Connie

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    Connie got a reaction from Still_Small_Voice in Hymn Singing   
    Could it be that is when the chorister cuts them off? Or maybe it's because the congregation cuts off early and they feel silly holding it out so much longer when no one is singing anymore.

    I've been playing the organ (badly) for over 20 years, so maybe it's easier for me to have charity towards those pianists who are the vast majority of organists these days and who are actually willing to try (there are many who aren't willing). The organ is very different than the piano. There are a lot more fingering strategies one has to learn because of the lack of a sustain pedal. It makes sense to me when an organist (who is really a pianist) has to play a song slower than it calls for, though unfortunately I do still find it annoying. I try to play the hymns at speed, but there are definitely those that I still struggle with. Plus there are other considerations such as following a chorister, which an organist is supposed to do. A lot of choristers aren't musically trained and are just doing the best they can. They can be difficult to follow.

    Might I suggest walking up to your ward organist and/or chorister some Sunday and thanking them for their willingness to serve. It's a mighty rare occurrence and may just make their day.
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    Connie reacted to zil2 in Hymn Singing   
    Chorister: The person to whom no one pays any attention but without whom no one will sing.
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    Connie got a reaction from Vort in Hymn Singing   
    Could it be that is when the chorister cuts them off? Or maybe it's because the congregation cuts off early and they feel silly holding it out so much longer when no one is singing anymore.

    I've been playing the organ (badly) for over 20 years, so maybe it's easier for me to have charity towards those pianists who are the vast majority of organists these days and who are actually willing to try (there are many who aren't willing). The organ is very different than the piano. There are a lot more fingering strategies one has to learn because of the lack of a sustain pedal. It makes sense to me when an organist (who is really a pianist) has to play a song slower than it calls for, though unfortunately I do still find it annoying. I try to play the hymns at speed, but there are definitely those that I still struggle with. Plus there are other considerations such as following a chorister, which an organist is supposed to do. A lot of choristers aren't musically trained and are just doing the best they can. They can be difficult to follow.

    Might I suggest walking up to your ward organist and/or chorister some Sunday and thanking them for their willingness to serve. It's a mighty rare occurrence and may just make their day.
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    Connie got a reaction from zil2 in Hymn Singing   
    Could it be that is when the chorister cuts them off? Or maybe it's because the congregation cuts off early and they feel silly holding it out so much longer when no one is singing anymore.

    I've been playing the organ (badly) for over 20 years, so maybe it's easier for me to have charity towards those pianists who are the vast majority of organists these days and who are actually willing to try (there are many who aren't willing). The organ is very different than the piano. There are a lot more fingering strategies one has to learn because of the lack of a sustain pedal. It makes sense to me when an organist (who is really a pianist) has to play a song slower than it calls for, though unfortunately I do still find it annoying. I try to play the hymns at speed, but there are definitely those that I still struggle with. Plus there are other considerations such as following a chorister, which an organist is supposed to do. A lot of choristers aren't musically trained and are just doing the best they can. They can be difficult to follow.

    Might I suggest walking up to your ward organist and/or chorister some Sunday and thanking them for their willingness to serve. It's a mighty rare occurrence and may just make their day.
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    Connie got a reaction from The Folk Prophet in Survey about censorship on social media   
    I am still collecting responses to my survey for the next few weeks if anyone else wants to take it.
    @The Folk Prophet Though I wouldn't call myself GREAT, I would totally sing for you.
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    Connie got a reaction from NeuroTypical in Survey about censorship on social media   
    Thank you to everyone who has shared their thoughts. I've already done a lot of research on the topic and understand that this is a complex, nuanced issue. Your comments have helped me to decide where to go next in my research.
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    Connie reacted to Traveler in Survey about censorship on social media   
    Since @The Folk Prophet  is both an expert and more current, his insights are closer to reality than mine.  I see the internet being compared to a lot of other things (like a public square) but the reality is the internet is not like anything we have previously encountered in our world’s history.   I believe that the internet needs to be redesigned with some semblance of responsible security with open spaces.  I would make some comparison of the internet to medieval times where castle fortresses exist throughout the open countryside.  The castle fortresses are protected with firewalls and if anything of value is to be protected – the only hope is to secure it behind the firewall in the castle fortress.  The problem is that any crack in your firewall allowing even the smallest of bug to pass through leaves everything in your fortress vulnerable.   Most of us want the freedom of the open countryside and the security of a fortress.
    The internet shrinks the entire world and puts it just outside your front door.  Simply opening your front door allows not just whatever is out there that you opened the door for; but anything and everything lurking out there, inside.  And like I already said, you do not even need to open your door for various things and characters to find ways to sneak in.  Any protections are meaningless if you have a child in your fortress with access to any doors or windows.  The very sorry truth is that your children are vulnerable to predators regardless of what you do to protect them from the internet.  In fact, severing all internet connections in your life thinking that will protect your children can, in reality, leave them worse unprepared and vulnerable when they become older and discover their own access.
    When I was growing up – children were not allowed into adult places.  Now children have access to anything and everything that adults have access to.  Children are not allowed their innocence.   Neither are any other innocence or vulnerable protected – predators make sure only the fittest survive.
    As we discuss censorship on social media on this thread – we have difficulty trying to determine what is needed for responsible adults to be able to openly discuss our opinions.  Even with all the rules of this forum we have difficulties maintaining decorum.   I think myself responsible and I have been censored a number of times on this forum – though not so much of late.  I have learned to, in essence, censor myself and do so to maintain a friendly decorum because I honestly like and care for those that post here and I believe this forum helps and provides outlets.  I am not good at filters and like to challenge others – I am most grateful for posters here – especially posters like @prisonchaplain that are expert at filters and different opinions.  Not recently – but I have attempted to post on Evangelical sites and have not lasted even a week.
     
    The Traveler
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    Connie reacted to The Folk Prophet in Survey about censorship on social media   
    Disagree. (Putting aside that I'm not "professional" when it comes to music (I only wish I was)), I despise certain forms of art as a matter of taste. Some of those forms are art are very beloved by an awful lot of people. Me having the view that Taylor Swift is incredibly overrated, or that no one should have been interested in the Barbie movie isn't meaningful. It's just my personal opinions. And if I think your singing voice is terrible but a billion people love it and pay to hear it then what's the point being theoretically "qualified" for that view? 
    Also....not really true. An awful lot of people listen to an awful lot of other people on their views about abortion, tax policy and religion. I mean all I do all day while I work is listen to people talking about that stuff. Yes, it sometimes has more to do with confirmation bias and entertainment than it does respect for the individuals or trusting them as qualified in any way. But either way, it's not accurate to say that no one cares about other people's opinions.
    I think, in fact, that this very forum proves that idea wrong. If no one cared about anyone else's opinions then what are any of us doing here? At least I would hope we'd have some level of interest in what others have to say on any given matter rather than just being 100% narcissistic. I know I'm one to talk more than listen, and maybe a bigger offender in that regard than many...and yet I STILL care about other's views and want to hear what others think on various matters.
    And...even more important..... I almost care MORE about their opinions if I don't agree with them. Disagreeing with others views is not the same as not caring about those views.
    I mean the very idea that someone is pro abortion and the other is anti abortion means they don't care about each others opinion.... well that would just solve all the problems. But we DEEPLY care about those issues. And the more people who are into baby slaughter, high taxes, and anti-religion, the more I worry about the world, and the more I actually do care about their opinions.  Because their opinions, when they gain enough popularity and power, effect the world.
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    Connie reacted to The Folk Prophet in Survey about censorship on social media   
    What's the point of a freaking survey then?  
    That being said... I'm not sure it's really a matter of opinion (though it gets pretty blurred, obviously). So perhaps that word was poorly chosen.
    The fact is that I have had several people I know censored on social media. That's not my opinion. And I have not been censored on social media, but I have self censored out of fear. That's not my opinion either. It might be my opinion that social media tends to censor conservative views more...but that's because I'm not armed with the data to prove it more than an opinion. I suspect that opinion is correct...but yeah...that one's just my opinion....
    And finally... that no one cares....that's not true. Some people care very much about the opinions of random strangers. They probably all shouldn't. But to suggest that no one cares is factually inaccurate. A LOT of people care way more than they should. And some people care and SHOULD care. For example, businesses should definitely care about the collective opinions of their customers. Obviously a single opinion shouldn't be their concern. But that's the point of surveys and the like. If the consensus of opinions is that your product, service, or elsewise sucks, then they very well should care. And some companies actually do.
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    Connie reacted to NeuroTypical in Survey about censorship on social media   
    I believe the notion of the "public square", which extended to telephones many decades ago, have also extended to social media.   There should be legal protections in place for social media platforms that wish to be public forums.  You don't arrest the phone company people when two people plan a bank heist over the phone.  You shouldn't fine the facebook people if someone cyberbullies a teen.   Sure, both phone company and facebook should make records public in various ways, both because of warrants, and just plain old making public stuff public and searchable.
    The spirit and the letter of the 1st amendment is pretty clear: Zero laws abridging freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble.  The FBI using Facebook to influence the 2020 election was a gross injustice, and people should be held accountable.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/mark-zuckerberg-and-hunter-bidens-laptop-joe-rogan-russian-disinformation-fbi-11661544602
     
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    Connie got a reaction from LDSGator in Survey about censorship on social media   
    Hello, forum friends. I’m popping in because I need your help. I am continuing my education and taking a writing class this term. My big assignment is to write an argumentative essay, and my chosen topic is censorship on social media.
    I wanted to collect some opinions and experiences of regular social media users, so I created a short survey. If you have a minute or two to spare, I would appreciate if you’d take the survey. I am particularly interested in users of Facebook, Twitter (X, if you prefer), and YouTube, but any social media is fine. At this time, I am not counting forums in my definition of social media. If you or anyone you know has experienced censorship on social media, I would be particularly interested in how you would answer these survey questions. Feel free to share the link to this survey with others. Answers remain anonymous.
    Let me know if you have any questions. I would also appreciate any feedback you have on my survey questions or about the topic in general.
    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd6XHvPqW_0UuZrGj0LoKXDZQSWdN7vPpAAfdBSDt5SbMHDhQ/viewform?usp=sf_link 
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    Connie reacted to Traveler in Survey about censorship on social media   
    My opinion.  For the most part internet sites ought to be able to control their content.  I believe this to be part of the first amendment (free speech).  I do not believe that the government or governments officials have the right to influence (obstruct free speech) what is posted on internet sites – unless the information violets the law.  I do recognize that this can be somewhat ambiguous, but I also believe that government officials ought to be subject to the law themselves and if they violate free speech that it is grounds for impeachment.   This includes those officials that knew of violations and allowed it. 
    I believe the most critical government agency is the Justice Department.  Congress should have the power to impeach the officials within the Justice Department that misrepresent or withhold information related to influence of free speech on internet platforms.
    I also believe that personal information in individuals using the internet should be turned over to government officials when information on the internet indicates that the law was broken.  This would include elected officials that leak classified or misleading (partial) information to the press.  Of course, all accused individuals have the right to open public trials.
     
    The Traveler
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    Connie reacted to The Folk Prophet in Survey about censorship on social media   
    I gotchya. So the fact that I answered that I've never been censored (yet), but only self-censor will probably be interpreted as my opinion doesn't count. Yeah.
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    Connie reacted to NeuroTypical in Survey about censorship on social media   
    I found one question impossible to answer.  "Which worldviews do you think social media sites favor?"  There are at least hundreds of social media sites, and you can easily find several that favor any particular worldview.  Plus, even with the large sites like Facebook and Twitter and TikTok, you can find endless, endless spaces that favor one or the other, or neither.  For every TruthSocial, there's a Mastodon.  For every Rumble, a Reddit.  For every Parler, a Bluesky.  DeviantArt.  Threads.  Bookwyrm.  Funkwhale.  Mobizillion.  Snapchat.  Many of these don't really have any political bend in either direction.  And most of them have some sort of banning and censorship process.
    Also, there are endless people out there who do not paint the world into "conservative" or "liberal" political views, and who would disagree that political opinions = worldview.  There are progressives and hard right and centrist and humanist and universalist and environmentalist and anachro-syndicalist and endless words people apply to themselves that fit more than plain old conservative or liberal. 
    So I left that question blank, and answered the rest.
    Perhaps one input: Our very own Thirdhour has this as site rule #1:
    We absolutely censor stories, information, and opinions we don't want here.  We are social media, but we are not a free speech platform. 
    Mormondialogue.org, on the other hand, welcomes debate and arguing.  Their site rules are more along the lines of "We don't care what your opinion is, just be civil."  
     
    Good luck with your writing assignment! 
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    Connie reacted to Carborendum in Survey about censorship on social media   
    The point I was making was last sentence of my previous post. 
    They lure you in with one question, then they draw a pre-designed conclusion.  And they NEVER ASK the respondents the important question about "how do you know?"  They simply pose that question when criticizing the responses.  They don't dare actually allow a response to the question.  That would destroy the narrative.
    NOTE: I'm not accusing Connie of such subterfuge.  But surveys like this are used specifically to make such points and paint respondents in a bad light.
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    Connie reacted to The Folk Prophet in Survey about censorship on social media   
    Because of friends and family we all know who don't self-censor and report it when they are.
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    Connie reacted to Carborendum in Survey about censorship on social media   
    This is a double-edged sword.
    The likely takeaway from such would be,"If you've never experienced it yourself, how can you know if it happens?"
    With so many people who simply self-censor, realizing they would be cancelled if they didn't do so, we're left with acknowledging the famous people who were cancelled.  But the survey doesn't ask about that.
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    Connie reacted to NeuroTypical in Survey about censorship on social media   
    Ah yes - that time Facebook gave me an account ding for sharing a New York Post article about how the head of BLM was buying multiple homes.
     

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    Connie reacted to LDSGator in Survey about censorship on social media   
    I do think social media censors people but a lot of it has to do with the posters terrible attitude and communication abilities more than FB hating conservatives/liberals. 
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    Connie reacted to LDSGator in Survey about censorship on social media   
    I enjoyed the survey.
     
    I practice self censorship but it’s more in regards to my sense of humor than politics. I like dark and gallows humor (everyone says they do until they meet someone who uses….dark humor) and if it was up to me I’d post some very grim jokes. But not everyone will get it so I just skip it to avoid a headache. 
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    Connie got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in Survey about censorship on social media   
    Hello, forum friends. I’m popping in because I need your help. I am continuing my education and taking a writing class this term. My big assignment is to write an argumentative essay, and my chosen topic is censorship on social media.
    I wanted to collect some opinions and experiences of regular social media users, so I created a short survey. If you have a minute or two to spare, I would appreciate if you’d take the survey. I am particularly interested in users of Facebook, Twitter (X, if you prefer), and YouTube, but any social media is fine. At this time, I am not counting forums in my definition of social media. If you or anyone you know has experienced censorship on social media, I would be particularly interested in how you would answer these survey questions. Feel free to share the link to this survey with others. Answers remain anonymous.
    Let me know if you have any questions. I would also appreciate any feedback you have on my survey questions or about the topic in general.
    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd6XHvPqW_0UuZrGj0LoKXDZQSWdN7vPpAAfdBSDt5SbMHDhQ/viewform?usp=sf_link 
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    Connie got a reaction from NeuroTypical in Survey about censorship on social media   
    Hello, forum friends. I’m popping in because I need your help. I am continuing my education and taking a writing class this term. My big assignment is to write an argumentative essay, and my chosen topic is censorship on social media.
    I wanted to collect some opinions and experiences of regular social media users, so I created a short survey. If you have a minute or two to spare, I would appreciate if you’d take the survey. I am particularly interested in users of Facebook, Twitter (X, if you prefer), and YouTube, but any social media is fine. At this time, I am not counting forums in my definition of social media. If you or anyone you know has experienced censorship on social media, I would be particularly interested in how you would answer these survey questions. Feel free to share the link to this survey with others. Answers remain anonymous.
    Let me know if you have any questions. I would also appreciate any feedback you have on my survey questions or about the topic in general.
    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd6XHvPqW_0UuZrGj0LoKXDZQSWdN7vPpAAfdBSDt5SbMHDhQ/viewform?usp=sf_link 
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    Connie reacted to mirkwood in Survey about censorship on social media   
    I answered and yes I have been censored.
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    Connie reacted to Vort in Survey about censorship on social media   
    Hi, Connie! You are remembered fondly here. Hope you come back some time. Good luck, in any case.
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    Connie got a reaction from Vort in Book of Mormon Trivia   
    It was specifically prophesied by Abinadi (Mosiah 12: 2-8). They had to be brought into bondage to fulfill the prophesy (see D&C 29:10).