Maureen

What a weird statement. Should I assume this is your attempt at sarcasm? You do realize by reading the posts on this thread that there are many posters who are actually judging this author as being rebellious. M.

Do you believe then that all women who wear pants to church or all men that don't wear a white shirt and tie to church are rebelling? And if you don't why not? You think the author is rebelling because she wrote an article about wearing pants to church but for those who don't come right out and say they are rebelling with their clothing choice how can you determine who is rebelling and who is just wearing certain clothes because that is their choice? M.

And that's the sad part because she wasn't. It's some of the readers of this article that are assuming her clothing choice was making this ridiculous statement. M.

Your list is still very superficial because you forgot to include the two greatest commandments. Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. (Matthew 22:36-40) M.

The difference is your Church has a prohibition on alcohol, especially when it comes to a temple recommend. Your Church does not have a prohibition on women wearing pants/slacks to Church. What kind of TR question is asked in regards to clothing worn to church? M.

Really, so in other words YOU do see the elect as robotic. And if you do not then please define to me what "the elect" really are. M.

But the whole point in writing the article is to show that even in the 21st century a lot of Latter-day Saints are still skeptical about a woman's intentions when they see her wearing pants/slacks to Church. They say they don't care but as soon as they see a woman wearing pants they automatically think she's being rebellious. M.

I think you've described Mary Poppins (practically perfect in every way). But seriouly, your list sounds like you are describing a robot. I'm not clear on the Latter-day Saint's definition of elect of God but to me it doesn't seem this elect has a heart or soul. Does this elect cry or laugh or fall ill or even require help or friendship themselves. Your list of do's and don'ts seems superficial, there's no humanity or love behind either. M.

I was introduced to your Church because of these dances. And it wasn't because of standards and supervision, it was because they were fun and the kids that attended them were fun. Although I did like that etiquette of the boys asking the girls to dance holding out their arms. And back in the '70s, the music was fun and jiving was still a big thing at Church dances. And then there were the after dance socializing at Boston Pizza or *A&W, or someone would have the brilliant idea to TP someone's house. Good times. *Not sure if some are familiar with A&W back in the '70s, but it was a fast food place with Papa, Mama, Teen and Baby burgers and root beer. You order in your car and the food is brought out to you with the tray of food attached to the driver's door window. And the popular beverages at the time were called brown cow (milk and root beer) or swamp water (all the flavours of pop mixed together except for coke or pepsi because they were not allowed 😊). Now a days A&W is no longer set up that way. ☹ M.

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/08/05/world-thinks-americas-gun-laws-are-crazy-theyre-right/?outputType=amp I would not be surprised if Latter-day Saints of other countries are baffled by American Latter-day Saints obsession with firearms. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mormon-church-no-guns-church-n1046581 M.

You think that if a person's life slows down as they get older that means they are a nut job. She is after all 83 years old. M.

The person that asked Emma the questions in the interview was her son, Joseph Smith III. M.

But with seatbelts, there's a chance that you are the one who is responsible for causing the collision that required those seatbelts; or the one who caused the fire, that requires the extinguisher. Your reason for choosing to carry a firearm doesn't have the same equivalency as requiring seatbelts or fire extinguishers. M.

@Anddenex, I was only responding to your "And?". I took it that you were not understanding what @dprhwas conveying. So I added my understanding of what I thought was conveyed. And as typical of @Vort, he likes to over react. M.

I don't need to be a member of your Church to notice cultural views. All I have to do is read this thread to know that many of the men here see the author of this article as being rebellious for just writing the article. If you think I have hateful attitudes on this forum, then quote one of my posts that reveal these hateful attitudes. M.

Well for good reason, because @Suzie did not suggest that the Church use dress as a litmus test. M.

You seem to be insinuating that because this woman is uncomforable with her temple experience that must mean she must be an anti-mormon. Does that mean you don't think a faithful member can struggle with their temple experience? M.

Neither AllEnlisted or the author of this article are using clothing as a litmus test for anything. They are just wondering why this "culture" of "the only correct appearance" that is accepted in church is dresses for women and white shirts and ties for men. What could possibly be the reason that this kind of clothing is only accepted culturally when it's not even a rule via policy or commandment? The reason why it's accepted culturally is because members for many decades have measured their worthiness and other members' worthiness by what they wear to church. M.

Apparently they do not. "Pants" to an English person means "underwear", while "Pants" to an American is synonymous with "slacks". M.

Since I don't know if this woman must consider her temple covenants "carved in stone", so to speak; but maybe she can take comfort that going forward these changes will help others have a more positive temple experience. M.

I thought all that changed at the beginning of this year. When was this person's last visit to the temple? If it hasn't been this year, maybe she should go for a visit. https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2019/01/02/lds-church-releases/ M.

All good thoughts, but the last one is my favourite. M.

I received a non-answer. But at least it's something for you to think about. M.

Why not? It's just a simple question. M.

And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted. (Luke 18:9-14) @Grunt, how do you see yourself, as the Pharisee or the publican? M.