Ogre, I agree with you but that still doesnt help me :) Oh by the way, I asked my wife and it's going on 3 years since that happened not 1 1/2. I personally think that after all that time, and if he is doing everything he is suppose to, then she needs to start to really forgive him. She also needs to start to change because now she is the one that is limiting the progress of the family. But i cant tell her that because she will think i am siding with him.