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This is quite interesting. I find that it is quite a commitment to be able to think this way, and help me to understand a bit more about you Vort. Thank you for your patience. I am so glad to have been able to create this discussion with you, and others too. I find it is difficult to learn of a religious point of view for my way of life, because most people of faith do not want to say other than that I go to hell, but that is not the case here. I appreciate all that you share with me, but I think to finish the discussion so people do not think of me as a "one issue kinda gal":lol: Thanks again to everyone who has discussed with me on this thread.

In this I was refering to the argument about the nuclear family as the purpose of marriage. I assumed that you spoke of child bearing and raising, and that this is the purpose of marriage. Meaning that because two woman can have no children, this is why they should not marry. My sincire apology if I misunderstood the meaning.

Thank you Vort for your well articulated response. I admit to being troubled by one section although: I have every respect in your position, but I think it unfortunate to imply that a homosexual only care about sex. We care for marriage for every reason that a hetero couple might. Not all hetero marriages may have children for various complications, so should an infirtile be denied marriage? They could adopt, but a homo couple may also adopt and rescue a child from government care and give it a happy home. Also, why not then make divorce illegal, or adultry as these are truly destructive of a "nuclear" family. I am truly greatful to hear your points of view.

I was not aware of this teaching of your faith. Hearing this helps me to at least further understand your point of view, so thanks. Also, I think that maybe I should like to stay in Europe if the rules of god are easier here.

Thank you Maxel. I am afraid that I must not agree with this position as I am a homosexual woman, and do no feel that I make the degeneration of civilized society as you say, but I am glad to hear your thoughts and have respect for them. This is just difficult for me to understand this line of thinking, because in my thought, many places where people like me can marry, such as my country, Canada, Spain, Norway, and others...they are quite civil and clean, with order and low crime. Truly, they tend to be the cleanest, safest, most civil countries in the world. Again, I have full respect for your postion, and please I hope not to make offense, but I am still quite mystified by this line of thinking.

Thank you so much. The link is exactly what I was looking for.

After I read through my comment I realize that it sound probably very rude. It was not meant in this way and I am very sorry if I was abrasive.

Germany is the strongest capitalist economy in the world? Or do you just assume that every large company is from America. I think these will not sell well in eastern europe.

"Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker." Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory

I only find out last week that my country have a team. They are seemingly good, so maybe I shall make room for them between football matches, although the rules seem strange to me.

I have found a bible at the book store as they are easy to come by, but the Book of Mormon is not available. Where might I acquire one?

I hope not to offend anyone, but may I please ask why so many here believe that Homosexual marriage will bring an end to the country? My country has allowed this from 2001, and we are still quite in tact. Also several other countries allow this, even your neighbor Canada, and yet they are still lovely places. Even some of your own states already allow this I believe, such as Massachusetts yes? Please, I do not wish to offend. I only ask because I have never heard this like of thinking before, and this issue is close to me.

Also, thank you all for such a warm welcome. I appreciate you all.

Yes, that is correct. Spreekt u het Nederlands?

Hello, I am a student at the University of Amsterdam studying in the Faculteit der Rechtsgeleerdheid. I am not a saint as you say, but was curious to find more about this religion and accidentaly found this site as I was looking for the official website lds.org, and I thought to make a membership. I hope that this is okay, but I am not of your church.