Wingnut

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    Wingnut got a reaction from EQP in General Conference talk on EQ moves   
    Elder Oaks' overview of the worldwide training broadcast: Overview of the New Handbooks
    (emphasis mine)
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    Wingnut got a reaction from edakanari in When is it appropriate to remove your garments?   
    Men who wear shirts with the top button undone show their garments all the time and people see them.
    It's not a question, but rather a discussion. Compared to many other discussions on the topic that we've had on this board in the past, this one has been extremely respectful.
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    Wingnut got a reaction from SilverPhoenix333 in Is there a right way and a wrong way to spell bear a testimony?   
    Man, where's the "peed my pants" button when you need it?
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    Wingnut got a reaction from Sunday21 in Coffee in Baking?   
    I've had bishops whose favorite kind of ice cream was coffee flavored. I think it's a personal decision. The Word of Wisdom doesn't say "Thou shalt not drinks hot beverages, or eat anything that contains the beans from which they are made." If you feel okay with it, that's fine. If you're questioning it or not sure, perhaps that in and of itself is your answer.
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    Wingnut got a reaction from NightSG in Michigan Hospital Incident with a 17 year old daughter and a Mom   
    Sounds to me like the mom is pretty uptight.  Her daughter is 17, and Mom is completely deluded if she thinks that the daughter isn't getting information about sex and drugs from anyone but her.  Laws like this make people who have nothing to hide, completely uncomfortable, but they are absolutely necessary.
     
    A doctor who offers a 13-year-old girl birth control isn't encouraging her to have sex.  He's assuming that that she already is having sex, or is likely to do so soon, which is, like it or not, accurate.  He's helping prevent her becoming a teen mom, which is a responsible thing for him to do.  Same thing with a boy and condoms.
     
    Children who are abused by their parents aren't going to accuse the parents while in the same room.  Many won't accuse the parents even in a safe space, largely because such a thing doesn't exist in their minds.  Parents who abuse their children are also the least likely to permit those children to be in a room alone with an authority figure who could do something about.
     
    If I have nothing to hide, I have nothing to hide.  So why am I going to get upset about it?
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    Wingnut got a reaction from kapikui in Adultery preferable to pornography?   
    Thanks for looking that up. I don't recall the talk, but if it's from a CES broadcast, that would be why, since I haven't really attended them since I got married.
    I disagree with Sister Beck's assessment, however. A man's choice is his choice, and if a man chooses to make a habit of viewing pornography, it does not make his wife unrighteous if she chooses to stay with him.
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    Wingnut got a reaction from Saint Peter in counsel vs. commandment   
    I would say they are much more commandment than mere counsel.
    Why are "wise counsel" and "optional" mutually exclusive terms?
    Here's some food for thought:
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    Wingnut got a reaction from puf_the_majic_dragon in counsel vs. commandment   
    I would say they are much more commandment than mere counsel.
    Why are "wise counsel" and "optional" mutually exclusive terms?
    Here's some food for thought:
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    Wingnut got a reaction from CelesteL1st in Green Tea & Green Tea Extract   
    This is what I was looking for. I appreciate that you took the time (or already had available) references for me to look through (and I did read each one). In each case, the phrase "black tea" was always used as conjecture. In fact, in your third reference, the author states:
    She gives the exact quote from Joseph Smith, and then interprets it. I don't know about you, but I don't usually take conjecture from single-named-otherwise-anonymous-online people as doctrine, but I do appreciate that she acknowledged that it is her own opinion.
    This and the above quote (also found in Witdsoe, Word of Wisdom, pp. 85-86) are what I have always been taught and what I daresay are most widely known among the general populace of the Church:
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    Wingnut got a reaction from Windseeker in Praise to the Man   
    President Eyring actually addressed this topic in the Sunday morning session, immediately following the choir's singing of "Praise to the Man."  He talked about "hero worship" and what it actually means.  https://www.lds.org/general-conference/watch/2014/10?lang=eng&vid=3821978328001&cid=4 (Listen to the whole thing, but around 11:26 is when this specific topic starts.)

    For me, a mission companion of mine gave the best answer I've ever heard as to why we talk about Joseph Smith so much (instead of Jesus, as many -- particularly outside the Church -- view it).  She said, "it's because of Joseph Smith that I know who Jesus Christ is."  I've never forgotten that, and I never will.
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    Wingnut got a reaction from nightcrawler1977 in Stay lifted on gay adoptions. This one really disturbs me.   
    The logic is simple.  A child is healthier when adopted into a home with a committed married couple (gay or otherwise), than being tossed around the foster system, in 10 different homes over the course of 18 years.
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    Wingnut got a reaction from applepansy in Stay lifted on gay adoptions. This one really disturbs me.   
    The logic is simple.  A child is healthier when adopted into a home with a committed married couple (gay or otherwise), than being tossed around the foster system, in 10 different homes over the course of 18 years.
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    Wingnut got a reaction from omegaseamaster75 in Stay lifted on gay adoptions. This one really disturbs me.   
    The logic is simple.  A child is healthier when adopted into a home with a committed married couple (gay or otherwise), than being tossed around the foster system, in 10 different homes over the course of 18 years.
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    Wingnut got a reaction from Sunday21 in Stay lifted on gay adoptions. This one really disturbs me.   
    The logic is simple.  A child is healthier when adopted into a home with a committed married couple (gay or otherwise), than being tossed around the foster system, in 10 different homes over the course of 18 years.
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    Wingnut got a reaction from The Folk Prophet in Praise to the Man   
    "Music in Church meetings should usually be sung in the language of the congregation."  (https://www.lds.org/handbook/handbook-2-administering-the-church/music?lang=eng#144)  Also from that same section: "The hymns are the basic music for worship services and are standard for all congregational singing. In addition, other appropriate selections may be used for prelude and postlude music, choir music, and special musical presentations. If musical selections other than the hymns are used, they should be in keeping with the spirit of the hymns. Texts should be doctrinally correct."
     
    So theoretically, I could see Ave Maria being sung in Sacrament meeting.  You can get around the language thing because the rest of the music is "usually" sung in English -- one special, specific piece, once a year, would be in keep with the Spirit of that instruction.  As for the rest of it, it's probably subjective, like you said, to the local bishop's discretion.  Is it doctrinally correct?  Perhaps not technically.  Is it in keeping with the Spirit of the hymns?  I'd say that's likely.
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    Wingnut reacted to skalenfehl in Stay lifted on gay adoptions. This one really disturbs me.   
    I have been and am both a foster and an adoptive parent. There are countless children in dire need of loving, patient, longsuffering parents. Yes, we live in a messed up world but one is either part of the problem or part of the solution. 
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    Wingnut reacted to jerome1232 in Stay lifted on gay adoptions. This one really disturbs me.   
    I would venture a guess that kids are going to do better under a loving gay couples home than under no home at all or even a broken one. I don't believe it's the ideal circumstance, but at the end of the day I'd be glad these kids found a home.


    I'm not sure how such a minority can make a statistical difference in adoption rates though.

     
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    Wingnut got a reaction from Suzie in Stay lifted on gay adoptions. This one really disturbs me.   
    The logic is simple.  A child is healthier when adopted into a home with a committed married couple (gay or otherwise), than being tossed around the foster system, in 10 different homes over the course of 18 years.
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    Wingnut reacted to The Folk Prophet in Praise to the Man   
    It's document-ably true. Or not. Who cares? You are very antagonistic.
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    Wingnut reacted to The Folk Prophet in Praise to the Man   
    *shrug* Maybe. I can see a ward choir singing it at Christmas time in Sacrament meeting without problem. Depends on the bishop's p.o.v. I suppose. Is there an actual policy against Latin in sacrament meeting? Hmm....
     
    Not the best choice for a hymn though...probably, because it's too Catholic. That's less of a deal now, but there was a time when the LDS church worked quite hard to separate themselves from anything that seemed too Catholic (and any other Christian denomination). Some of those things remain cultural, and some remain standards of good practice. Who knows where a song like Ave Maria falls into that.
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    Wingnut reacted to Just_A_Guy in Praise to the Man   
    Observations:
     
    1)  I'm pretty sure I've heard a recording of the Tabernacle Choir singing Ave Maria; so I doubt there's nothing wrong with the song itself--just, for whatever reason, inappropriate for a standard Sacrament meeting (maybe because the lyrics one typically hears to it, are in Latin?)
     
    2)  I suspect the hymnbook preface draws its assertion from D&C 25:12:  "For my soul delighteth in the song of the heart; yea, the song of the righteous is a prayer unto me, and it shall be answered with a blessing upon their heads". 
     
    Just tossing those out, for what they're worth . . .
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    Wingnut got a reaction from skalenfehl in Stay lifted on gay adoptions. This one really disturbs me.   
    The logic is simple.  A child is healthier when adopted into a home with a committed married couple (gay or otherwise), than being tossed around the foster system, in 10 different homes over the course of 18 years.
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    Wingnut reacted to omegaseamaster75 in Smithmas   
    I think it's called a Spork
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    Wingnut reacted to RMGuy in A controversial topic, to make MoE happy :)   
    Yes.  Living in a time when at least one state issues an extermination order against you based on your religion, the federal government sends an army to your door based on rumors and heresay, the Irish starving, spiritualism and seance sweeping the US, rampant Cholera - typhus - tuberculosis, Astor Place riots, passage of the fugitive slave act, Dred Scott decision, Civil War, Excessive poverty, work houses, Edmunds-Tucker act and church disenfranchised, syphillis hits its all time peak, whiskey ring bribery, Sumner caning, Philip Key killing, the Wounded Knee murders, Sage dynamite attack, The homestead steel strike, mountain meadows, and of course we could go on.  Yes, that sounds like a wonderful time to live.  
    I'll respond line by line if I may:
    Is more divorce a good thing or a bad thing?  Better to stay in abusive relationships?  
    You see physical discipline of children as a good thing?
    I'm not sure that your poverty demographics are accurate.  Poverty was rampant in inner cities throughout history.
    Church membership increase and diversity is a good thing is it not? 
    Access to information is a good thing, I don't know that we have increased ignorance.  
    $$ spent on entertainment could be better spend elsewhere, no question.  
    Why do we have specific roles for genders anyway?  My daughters are just as capable as my son and vice-versa.
    Is class a good thing?
    Really?  Have you read the Elizabethan sumptuary laws.  Now there is regulation for you.  
    I don't see children as assets or liabilities.  I see them as people.  
    This is clearly a bad thing, if you agree with what is being taught.  
    Yep.
    Not sure the intent here with dating and dances.  
    Yes, we deride "nerds" yet nearly worship their creations.  An interesting dichotomy.  
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    Wingnut got a reaction from mordorbund in Smithmas   
    I'd argue that St. Patrick's day is a huge party, a regular thing blown out of proportion.