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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Carborendum in Freedom, Family, and The Gospel   
    You are wildly correct.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Carborendum in Freedom, Family, and The Gospel   
    Anyone want to hazard a guess as to where this comes from? "We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable."
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from JohnsonJones in Should POTUS/Senate push through SCOTUS judge?   
    In a fascinating Wall Street Journal article, the author said that the mistake of 2016 was that the GOP bothered trying to justify their actions. Obama's choice was not nominated because he did not have the votes. Now, Trump does. It really is pure politics, and always has been. Now the Democrats are threatening to pack SCOTUS, to make Washington DC and Puerto Rico states, etc. They will anyway. For them the Constitution is a living, breathing document--meant to be bent to their will. Personally, I remember when the SCOTUS nominations became nasty. Robert Bork was "borked" by the Democrats for his ideology. It was the first time. We've never recovered. There is no high ground left to take.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from JohnsonJones in Should POTUS/Senate push through SCOTUS judge?   
    In a fascinating Wall Street Journal article, the author said that the mistake of 2016 was that the GOP bothered trying to justify their actions. Obama's choice was not nominated because he did not have the votes. Now, Trump does. It really is pure politics, and always has been. Now the Democrats are threatening to pack SCOTUS, to make Washington DC and Puerto Rico states, etc. They will anyway. For them the Constitution is a living, breathing document--meant to be bent to their will. Personally, I remember when the SCOTUS nominations became nasty. Robert Bork was "borked" by the Democrats for his ideology. It was the first time. We've never recovered. There is no high ground left to take.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Traveler in Baptism of the Holy Ghost?   
    In Joseph Smith's era the above was true--very much so. However, your church's first prophet brought something to light--praying to receive a Holy Spirit witness--a burning in the bosom. LDS speak of being impressed by the Spirit. Indeed, the Bible says the Holy Spirit will convict us. We think of conviction as relating to sin, but He also gives us conviction--a strong sense of what is true. Of course, for Pentecostals/Charismatics the Holy Spirit brings spiritual power. On an intuitive level, many view the Heavenly Father as that traditional, strong, somewhat distant authority figure, who always seemed right. The Son, Jesus, is our brother, our example, even, on some level, our friend. The Holy Spirit though is an internal, intimate sense of God's presence. He is a Comforter, a guide, and most certainly, an assurance.
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    prisonchaplain reacted to Traveler in Baptism of the Holy Ghost?   
    If I did not know better I would think this is from a fellow Latter-day Saint.  In science there are two kinds of particles - fermions and bosons.  Fermions are what most of us think of as matter.  Bosons are quite different - for example two bosons can occupy the same space-time.  Photons (particles of light) are bosons.  One speculation is that spirit matter is similar to or are bosons.  This would explain how a spirit can occupy a physical body and otherwise be undetected.   This would also explain how the Holy Ghost can enter into our body and communicate directly with our spirit.
    It is LDS doctrine that our pre-existence spirit is the same "stuff" as the Holy Ghost and the pre-born entity of Mary - Jesus Christ.  It is also the same stuff of which Lucifer was and Satan remains to be.   It is also my speculation that Dark Matter and Dark Energy may be Boson type spirit matter.  This would mean that our universe is dominated by spirit stuff and give credence to a literal concept that spirit stuff gives life to the universe.  Of course this is all my speculation - but there has been little divine revelation on such things since science has advanced our physical understanding of the universe.  I do wish and speculate that if our eyes were "opened" that we would understand both science and religious doctrine much better.
    Perhaps our spirits are far more powerful than we realize - even in our physical universe.  One thing - I believe the scripture (including our Latter-day prophets) tries to inform us is that only by faith in Christ and through the Holy Ghost can we know truth - of anything. 
     
    Thanks for your input
     
    The Traveler
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Traveler in Baptism of the Holy Ghost?   
    In Joseph Smith's era the above was true--very much so. However, your church's first prophet brought something to light--praying to receive a Holy Spirit witness--a burning in the bosom. LDS speak of being impressed by the Spirit. Indeed, the Bible says the Holy Spirit will convict us. We think of conviction as relating to sin, but He also gives us conviction--a strong sense of what is true. Of course, for Pentecostals/Charismatics the Holy Spirit brings spiritual power. On an intuitive level, many view the Heavenly Father as that traditional, strong, somewhat distant authority figure, who always seemed right. The Son, Jesus, is our brother, our example, even, on some level, our friend. The Holy Spirit though is an internal, intimate sense of God's presence. He is a Comforter, a guide, and most certainly, an assurance.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Traveler in Baptism of the Holy Ghost?   
    In Joseph Smith's era the above was true--very much so. However, your church's first prophet brought something to light--praying to receive a Holy Spirit witness--a burning in the bosom. LDS speak of being impressed by the Spirit. Indeed, the Bible says the Holy Spirit will convict us. We think of conviction as relating to sin, but He also gives us conviction--a strong sense of what is true. Of course, for Pentecostals/Charismatics the Holy Spirit brings spiritual power. On an intuitive level, many view the Heavenly Father as that traditional, strong, somewhat distant authority figure, who always seemed right. The Son, Jesus, is our brother, our example, even, on some level, our friend. The Holy Spirit though is an internal, intimate sense of God's presence. He is a Comforter, a guide, and most certainly, an assurance.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Traveler in Netflix’s upcoming underage twerking movie - “Cuties”   
    You are blessed and highly favored.
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    prisonchaplain reacted to Jane_Doe in Kissing and making out before marriage? My friend told me that I should accept his standard on this   
    When you're a youth, dating exists to get to better know people and practice basics of relationships.  There's more focus on group events.  And of course, things should remain chaste.
    When you're a adult, dating exists for the purpose of finding a spouse.  There's more focus on pair off events.  And of course, things should remain chaste until marriage. 
    Nothing about the Lord's Law of Chasity is dependent on your age.    Living together / sex before are very serious perversions of the Lord's way.  Postponing marriage for selfish reasons of "I don't want to grow up!" is childish.  
     
    Also a relevant side point since you mentioned conversion: if a person is interested in coming to Christ, taking upon His name, and joining the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, that person is excepted to try to follow Him.  It's the give your whole heart, mind, might, and soul thing.  Therefore, yes you are actually expected to strive to keep the Lord's Law of Chastity.  If you're cohabitating, then you're obviously not there yet.    So we're work on that before baptism and formally taking His name upon yourself.  
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Midwest LDS in Should POTUS/Senate push through SCOTUS judge?   
    I don't represent the GOP, so I get to be more blunt. The secular fundamentalists hate America's undercurrent of Judeo-Christian morality with a passion. They desire to force our private colleges to house gay partners. They would use the force of law to compel us to provide professional services (cakes and flowers, etc.) for sacrilegious marriage sacraments. They would declare unfit for public office any who take their faith serious enough to be, for example, pro-life. The dogma lives loudly in us indeed. So...call us hypocrites all you want, we're putting as many of our judges in as we can, while we can. Your election term may be coming, but pardon us for defensively prepping.  
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Midwest LDS in Kissing and making out before marriage? My friend told me that I should accept his standard on this   
    Fair enough. I suspect that there is less caution and purity messaging in our college/career groups vs. our jr/sr high ones. So, perhaps more discretion is allowed. Still, modesty and opposition to fornication are counter-culture values we share.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Midwest LDS in Should POTUS/Senate push through SCOTUS judge?   
    I don't represent the GOP, so I get to be more blunt. The secular fundamentalists hate America's undercurrent of Judeo-Christian morality with a passion. They desire to force our private colleges to house gay partners. They would use the force of law to compel us to provide professional services (cakes and flowers, etc.) for sacrilegious marriage sacraments. They would declare unfit for public office any who take their faith serious enough to be, for example, pro-life. The dogma lives loudly in us indeed. So...call us hypocrites all you want, we're putting as many of our judges in as we can, while we can. Your election term may be coming, but pardon us for defensively prepping.  
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from mordorbund in Baptism of the Holy Ghost?   
    I looked as hard as I could in the OP, based on the headline, for the phrase, "with the initial physical evidence of speaking in tongues," and then realized, alas, that I was sorely mistaken.
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    prisonchaplain reacted to Just_A_Guy in Should POTUS/Senate push through SCOTUS judge?   
    Hmm.  You mean, your opponents tried to get your buy-in by promising not to do something, and then they went ahead did it anyways the first chance they got?  
    Yeah, welcome to my world.
    For better and for worse:  the days where Democrats could flagrantly lie in their negotiations with Republicans (“gays just want to be left alone, they don’t want *marriage*!“ “gay marriage doesn’t mean you have to agree with it!” “gay marriage will certainly never have repercussions for free exercise of religion!” “just legalize the aliens who are already here and we *promise* we’ll get tough on border security!” “no, we’ll totally support the military while it goes after the SOBs who perpetrated 9/11!” “we want abortion to be safe, rare, and legal; we certainly don’t celebrate it!” “we just want to remove the statues of Confederates; of *course* we continue to revere Washington and Adams and Jefferson and Madison and Lincoln!” “We believe in treating people the same regardless of race” “We have no intention of nationalizing the health care industry!”) while simultaneously expecting Republicans to keep their own promises regardless of cost, are now over.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Midwest LDS in Should POTUS/Senate push through SCOTUS judge?   
    I don't represent the GOP, so I get to be more blunt. The secular fundamentalists hate America's undercurrent of Judeo-Christian morality with a passion. They desire to force our private colleges to house gay partners. They would use the force of law to compel us to provide professional services (cakes and flowers, etc.) for sacrilegious marriage sacraments. They would declare unfit for public office any who take their faith serious enough to be, for example, pro-life. The dogma lives loudly in us indeed. So...call us hypocrites all you want, we're putting as many of our judges in as we can, while we can. Your election term may be coming, but pardon us for defensively prepping.  
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from NeuroTypical in Should POTUS/Senate push through SCOTUS judge?   
    I'm torn, but thinking that any semblance of decency, respect and cooperation between opposing sides is gone . Many religious leaders are expecting persecution, either following November's election, or a few years later. At least having one more judge in place will delay some of the trials/tribulations to come. :::sigh:::
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from NeuroTypical in Should POTUS/Senate push through SCOTUS judge?   
    I'm torn, but thinking that any semblance of decency, respect and cooperation between opposing sides is gone . Many religious leaders are expecting persecution, either following November's election, or a few years later. At least having one more judge in place will delay some of the trials/tribulations to come. :::sigh:::
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    prisonchaplain reacted to Vort in Freedom, Family, and The Gospel   
    Wild guess: BLM
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    prisonchaplain reacted to Traveler in Becoming like God   
    Sometimes I am dumbfounded that we agree on so many things when our understanding seems so different.
    While in college, I did very poorly in the liberal arts that seemed to dismiss logic and prize nonsense.  Since you used agriculture as an example - it is like the Agricultural Science graduate that returns to the family farm having finished college and soon found himself arguing with his dad about how to farm the land.  He tried to convince his father to plow and plant in straight rows to which his father would gruffly reply that more could be planted on a crooked row than a straight row.  Finely, in frustration the boy asked his father, "Don't you want to be a better farmer?"  To which the father responded, "I have known, long before you were born; how to be a better farmer!"
    For purpose of discussion lets examine your simple phrase.
    Although at the surface we may seem to agree on the power of the river finding its way to the sea - but there are deep undertows and back currents in our rivers of understanding.  And so I would appeal to the graduate scholar in you.  Anciently, in the era of understanding when the scriptures were recorded by chosen oracles (chosen by G-d not by determinations of any man) the term "righteous" did not directly mean someone of noble deeds.  It was a reference to someone that had made a "Covenant" with G-d.  At the surface we may see a covenant as a great river flowing to the sea.  But if we were to put a boat in the waters of the river without care of undertows and back currents - we will not likely make the journey to the sea, alive and in tact. 
    So what is a covenant with G-d?  How do we become righteous?  What is the difference in a covenant with G-d?  We should agree (I think) that deeds are a symptom - not the cause.  That someone that covenants with G-d will do good deeds but not all that do a good deed have a covenant with G-d.
    Someday we will all stand before G-d and we will have, through his grace and word, the opportunity and right (by COVENANT made before we were born a mortal) to make an account to G-d of our covenants.  I do not think, for example, that we will stand in G-d's presents and be judged of our knowledge of the do's and don't's of Keeping the Sabbath".  I believe we will account for our Sabbath Covenant and how our Sabbath Covenant prepared us and shaped us into our Eternal self and that Eternal self will be indistinguishable from the quality and attribute of G-d - or if our eternal self is not like unto G-d's Eternal self - we will be unworthy and unable to be one with G-d.
    If I have a point to make - it is covenant.  It is not which doctrine is better - whatever a better doctrine is.  It is all about covenant.  But the last point about having a covenant with G-d.  We do not make up our own covenant (through reading scripture or by any other means) and think that will do with G-d.  It is not for us to present "our" covenant or ideas of covenant to G-d and then think we have a covenant.  There is only "one" divine (true and living) covenant.  But there are many counterfeit covenants.  Which is the only purpose of Satan.  To get whom he will to accept any of the seemingly infinite false counterfeit covenants and thereby become divided and not one.
     
    The Traveler
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Anddenex in Becoming like God   
    Several years ago we had an inmate who was LDS. At the time, we had no LDS volunteers, so he came to Protestant Chapel. On his last Sunday he asked me if he could bare his testimony. I agreed, and he testified that he believed Joseph Smith was a prophet, and that Jesus is the Savior. He want on to say he sensed the Holy Spirit in me and that the brothers would do well to listen my teaching and keep following the Lord. I'm sure he believed I did not have spiritual authority and that I was missing some important doctrine. Therefore, I took his words as high praise. Perhaps that is how many LDS take C.S. Lewis--a critic of the church who, nevertheless, said/wrote many pro-LDS things.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Anddenex in Becoming like God   
    This is a utilitarian perspective. To oversimplify, "May the best behaved/achieved win!" And, of course, badly behaved LDS and Trinitarians are likely to find themselves in the same trouble on Judgement Day. Still, is the WoW, for example, really more important than the doctrine of who God is? Here's how that looks, btw:
    LDS: We don't drink, smoke, gamble or chew.
    AG: Neither do we.
    LDS: Oh yeah? Well, we don't drink coffee or tea either!
    AG: Okay...but we don't dance! (okay...circa 1970s, but work with me)
    It is important to do right and good, and to love our neighbor. Still...who God is has to be the ultimate question. Even if we do not believe we can fully comprehend the answer, we must keep seeking to know Him more, right?
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    prisonchaplain reacted to estradling75 in Becoming like God   
    Of course we must continue to seek him and adjust that is one of the most important things.  Let me use your lists as an example.
    Dancing, coffee, tea, smoking etc... Are all done because we believe that is what God wants of us.  We might hedge up a bunch of reasons and excuses why the Lord wants that of us, but it does not change what should be our fundamental driving force.  Doing the will of God.  As our understanding changes our behavior changes
    So a faithful Latter-day Saint seeks the Lord and continually adjusts as they learn more.  Then the prophet says "Thus saith the Lord... No More Dancing"    Said faithful Saint stops dancing even if they danced a lot before.
    By the same token an Assemblies of God Chaplain who has spend his life serving God the best he knows how.  He gets a "Thus saith the Lord... No More Coffee"  of his own.  Odds are such a Faithful and Obedient Chaplin obeys and stops. No matter how much he liked coffee before.
    Neither one are sinners (in that thing) until God's will is made known, to them, and God will be merciful as they work to repent (aka change) and follow their new understanding.
    As for the true nature of God.  I ask anyone to find one attribute of Christ that we need to learn and emulate (aka that is actionable by us), that is fundamentally different, depending on if the truth is Godhead or Trinity.  Name one?  Being one with God?  Christ taught us that in the garden when he basically said "Father this thing you want me to do is hard and I want another way if possible, but nevertheless not my will but yours be done."  The actions and attitudes Christ is exemplaring  here for us to develop are exactly the same, with either doctrinal foundation.
    Both type who try their best to follow Christ will at some point stand before God and be corrected of their errors (which will be many assuredly)  Errors in understanding are the easiest things to correct (aka repent of)  Both of these people will gladly accept the correction and move on.   The real danger isn't the wrong understanding (which is easy to correct) the real danger is hardening of our heart against the Spirit's attempt to offer correction.  That is when it gets hard, because we rebel and this rebellion will lead us to the point of the refusing to hear the Lord and refuse correction in the simplest things.
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    prisonchaplain reacted to Grunt in Becoming like God   
    Divides us how?  
    I also understand, and agree, that you don't want to get it wrong.  Honestly, that's what has led me here.  The theology and doctrine of Latter-day Saints just made sense to me, if our understanding of God was correct.  If it isn't, then he isn't a loving or forgiving God and we're all hosed anyway.  
    Through prayer and faith, I came to understand that this is the correct doctrine.  I'm not confident enough to say I understand everything, but I do know without a doubt in my mind that I'm where God wants me to be and on the path He has chosen.   I also have come to understand the depths of His love for me, and that repentance isn't "just in case".  It's Plan A.   
    Because I know these things, and repent daily, I'm not as concerned with "getting it wrong".  I AM concerned with progressing and enduring to the end, but because I know He loves me and has provided me the tools and knowledge to make it back to Him, but I'm not as worried about whether or not I get it wrong.  
    I'm not worried about you getting it wrong either.  Don't take it the wrong way, but even though I think you aren't acting with His authority and missing part of His doctrine (I honestly don't know what you believe, so this is an assumption), I think you are still doing His work and He loves you for that.  I believe you'll do just fine when we are judged, and will have come to know Christ's true self in Spirit Prison.
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    prisonchaplain reacted to laronius in Becoming like God   
    To quote Joseph Smith from the King Follett discourse: "If men do not comprehend the character of God, they do not comprehend themselves." Not knowing who God is is like putting a very complicated puzzle together without knowing the picture but where God is the picture and we are the pieces. Also, our faith to act on God's word is directly connected to our ability to comprehend Him or at least his qualities. Knowing God after all is the definition of life eternal. So I completely agree. And to @estradling75 point, to "see" Christ is to see the Father. So to be like Christ you must first come to know him in which case you are also coming to know the Father.