prisonchaplain

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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from AngelMarvel in don't go to church because of racist neighbor   
    It's hard to know what turns people away.  It might be race.  It might be nervousness over an accent.  It could be something you said or did, that meant nothing to you, but was interpreted negatively by the other person.  To give an example, I was speaking with another pastor one time, and we were talking about beverages.  I said that I prefer higher-end brands, as they really do taste better.  His response was something to the effect that he did not think Jesus would be so picky.  I was totally caught off guard by that.  He thought I was being pretentious, snooty, and arrogant.  We continued to be acquaintances, but I doubt he would ever let me get close after that.  There wasn't much I could do.  He'd formed an opinion, and no protesting on my part would change that.  So, I was nice to him--cordial, but came to realize that we were never meant to be close buddies.
     
    Perhaps your neighbor falls into this category.  The problem is probably not yours, and you cannot do much to fix it.  So, be nice, be cordial, but stop investing emotional energy into this lady.  She's probably not one that Heavenly Father meant for you to get close to.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Misshalfway in don't go to church because of racist neighbor   
    It's hard to know what turns people away.  It might be race.  It might be nervousness over an accent.  It could be something you said or did, that meant nothing to you, but was interpreted negatively by the other person.  To give an example, I was speaking with another pastor one time, and we were talking about beverages.  I said that I prefer higher-end brands, as they really do taste better.  His response was something to the effect that he did not think Jesus would be so picky.  I was totally caught off guard by that.  He thought I was being pretentious, snooty, and arrogant.  We continued to be acquaintances, but I doubt he would ever let me get close after that.  There wasn't much I could do.  He'd formed an opinion, and no protesting on my part would change that.  So, I was nice to him--cordial, but came to realize that we were never meant to be close buddies.
     
    Perhaps your neighbor falls into this category.  The problem is probably not yours, and you cannot do much to fix it.  So, be nice, be cordial, but stop investing emotional energy into this lady.  She's probably not one that Heavenly Father meant for you to get close to.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Saul Hudson in don't go to church because of racist neighbor   
    It's hard to know what turns people away.  It might be race.  It might be nervousness over an accent.  It could be something you said or did, that meant nothing to you, but was interpreted negatively by the other person.  To give an example, I was speaking with another pastor one time, and we were talking about beverages.  I said that I prefer higher-end brands, as they really do taste better.  His response was something to the effect that he did not think Jesus would be so picky.  I was totally caught off guard by that.  He thought I was being pretentious, snooty, and arrogant.  We continued to be acquaintances, but I doubt he would ever let me get close after that.  There wasn't much I could do.  He'd formed an opinion, and no protesting on my part would change that.  So, I was nice to him--cordial, but came to realize that we were never meant to be close buddies.
     
    Perhaps your neighbor falls into this category.  The problem is probably not yours, and you cannot do much to fix it.  So, be nice, be cordial, but stop investing emotional energy into this lady.  She's probably not one that Heavenly Father meant for you to get close to.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from EarlJibbs in don't go to church because of racist neighbor   
    It's hard to know what turns people away.  It might be race.  It might be nervousness over an accent.  It could be something you said or did, that meant nothing to you, but was interpreted negatively by the other person.  To give an example, I was speaking with another pastor one time, and we were talking about beverages.  I said that I prefer higher-end brands, as they really do taste better.  His response was something to the effect that he did not think Jesus would be so picky.  I was totally caught off guard by that.  He thought I was being pretentious, snooty, and arrogant.  We continued to be acquaintances, but I doubt he would ever let me get close after that.  There wasn't much I could do.  He'd formed an opinion, and no protesting on my part would change that.  So, I was nice to him--cordial, but came to realize that we were never meant to be close buddies.
     
    Perhaps your neighbor falls into this category.  The problem is probably not yours, and you cannot do much to fix it.  So, be nice, be cordial, but stop investing emotional energy into this lady.  She's probably not one that Heavenly Father meant for you to get close to.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Bini in don't go to church because of racist neighbor   
    It's hard to know what turns people away.  It might be race.  It might be nervousness over an accent.  It could be something you said or did, that meant nothing to you, but was interpreted negatively by the other person.  To give an example, I was speaking with another pastor one time, and we were talking about beverages.  I said that I prefer higher-end brands, as they really do taste better.  His response was something to the effect that he did not think Jesus would be so picky.  I was totally caught off guard by that.  He thought I was being pretentious, snooty, and arrogant.  We continued to be acquaintances, but I doubt he would ever let me get close after that.  There wasn't much I could do.  He'd formed an opinion, and no protesting on my part would change that.  So, I was nice to him--cordial, but came to realize that we were never meant to be close buddies.
     
    Perhaps your neighbor falls into this category.  The problem is probably not yours, and you cannot do much to fix it.  So, be nice, be cordial, but stop investing emotional energy into this lady.  She's probably not one that Heavenly Father meant for you to get close to.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Jane_Doe in Non-Member at BYU   
    I've looked around the BYU website, and even read a blog by a non-member who attended.  The schools do expect religious participation, but that can be fulfilled in any house of worship.  BYU gives tuition breaks to its members, but the non-member price is still quite economical, as private schools go.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from faith4 in Recent discussion with on anti-Mormon website...and painful comments.   
    Some of the greatest Christian thinkers have written about the imagio deo that is in each living person. We're all created in his image, so we all have love in us.  Sometimes our perception of being correct actually hinders the expression of God in us.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from mordorbund in So, what next?   
    I imagine some kin of the Beverly Hillbillies writing them and asking if they get bored, since they no longer have to walk to the outhouse to take care of business, they no longer have to stock the wood stove, no longer have to hand wash their clothes, and hang them out to dry, etc.  They'd find it hard to explain their new lives, so they'd like respond that they are doing just fine, and not to worry.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from The Folk Prophet in Recent discussion with on anti-Mormon website...and painful comments.   
    Absolutely...by demonstration, and without words. 
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Blackmarch in Recent discussion with on anti-Mormon website...and painful comments.   
    A wild guess here, but I wonder if their argument was:  If you do not have God, and God is love, then you cannot have/express loved.  It's an academic, semantic, and, I suppose, theological argument.  What I would say to them, as a fellow Trinitarian, is: Don't be harsh-toned and mean-seeming when you are trying to tell someone you have love and they don't.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from The Folk Prophet in Recent discussion with on anti-Mormon website...and painful comments.   
    A wild guess here, but I wonder if their argument was:  If you do not have God, and God is love, then you cannot have/express loved.  It's an academic, semantic, and, I suppose, theological argument.  What I would say to them, as a fellow Trinitarian, is: Don't be harsh-toned and mean-seeming when you are trying to tell someone you have love and they don't.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Crypto in Let's talk about White Privilege   
    I'll admit that white privilege exists.  So does tall privilege (I'm 6' 4").  My status as an American and a Protestant Christian helped me getting a teaching job in Korea.  So...do I take some things for granted?  Yes.  Might I be ignorant of some hurdles that African-Americans (and short people, and religious minorities) face?  Of course.
     
    What I loathe is that phrase, "Check your privilege."  It's all the rage in college classroom discourses these days.  Professors sometimes invoke it.  The meaning?  "Be quiet.  You don't understand because of your privilege, so you get to just listen now."
     
    We all have our perspectives, our privileges, and our blindspots.  Yes...we should listen more.  However, to tell someone to be quiet  because of their background is "rude much."
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Backroads in Let's talk about White Privilege   
    I'll admit that white privilege exists.  So does tall privilege (I'm 6' 4").  My status as an American and a Protestant Christian helped me getting a teaching job in Korea.  So...do I take some things for granted?  Yes.  Might I be ignorant of some hurdles that African-Americans (and short people, and religious minorities) face?  Of course.
     
    What I loathe is that phrase, "Check your privilege."  It's all the rage in college classroom discourses these days.  Professors sometimes invoke it.  The meaning?  "Be quiet.  You don't understand because of your privilege, so you get to just listen now."
     
    We all have our perspectives, our privileges, and our blindspots.  Yes...we should listen more.  However, to tell someone to be quiet  because of their background is "rude much."
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    prisonchaplain reacted to FunkyTown in Let's talk about White Privilege   
    I'm not sure what the point of the articles are. "White privilege exists".
     
    More specifically, "Rich people privilege exists". Rich neighborhoods tend to have less crime. They tend to have better schools(Because they can afford them). They tend to have better shopping, less homelessness and fewer run-ins with cops. Regardless of color, that is a thing.
     
    Does it matter? Let's say that it exists.
     
    What now? Great. You've identified that I have a privilege. Usually, someone will say something because they have a point to make. In this case, is 'White Privilege' being used:
     
    A) As a bludgeon to excuse bad behaviour.
    B) Some other thing?
     
    Ultimately, what's the point of bringing it up? Are people looking for excuses or pointing fingers?
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    prisonchaplain reacted to Backroads in Let's talk about White Privilege   
    This is helpful, though it seems like continually bringing up white privilege only makes matters worse. We complain about the nastiness of white privilege attacks because we have only seen it as an attack. It's dividing and helps no one.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from EarlJibbs in Religious Affiliation on the forums   
    Yikes...I've been outed! 
     
    So, wait...PC isn't LDS?  And, he isn't Catholic.  He's AoG?  Woh....   
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from PolarVortex in Best. Logician joke. EVAR. (with exclamation points, ones, and at signs)   
    The question--asking for a question--and an answer--gets answer with a question and an answer that forces and endless loop.  So it's technically correct, and mildly--in a British cuisine kind of way--funny.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Blackmarch in Religious Affiliation on the forums   
    Yikes...I've been outed! 
     
    So, wait...PC isn't LDS?  And, he isn't Catholic.  He's AoG?  Woh....   
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    prisonchaplain reacted to pam in Religious Affiliation on the forums   
    For those of us that wanted it, it's now here.  On each post under the poster's avatar it will now show the religious affiliation for those that filled that out on their profile info.
     
    Yayyy.  It definitely helps when having conversations to know what religion a poster is to understand where they are coming from in their responses.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in Ferguson After Action: Do white conservatives need to talk less and listen more?   
    Your statistics suggest that African-Americans are over represented in crimes/robberies by between 3 and 4-fold.  Yet LP tells us that they are shot at 21-fold that of Whites.
     
    There are likely many reasons for these numbers.  However, it does seem reasonable that the African-American community believes police are too quick to shoot their young men.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from jerome1232 in Ferguson After Action: Do white conservatives need to talk less and listen more?   
    Your statistics suggest that African-Americans are over represented in crimes/robberies by between 3 and 4-fold.  Yet LP tells us that they are shot at 21-fold that of Whites.
     
    There are likely many reasons for these numbers.  However, it does seem reasonable that the African-American community believes police are too quick to shoot their young men.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Backroads in Friendly advice for conservative Evangelicals (& LDS) from an gay rabbi?   
    My guess is that the rabbi is defining conservatives by their issue stances--i.e. Pro-life, Pro-traditional
    marriage, anti-gambling, anti-pornography, etc., rather than by the classic conservative political philosophy of controlling social mores through the force of government authority.
     
     
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    prisonchaplain reacted to The Folk Prophet in Friendly advice for conservative Evangelicals (& LDS) from an gay rabbi?   
    Agree with the profound effect comment. But overall public acceptance in sheer numbers is not necessarily the prime variable, imo, for judging profoundness of impact. Without the media's subtle teachings of normalcy, getting right at the core of Joe-sixpack's moral center, the legality/illegality would never have been an issue in the first place.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from The Folk Prophet in Friendly advice for conservative Evangelicals (& LDS) from an gay rabbi?   
    Maybe the best answer is, rather than taking the bait and choosing culture over politics, we simply do both.  It's like the classic college professor who says:
     
    A or B?
     
    And the brilliant freshman who correctly answers, "Yes."