Vort

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    Vort got a reaction from MrShorty in LDSGator 1:1-2   
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    Vort got a reaction from Still_Small_Voice in Relief Society Presidencies no longer sit with Bishopric   
    Good for you, though I'm very sorry for the tragic route you've taken. Ftr, I'm talking about the parents who smile benignly as their little children run screaming through the aisles.
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    Vort got a reaction from Traveler in Relief Society Presidencies no longer sit with Bishopric   
    Good for you, though I'm very sorry for the tragic route you've taken. Ftr, I'm talking about the parents who smile benignly as their little children run screaming through the aisles.
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    Vort reacted to Ironhold in Relief Society Presidencies no longer sit with Bishopric   
    Contrary to what a lot of "progressive" individuals wish to believe, a lot of people who identify as "conservative" do so because they believe that old and new need to be tested against each other in order to determine the best way forward, and that rejecting one or the other wholesale will only lead to misery. 
    To put it bluntly, a lot of the problems we're seeing in society these days are a result of people rejecting the old norms, traditions, and standards wholesale, only to discover the hard way why things were done a certain way for so long. This includes the realization that rejecting older institutions without providing something that can replace what these institutions offered in the way of structure and guidance was a bad idea. 
    It's tragic that your own family is seeing this for itself.
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    Vort reacted to classylady in Relief Society Presidencies no longer sit with Bishopric   
    In my younger years as a parent, I remember thinking “why can’t those parents keep their children quiet, or keep them in their seats during Sacrament meeting? My children are able to sit still and be quiet.” I was definitely being judgmental. Then, when my daughter died in a car accident, her two-month old son survived but with a brain injury, (I wonder if it contributed to him being on the autism spectrum?), we pretty much raised him. We would be sitting in Sacrament meeting, and he would suddenly get up and dart up onto the stand. He was a handful. I simply wasn’t prepared as a parent, even though I had raised 7 other children before him, to know how to deal with his behavior, or how to discipline or incentivize him to behave. He’s 20 now, and I still flounder with knowing how to help him flourish. He’s very high functioning, brilliant in areas of language skills, but has an eating disorder and other quirks. I feel like I have failed him as a parent. Anyhow, I’m a little more understanding of children who misbehave. Though, I do admit I find it hard to condone parents who blatantly just sit there and let their children be disruptive. 
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    Vort got a reaction from mirkwood in Relief Society Presidencies no longer sit with Bishopric   
    Yes, but parents be parents, and parents should discipline their children.
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    Vort reacted to zil2 in Relief Society Presidencies no longer sit with Bishopric   
    I've never seen such a thing.  What I have seen:
    Members of the Stake Presidency sitting with the bishopric The Stake High Councillor assigned to the ward sitting with the bishopric A member of the EQP sitting with the lone bishopric member in attendance That's it.  Anyone else on the stand is over where the speakers sit, and they're speaking or otherwise participating (or sometimes another person from the Stake High Council there to present stake callings).
    I wonder if some wards have been having the RSP sitting on the stand and Church HQ got wind and told them to stop.
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    Vort got a reaction from mirkwood in Relief Society Presidencies no longer sit with Bishopric   
    If they were my daughters or perhaps my sisters who were involved in such shenanigans, I would probably feel great sorrow. As it is, I think it's wonderful that such wolves are removing their sheepskins so that we can more easily detect them.
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    Vort got a reaction from SilentOne in Enos 1:3-8   
    Notice that the answer to "How is it done?" is not a lesson in the details of divine spiritual mechanics. Nothing like "if one who is innocent willingly accepts the natural consequence of blah blah blah" here, just an immediate reference to the blood of Christ—literally, HOW one accesses forgiveness. Like someone asking, "How do I get to the 104th floor of this skyscraper?", and the respondent not launching into a lecture about stairs and incremental rises against gravity or counterweights and electric motors, but rather just pointing the guy toward the elevator door.
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    Vort got a reaction from Still_Small_Voice in Gold Spot   
    They quit making any more of it.
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    Vort got a reaction from lonetree in Kirtland Temple!   
    I find this unlikely for several reasons:
    The Bible is perhaps our strongest contact with "traditional" Christianity, a commonality we would be loathe to lose. The JST was never proclaimed as complete. On the contrary, it's a sporadic mishmash of retranslation, interpretation, and doctrinal additions and changes. I think it would not be especially useful as the Bible is used today to try to use the JST as a regular Bible version. The Church has used a non-JST Bible throughout its history. That's what people know. You don't easily just give that up. (This is sort of an extension of the first bullet.) Saints have often complained about the shortcomings and difficulties inherent in using the KJV. The JST preserves all those perceived shortcomings and adds others. Whatever insights Biblical scholarship might add (e.g. the Dead Sea scrolls) would largely be mitigated by a slavish adherence to the JST. (Bonus point: The existence of the JST itself argues against "slavish adherence".)
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    Vort reacted to NeuroTypical in Is this forum dying?   
    Heh - well, you can't please everyone I guess.  At the risk of going full-blown passive-aggressive, would you say your post here is an example of a sad ego driven persona, or a counter balance to an unhappy/unfulfilled life?
    From where I'm standing, it's not the heaviness of the subject that's an issue.  The only thing that gets threads locked is an abundance of folks abusing the site rules, usually #1-3.
    LM (head toxic windbag)
     
     
     
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    Vort got a reaction from lonetree in Jesus being mean   
    No, he was not, not in any sense in which that word is used in American political discourse today.
    That is not a feature of today's American liberalism, unless you're saying that Jesus would call for the freedom to destroy your unborn baby if you feel it might inconvenience you. Pretty sure you're not saying that.
    Certainly not any sort of feature in modern American "liberalism".
    This is simply false. We as Latter-day Saints are familiar with this general idea. It's an application of the law of consecration; early latter-day efforts were generally called "united orders", were entered into only by covenant, were always voluntary, could be left at any time, and were administered in all cases by leaders called of God and not by agents of profane governments. To compare such small, private, religiously motivated efforts to "a type of socialism" is way beyond the mark.
    I think it's worth noting that even with divine guidance, the early covenant Saints failed to get those societies to work as they were intended, until the effort was ultimately abandoned.
    As he has always done. Note that he did not call for Rome to care for the sick or for the nominal Jewish king Herod "to feed the poor and care for the sick so that none would be hungry and all would have basic necessities." Jesus' call to action was an individual charge, to be fulfilled individually and not to be abrogated to a government (profane or otherwise) to enforce such feeding and caring.
    I think you overstate, or simply misstate. Please outline which of "the more conservative ideals of the time...were alarmingly closely aligned with many of the [conservative] ideas of today."
    This is not even slightly true unless you intend the word "liberal" in almost the opposite sense to which it is normally used in America today.
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    Vort reacted to The Folk Prophet in Super lame, boring thread where nothing bad or interesting is going on and that mods would really hate because it's stupid   
    Oh...I have no current complaints. I only claim RIGHT to be able to complain....hashtag ...#allModsAreBulliesWithBadges!
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    Vort got a reaction from NeuroTypical in Super lame, boring thread where nothing bad or interesting is going on and that mods would really hate because it's stupid   
    That should take care of the mods. Okay, @The Folk Prophet, let's hear your mod complaints.
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    Vort got a reaction from zil2 in Enos 1:3-8   
    Notice that the answer to "How is it done?" is not a lesson in the details of divine spiritual mechanics. Nothing like "if one who is innocent willingly accepts the natural consequence of blah blah blah" here, just an immediate reference to the blood of Christ—literally, HOW one accesses forgiveness. Like someone asking, "How do I get to the 104th floor of this skyscraper?", and the respondent not launching into a lecture about stairs and incremental rises against gravity or counterweights and electric motors, but rather just pointing the guy toward the elevator door.
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    Vort got a reaction from SilentOne in Super lame, boring thread where nothing bad or interesting is going on and that mods would really hate because it's stupid   
    That should take care of the mods. Okay, @The Folk Prophet, let's hear your mod complaints.
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    Vort reacted to Jamie123 in Iechyd Da   
    Happy St. David's Day!
    The daddodils are coming into bloom too!
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    Vort got a reaction from zil2 in Super lame, boring thread where nothing bad or interesting is going on and that mods would really hate because it's stupid   
    That should take care of the mods. Okay, @The Folk Prophet, let's hear your mod complaints.
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    Vort reacted to NeuroTypical in SpaceX did it.   
    Amazing.  Whenever I need to feel a little hope for the human race, I go look at what SpaceX's latest milestone.
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    Vort got a reaction from askandanswer in Jamie's forum reading habits   
    Looks like @Jamie123 only reads General Discussion. We should go to the other forums and talk about him. He'll never know.
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    Vort reacted to Emmanuel Goldstein in SpaceX did it.   
    They successfully launched the Super Heavy vehicle to orbital speeds this morning. This is the largest object ever launched by humanity. History was made on SpaceX's 22 birthday, and it is pie day. Well done Elon.
    https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-third-test-flight-launch
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    Vort got a reaction from LDSGator in Owl masks   
    So @Jamie123's wearing an owl mask these days. Anyone want to mock him for it? Maybe we could get some owl pellets if we ask nicely.
    I'd wear a bunny mask, but I'm afraid of raptors.