Jamie123

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  1. I wish songwriters would think their lyrics out a bit more carefully: 1. The Righteous Brothers: "You never close your eyes anymore when I kiss your lips." How would he even know this unless he kept his own eyes open? Sounds like he's lost some "loving feeling" of his own. 2. Carly Simon: "I'll bet you think this song is about you." The song is about him! It can be about him without being in praise of him. It would be more a sign of vanity if he thought it wasn't about him, but about some other conceited man, and he's thinking "aren't I so wonderful not being vain like him?" 3. Chris de Burgh: "Close the shutters, do not cry, there's a new moon in the sky." Earlier in the same song he told us that "a big fat moon is dancing on the sea". In the time it's taken him to sing 11 lines, the moon has gone through half its complete orbit. 4. REO Speedwagon: "And if I have to crawl upon the floor, come crashing through your door." How can you come crashing through a door if you're crawling on the floor? How would you get enough momentum up, shuffling on your hands and knees? Unless it was a very rotten door that just collapsed when you nudged it with your head. It doesn't make sense.
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    Atlantis......... Was it real?

    There's a theory that the tale of Atlantis is a much-distorted account of the volcanic eruption on Santorini around 1,500BC. https://www.greeka.com/cyclades/santorini/sightseeing/santorini-volcano/atlantis/ But other cultures have myths of sunken islands and continents: the land of Lyonesse for example appears in the Arthurian legends. (St. Michael's Mound in Cornwall is supposed to be the last fragment of that country.) (If you've read Jack Vance's Lyonesse novels, you'll know he combined it with other mythical lands like Ys and Hybrasil, and placed it in the Bay of Biscay - but Vance's stories (fun though they are) are about as consistent with real myth as they are with real history. Also in Thomas Hardy's Wessex stories, the Scilly Islands are called "Lyonesse".) There are also sunken lands we know to have existed. The Dogger Bank for example, now a shallow area of the North Sea, was once "Doggerland". (It wasn't called that then of course - who knows what the people of the time called it - if they called it anything at all.)
  3. OK, to make up tor is here's a (different) clip from the far superior BBC version from the 1980s. (N.B. The guy with the extra head on his shoulder was naff even then.)
  4. Careless talk costs lives... (The BBC version was better but YouTube doesn't seem to have it)
  5. I've been watching quite a lot of Tucker Carlson recently. Sometimes I find myself agreeing with him, but at other times I think he's almost as unhinged as the people he's laying into. Here for instance he's interviewing Republican senator Mike Braun over his non-Republican stance over [well you all know what's been going on lately]. Anyway, he begins by saying how "disgraceful" it is that policeman Garret Rolfe is "facing the death penalty" for shooting dead Rayshard Brooks, after he punched him, stole his taser and fired it at another officer. He asks "What else could Rolfe have done?", as if this were some unanswerable rhetorical question. Well rather than dodge the question like Sen. Braun, I'm going to answer it. Call me a wet liberal if you will, but I think there is only one scenario in which the use of lethal force by the police is justified: an imminent threat to life. If he had grabbed an officer's loaded handgun it would have been another matter, but he didn't. He grabbed a taser. A taser is not a lethal weapon. Well OK, I guess it could be, if used against someone with a very weak heart, but not this particular taser. It had been fired twice, and could not be fired again without reloading. As Rolfe well knew. The "weapon" that Brooks was holding when he died had all the lethal force of a broken water pistol. "He took my taser" and "he punched me" just won't wash. Both deserve punishment for sure, but hardly a Judge-Dredd-style summary on-the-street execution. What else could Rolfe have done? Plenty. He had his colleagues around him, and others could easily have been called up. The suspect was on foot, and not lethally armed. Don't tell me that a team of skilled cops couldn't have run him down and captured him without filling his body with lead. As for "facing the death penalty", Rolfe hasn't even been tried yet, let alone sentenced. Admittedly this is all predicated on press reporting of this incident being accurate, but even Carlson isn't claiming any false news element. If this is the best example he can find of "police being unfairly persecuted" he obviously isn't looking very hard.
  6. I think the theory is that guilt and innocence are no business of anyone but the jury. Even a judge is not supposed to opine on whether a person is guilty or innocent. The most he/she can say is whether or not a "reasonable jury properly instructed" could find a person guilty based on the evidence presented.
  7. If the taser was unloaded, I imagine the sensation would be pretty much the same. Firstly he'd have had difficulty incapacitating anyone with an unloaded taser. The taser had been fired twice during the altercation...though I suppose in the heat of the moment he might have lost count.
  8. The same could happen here. The CPS (as we call it here) doesn't prosecute all cases the police sent it. Firstly there has to be a "reasonable chance of a conviction", and secondly the case has to be "in the public interest". (In theory anyway - though with some of the charging decisions they make, you wonder what kind of weed they're on.) But I think if I shot dead a man who was pointing an unloaded taser at me, I think it's very unlikely I wouldn't be facing a jury.
  9. I don't know what perspective the "Europeans" have! Seriously though, if I ever had to defend myself with deadly force, I wouldn't be in the slightest bit surprised if I had to explain my actions before a court of law. I'd just have to put my hope in a sensible jury!
  10. OK I'm no expert on tasers, I rather thought the whole point of them was to allow police to incapacitate people without killing them. But OK - I'll bow to your superior knowledge on that point. The fact remains though that that particular taser was out of juice. It had been fired twice. It was totally useless as a weapon - lethal or otherwise - unless reloaded. OK - mentioning Judge Dredd was hyperbole. But the "police weapon" he was holding was - literally - as dangerous as a broken water pistol. Well OK you do have a point there. I have never been a police officer and am totally an "armchair general" in this matter. But what's the alternative? Condone an officer shooting dead an effectively unarmed man? I certainly don't think the death penalty should be invoked. (Even if I believed in the death penalty - which I don't.) But all the same, the police cannot expect to do something like this, and for there to be no fallout.
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    Title IX Believe the Victim or the Perpetrator?

    Yes. To be a little less laconic, yes I think there should ba a presumption of innocence at that level as well as at the criminal court level. Otherwise it would be just too easy for a malicious accuser to have his/her way. "Do what I say or I'll accuse you of raping me - and you know I'll be the one who'll be believed!" They say false accusation is very rare. Whether that's true or not I dont know, but if it is, I bet it's at least partly down to the opposition that accusers face. Only those with a real complaint suffer through it. Remove that opposition, and an important safeguard against false accusation is gone.
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    Brigham Young statue vandalized

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    Title IX Believe the Victim or the Perpetrator?

    No it's not. I'm trying to demonstrate the fallacy of the argument: "Don't waste your efforts seeking justice for the falsely accused, when there are real rape victims who need justice far more." You might just as easily say "Don't waste your efforts seeking justice for rape victims, when there are murder victims out there."
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    Brigham Young statue vandalized

    I may well be digging a hole for myself, but here goes: I accept everything Vort says about the early LDS suffering at the hands of a mindless mob. That was totally wrong, and what's has been happening (to statues etc.) across the US and the UK is totally wrong too. Having said that, there are a lot of statues I would have been sadder to have seen dumped in the River Avon. Edward Colston waxed fat on the misery of thousands of black people, bought from African slave traders, shipped across the Atlantic under terrible conditions. Those who survived the voyages were sold as chattels in the New World, so that England could grow rich. Those slaves may not have been my ancestors (or even their neighbours) but they were human beings. Even compared to what happened to LDS in Ohio and Missouri, this has to count for something. Had it been John Newton I would have been deeply saddened: though once a slave trader, he repented and became an abolitionist. (He later wrote the hymn Amazing Grace; "how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me".) Colston as far as I know stayed a slave-trader all his life. Sure, he did a lot of charitable work, but only for white people. If I had my way, that statue would still be on its plinth, so that the people of Bristol could decide democratically what was to be done with it. I'd suggest putting it in a museum, so people could still see and appreciate an important - though flawed - figure of Bristol's history. (That's actually what's happening btw, now the statue has been fished out of the water.) So please excuse me for taking a certain grim satisfaction in what happened. If Vort can be forgiven for lacking sympathy, I think I can be too for having a little too much.
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    Title IX Believe the Victim or the Perpetrator?

    It's also worse to be murdered than it is to be raped, but I've never heard that as an argument for going only after the murderers and letting the rapists go free.
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    Brigham Young statue vandalized

    You may be right there. Once a statue comes down, everyone wants to "do one".
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    Brigham Young statue vandalized

    I don't understand about Lincoln either. Perhaps it was because his emancipation proclamation gave a free pass to the Northern slave states. Or perhaps because of what he said about freeing slaves vs. preserving the Union. (I can't quote exactly but I'm sure you know what I mean.)
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    Brigham Young statue vandalized

    Absolutely. Thats why we need to be on our guard. In our calmer moments we all think we're "the sensible ones". Remember "The Drumhead"? Even Worf got dragged along!
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    Brigham Young statue vandalized

    However messed up you are, Vort, I'm worse. After hearing so many stories of police brutality and other abuses (and I'm saying nothing about whether they're true stories or not), part of me can't help rejoicing that the "Man" supposedly behind it all has been given a bloody nose. And the sight of a cheering crowd rolling Colston's statue through the streets and dumping it in the river was funny. Like many other things, it shouldn't have been funny, but it was. So speaking for myself, I'm more worried about having too much sympathy than not enough. It helps to remember that however funny Colston may have seemed, other incidents of mob justice were not. Like in 2013, when Bijan Ebrahimi was dragged from his home, doused with gasoline and burned to death, because of rumours (false, as it later turned out) that he was a pedophile. The people who did that were not (to their own minds) evil. As far as they were concerned they were sticking up for the underdog. But an innocent man still died... Not that I'm equating killing a man with dunking a statue, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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    Brigham Young statue vandalized

    It doesn't surprise me in the least. Here, they've gone after Winston Churchill, Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King. This one was funny though... Disgraceful behaviour of course. Thoroughly reprehensible. But still funny!
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    Songs that Don't Make Sense

    And speaking of Lady Antebellum, they've now decided their name is politically incorrect. They're just plain "Lady A" now. (And don't you dare ask what the A stands for!) Utter nonsense. One can appreciate the elegance of the Antebellum South without approving of slavery - just as one can appreciate the culture and achievements of 5th Century Athens - or even pre-Norman Conquest England - without doing the same.
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    Songs that Don't Make Sense

    I've found another: Lady Antebellum: "I remember telling you I loved you / The northern star rising above you". If by "northern star" she means Polaris, that's impossible - unless of course you're travelling rapidly northwards.
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    Movies you like that no one else does

    That is SO cool!! Thanks!
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    Movies you like that no one else does

    I'm going to get "roasted as a racist" for saying this, but I'd love - just once - to see Song of the South in its entirety. I've only ever seen the Brer Rabbit segments, and the "zippety doo dah" scene on The Wonderful World of Disney when I was a kid. I believe they did once release it as a DVD, but you can't get it for love nor money now. These days Disney prefers to pretend that the movie never existed.