it lacks or is against a religious view. Secularism is a belief system based off of worldliness void of any God or spiritual influence. Its synonymous with being unsacred. Secular humanists are one the main driving bodies to promote a secularist run government where any influence of God, religion, or spirituality is forbidden. So when one speaks of our government being a secular government they are truly saying its a worldly unsacred government.
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    skippy740 got a reaction from MrShorty in a TEST is coming   
    Now, compare MY children's experience with their DIVORCED parents... to my father's and uncle's experience in foster care.
    They were molested.
    Compare my Ex-wife's mother's experience with HER father.
    She was molested.  And her father was prominent in the church way back in the day.  She still questions whether her baptism was "legit" or not.
    There is IDEAL (loving mother and father) and then there is what IS.  
    I believe that being with a same-sex couple can be superior to foster care and a sexually abusive father ANY day of the week.
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    skippy740 reacted to laronius in a TEST is coming   
    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
    - John Adams
    Once you take God and his set definition of morality out of the equation our entire legal foundation becomes the house built on sand. Relative morality means you have relative laws.
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    skippy740 got a reaction from laronius in a TEST is coming   
    "Pursuit of happiness" - to quote a phrase in the Declaration of Independence - which was substituted for the word 'property'.
    The Declaration of Independence may be a legal document in protest to King George, but does it have the force of law today?
    Per Wikipedia (Yeah I know):  "The Declaration of Independence does not have the force of law domestically, but nevertheless it may help to provide historical and legal clarity about the Constitution and other laws."
    Thank goodness that "Pursuit of happiness"... is not a legal defense.  I can see it now: "This person has a fancy car and I don't.  And it's my right in my pursuit of happiness that I should have that car, so I stole it."
     
    The problem today, is that the law has become corrupted with notions that everyone is "equal" under the law.  You cannot argue reason and morality against a corrupted law.  That's what you're all trying to do and it's not WORKING.  It's because the defense of morality has become a moot point in the law today.  You're arguing from the gospel perspective.  If it wasn't a gospel perspective, then it would be illegal for same-sex couples to have children.  That is not the case, therefore, the law is incomplete from a moral perspective for the protection of children.
    "Pursuit of happiness" has to only work within laws found in nature.  If you want a particular car, you can get it by working and labor.  If you want children, you can have them when you are aligned with natural law, marry someone of the opposite sex, and procreate.  Same sex couples cannot procreate - at least not without some kind of assistance.
    The law today is corrupted against nature - against God.  And unless you can find a LEGAL defense OUTSIDE of the gospel or other moral standard - such as PROOF of how the children of same-sex unions are damaged... you will have no defense against our corrupted legal system.
    Just because I agree MORALLY and within the GOSPEL does not mean that our legal system will also take that view.
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    skippy740 got a reaction from JoCa in a TEST is coming   
    When you use an 'absolute', it's far easier to claim that "you win".  You said ZERO chance.  I simply gave an alternative scenario.  :-)
    This has been fun.
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    skippy740 reacted to Grunt in LDSLiving: One Gay Man's Powerful Journey Away From the Church and Back Again   
    I think it depends on the circumstances and situation.  I would want to be inclusive, but not enabling.
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    skippy740 reacted to anatess2 in a TEST is coming   
    The day you will understand your dangerous position of governance is the day Sharia Law becomes the law of the land.  You are lucky that you live in a democratic country where your system of morality is still the majority.  The way it is going, it won't be for too long.  You can shout on the rooftops as much as you like that your idea of what is moral is right and true.  In a free country, nobody has to believe you.  And they still get a vote.
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    skippy740 got a reaction from JoCa in Looking for advice, not judgement   
    Don't change!  Being a Challenger is what is needed most in this world - in all settings.
    About a year ago, I came across this article in the Harvard Business Review regarding selling, but it can apply in many areas:
    https://hbr.org/2011/09/selling-is-not-about-relatio
    I identify as a "challenger".  As long as you are adding new information and not "just" putting others down, you help people most by serving them, not 'pleasing' them - or telling them just what they want to hear.
    Challengers teach their customers.  Challengers tailor their message to the individual.  Challengers take control on the interaction.  Challengers dominate the world of complex "solution selling" (or providing advice) - meaning that they provide clarity where others just want to be pleased.  
    People pleasers, because they want to please and AVOID confrontation, end up at "wimp junction" where they surrender what they know might be best... to pleasing the other person.
    There's more on this, but being bold and assertive (and perhaps blunt) does not mean that you are mean.  In fact, you have MORE compassion because you care more about serving than pleasing.
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    skippy740 reacted to Midwest LDS in LDSLiving: One Gay Man's Powerful Journey Away From the Church and Back Again   
    I appreciated the article, as I have many of the similar ones posted here recently, because it shows that you can repent of serious sins even when you have been entrenched in their practice for a very long time. While I appreciate the message on familial love and the efforts the Christofferson family went too, to love their wayward son, the true beauty for me was when he rejected everything to come back into the gospel of Jesus Christ. He rejected the World's teachings and the feelings of his partner and decades of poor personal decisions to become clean again through Christ's Atonement. I feel like the Church is demonstrating that you can reject even the most insidious of inner desires, in an effort to reach out to people who may have considered themselves lost long ago due to their participation in homosexual activity. While I may quibble with some of the words Brother Christofferson used to describe his journey, I feel as the father of the prodigal son when he told the faithful brother in Luke 15:32 "It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found." Brother Christofferson was dead but now is alive again and found and to me that is reason to celebrate.
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    skippy740 got a reaction from JoCa in Looking for advice, not judgement   
    Since this is a thread by and for an individual, I'll only state that we can only help the individual who is LOOKING for help and guidance.  You can't teach a society, but we can work with individuals one-on-one, one-by-one.