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mikbone got a reaction from LDSGator in Big XII standings
I think it’s just a hamstring. Probably just needs to take a couple weeks off.
But yeah y’all were looking great.
And I was looking forward to seeing the same dismantling of Texas. 🤞🏻
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mikbone reacted to Just_A_Guy in Genius Move Against Shoplifters
The thing is, we already have a federal program geared towards making sure that women, infants, and children have enough to eat. And that’s above and beyond a broader program of food stamps/TANF. The programs are not particularly well-administered, in my experience; but they do exist and they do work.
Moreover, I’ve been a desperately poor parent[*]. I would venture to guess that a lot of folks—especially LDS folks, who are encouraged to start having children early—have been. I never resorted to crime. In that time of poverty it was my upbringing and values and social network, not my need, that determined my life choices.
It’s certainly dangerous to over-generalize; but on the whole I don’t think people steal because they are hungry. Rather, I think they steal—and fail to succeed professionally—through a combination of entitlement, a lack of self-discipline, and a rejection of the possibility of (or the character traits, skills, and activities that enable) social mobility. That sounds like a moral judgment, and I don’t mean it to—a lot of folks, especially these days, just weren’t raised to know any better; and political/“community” leaders have tended to cater to and exacerbate these traits, rather than working and demanding accountability to see that those traits are extinguished.
*EDIT: on a re-reading, what I should have written is “I’ve been desperately poor *as a* parent.”
Though, I’m a pretty poor parent, too.
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mikbone reacted to Carborendum in Trump just won the election
Well, you see, it is a Seussian metaphor.
Camels store it all in a single hump dump.
Or they can stump from the hump of the wump of Gump.
Then a straw can pump from the big plump hump.
And have Biden jump over a clump and a lump.
That chump just gave a bump to the election of Trump.
** Sorry, I'm no Dr. Seuss
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mikbone reacted to Just_A_Guy in Trump just won the election
And before that, Biden.
But Swift’s appalling taste in men has always been part of her charm.
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mikbone reacted to Just_A_Guy in Evil Speaking of the Lord's Annointed
The older I get, the more apropos it seems to compare the marital relationship to the relationship between the Church membership and the Q15.
My relationship with spouse is important, even salvational. Truth is important, even salvational. Sometimes my spouse is wrong and I am right. Sometimes she is right and I am wrong. I don’t usually know when I am wrong while I am in the act of being wrong. Even when I am quite sure my spouse is wrong—there are times when it’s important she knows she’s wrong, and there’s are times it’s not important. *How* I tell my spouse she’s wrong, matters a great deal. I can do immense harm to our relationship if I go about it in the wrong way. Just because I may need to tell my spouse she’s wrong, doesn’t necessarily mean I need to tell third parties that she’s wrong. How I talk about my spouse to third parties, again, matters enormously. I can do immense harm to our relationship if I go about it in the wrong way. With regard to points 4-8: I need to be really careful to think about what my own motivations are in these cases. What am I trying to accomplish? Am I trying to use guilt or shame in furtherance of some personal agenda?
As with the relationship between me and my spouse: so with the relationship between me and the Church leadership.
With regard to the intra-Church Brigham-hate, I think most of it comes from three distinct camps:
A. Libertines who, on behalf of themselves or out of some warped notion of “love for others”, want to bring the Sexual Revolution into the church; but realize they can only do so by undermining the historical underpinnings of the current leadership’s moral authority. These people deserve contempt.
B. Trauma-dumpers. Generally victims of abuse or infidelity (or very close to such victims), who as a coping/survival mechanism have adopted broad caricatures about the sort of people who perpetrate these misdeeds. These folks tend to get (and I don’t mean this pejoratively) triggered by superficial similarities between alleged conduct of JS/BY. Detailed arguments justifying JS/BY and explaining how their conduct and motives differed from actual predators, demands a re-opening and re-processing of old wounds and a certain embrace of empathy and nuance that many of these folks just aren’t willing (or, perhaps, therapeutically able) to undertake. They deserve pity (but to the extent that they perpetuate historical falsehoods, those must still be refuted).
C. Populist-conservatives who have for various reasons (especially COVID) developed a new streak of anti-institutionalism and are still trying to reconcile that with the fastidious obedience (and often, brittle black-and-white thinking) that they’ve traditionally offered to the Church (eg, “Why would a prophet who can never be wrong demand that my family to take this 100% Satanic vaccine?”). I think a certain amount of historic-church-hate like this tends to soothe a lot of their concerns (“prophets CAN be wrong and things will still come out ok in the long run”); but I don’t think such people have really thought through the full ramifications of the historical allegations they’ve accepted as true, and I think that over time that mentality to some degree becomes a spiritual bandage that conceals tissue that is festering rather than healing. And I really don’t know how to deal with people in that mindset.
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mikbone got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in Evil Speaking of the Lord's Annointed
For a self proclaimed expert to charge Brigham Young with the origin of polygamy is nonsense.
We don’t have enough information about the ban on priesthood. And we shouldn’t judge the early saints based upon our current understanding of racism.
Adam-God is still a conundrum of a line of thought. I think that Brigham Young heard something that Joseph Smith Shared with him that he confused. But to act like Adam-God theory was the only teaching the Brigham Young taught is hateful and just wrong. We all owe him a debt of gratitude. As well as all the other prophets of the Lord.
Go BYU!
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mikbone got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in Evil Speaking of the Lord's Annointed
Man, it's hard to follow Joseph Smith.
If you have a good understanding of all the celestial experiences and insight that Joseph Smith possessed you recognize that if he had a question, he would essentially ask for an answer and receive direct revelation. Visits from God himself, Angelic messengers, Urim and Thummin, word-for-word revelation, it goes on and on.
And then Brigham Young takes the helm and much of the constant direct revelation stops. Brigham has to lean on the limited revelation that he receives and process that with the insights he learned from Joseph.
It would be like you or I taking over the Kansas City Chiefs QB position after Patrick Mahomes got injured. It would be a very bumpy ride.
Like Joshua following Moses. Big shoes to fill.
Is it ok for Brigham Young to make some mistakes? Sure. I would have done much worse myself.
Should we be critical and speak evil about him? No.
Should we recognize that he was in a difficult situation? Yeah. Don't candy-coat his history. Recognize it for what it was.
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mikbone reacted to Traveler in Evil Speaking of the Lord's Annointed
I will begin my post by saying that all the posters of this thread have the basic concept all wrong and upside down. Well – that statement could get some attention. Sometimes we look at things within a specific context and we panic because of the only conclusion we can draw in that context.
Joseph made some very serious mistakes. He lost several sacred pages of the translation of the Book of Mormon strictly in open rebellion against G-d’s command. What chosen prophet does that? Joseph also got caught up in the Kirtland Safety Society and lost millions of precious dollars to the poverty-stricken fledgling Church.
It is not that difficult – if you want to find fault in the “L-rd’s Anointed” it is not that difficult. Lucifer found fault in our Eternal Father in Heaven and divided the most advanced, intelligent and sophisticated society that exists in association to this universe. The Scribes and Pharisees – the most knowledgeable students (and preservers) of sacred scripture found sufficient fault in Jesus of Nazareth to condemn him to death. Any prophet of any time period that has said anything important has been seriously discounted – sometimes even put to death (example Abinadi).
The arguments against truth have never found difficulty in criticizing those that bear that truth. It is not uncommon that there is some justification in such criticism. Our G-d knows these things and that opposition is necessary. It is my personal belief that G-d has his servants and covenant Saints in the palm of his hands. He sees where all things come from and where all things lead to.
There are many of us multi-generational members that have speculated badly why certain children of G-d were kept from the priesthood and temple covenants because of their lineage. As to polygamy – both the act and purpose was seriously abused by many that should have known better having received the gift of the Holy Ghost.
We live in turbulent times – not just physically but spiritually and theologically as well. We have our living prophets, our living G-d and our living Church. The operative concept here is “living”. Included in the concept of living is the revelation of truth. Our living Church has living stake presidents, bishops and many ministering servants – most certainly including our sister Saints. We do not need to rely of the testimony of any one single individual – we have many anointed Saints. More than at any other time in the history of mankind on this earth.
The Traveler
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mikbone got a reaction from Anddenex in Seeking angels
I’ve had a similar experience.
Ether 12:6 And now, I, Moroni, would speak somewhat concerning these things; I would show unto the world that faith is things which are hoped for and not seen; wherefore, dispute not because ye see not, for ye receive no witness until after the trial of your faith.
D&C 67:10 And again, verily I say unto you that it is your privilege, and a promise I give unto you that have been ordained unto this ministry, that inasmuch as you strip yourselves from jealousies and fears, and humble yourselves before me, for ye are not sufficiently humble, the veil shall be rent and you shall see me and know that I am—not with the carnal neither natural mind, but with the spiritual.
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mikbone got a reaction from Carborendum in Evil Speaking of the Lord's Annointed
Man, it's hard to follow Joseph Smith.
If you have a good understanding of all the celestial experiences and insight that Joseph Smith possessed you recognize that if he had a question, he would essentially ask for an answer and receive direct revelation. Visits from God himself, Angelic messengers, Urim and Thummin, word-for-word revelation, it goes on and on.
And then Brigham Young takes the helm and much of the constant direct revelation stops. Brigham has to lean on the limited revelation that he receives and process that with the insights he learned from Joseph.
It would be like you or I taking over the Kansas City Chiefs QB position after Patrick Mahomes got injured. It would be a very bumpy ride.
Like Joshua following Moses. Big shoes to fill.
Is it ok for Brigham Young to make some mistakes? Sure. I would have done much worse myself.
Should we be critical and speak evil about him? No.
Should we recognize that he was in a difficult situation? Yeah. Don't candy-coat his history. Recognize it for what it was.
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mikbone reacted to Traveler in NCAAF 12 team playoff
One of the most life changing experiences for me was the military. I grew up loving to hunt. After my military experience, I hardly ever used a firearm, especially for sport. While in the military I excelled in martial arts. The problem is that every move was intended to be lethal. A close friend from the military came to visit while I was attending BYU. He was better than me and the times and circumstances were such that we hurt some fellows quite badly that were recreational martial artists. I do not enjoy watching the sport of martial arts. I would personally prefer to get beat up rather than be triggered for sport or even self defense.
Not all see life through the experience of my eyes. I still cycle and ski, but I am an old guy. Every year my abilities decline. Most that I use to ride with and ski with can no longer participate. I try to remain calm during BYU sporting events, but it is difficult for me. The only way that I can guarantee to remain calm is to check out the final score and if BYU won – then I can calmly watch the game and appreciate the efforts from both teams.
The Traveler
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mikbone got a reaction from MrShorty in NCAAF 12 team playoff
BYU will likely win out the rest of the regular season. We saved the weakest for last. Poor Utah, they are 13th in the conference BTW, too far down the list to make it into my screen shot.
I bet Iowa State will lose to Texas Tech or Kansas State or both.
Either Colorado or Kansas State will win out as well. Whoever does will be in the conference championship with us.
We are going to the playoffs!
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mikbone reacted to Ironhold in NCAAF 12 team playoff
Yeah, I keep having to explain to people that we inadvertently managed to turn basketball into a blood sport.
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mikbone reacted to JohnsonJones in NCAAF 12 team playoff
Sports are fun, but I wouldn't say they are the end all to be all.
I, obviously, have the teams I cheer for, and I get very into being a fan of some of them, but at the end of the day it really doesn't matter.
In 1000 years, will it really matter that one team beat another? Is it really that important?
I think too often people want to feel part of a team (even if just as a fan) and glory in beating another bunch of people. They forget that it's actually fun.
Sports that are only about teamwork, struggle, responsibility, and the will to overcome miss the point of what games are...and the reasons for them in my opinion. The reason for the game is to have fun. If a game is no longer fun, I don't think it's worth it anymore.
If the only reason you can have fun in a game is because you get to beat someone, I don't think that makes for a very good learning environment or a very good sport.
There is a thrill to triumph, but anyone who only lives to feel the triumph of a win misses almost 99% of the game. It's about the game (the journey) and the experience of it. If you can only enjoy the end, you've missed the journey.
I think that's for much of life as well. If you are always only anticipating the end of something (such as saving for all your life so that you will be able to be a multimillionaire and retire richly in old age, but are miserable for the rest of it) but never enjoy the journey, I think you are missing out.
Of course, then you have my situation where I now have to work in my old age (or, at least continue to work to retain my standard of living I'm accustomed to, I could retire and live off of less...which is becoming more and more tempting every day) because instead of planning heavily for the future I lived to enjoy the day. The good thing though is I can look back at life and say I tried my best to enjoy what I was blessed with rather than forget to be grateful for what I had then while being miserable because I feared what the future could bring.
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mikbone got a reaction from Traveler in NCAAF 12 team playoff
Sports has been an important part of my life.
Without sports I would not have had the opportunity to become a surgeon.
Without the strength I have obtained by training my body, I would have been less successful repairing fractures and reducing dislocations. Strength is very useful in my profession.
Sports teach responsibility, teamwork, the benefit of struggle, and the will the overcome.
I fell sorry for those who cannot appreciate the joy of sports.
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mikbone reacted to Phoenix_person in Ruben Sandwich
I like ruebens, but I'm not overly fond of sauerkraut (don't tell my great grandfather, he might return from the grave and revoke my German card).
Cubans are where it's at for me. My girlfriend keeps making pulled pork so I'll make Cubans for her. 😅
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mikbone reacted to JohnsonJones in Ruben Sandwich
I love Reubens, but I use corned beef.
I'm not Russian though.
If they use pastrami at restaurants I'm not opposed and still love the reuben.
I am not the type that dislikes Rye bread, swiss cheese, sauerkraut, or Dressings in general.
I had a kid or two that hated tomatoes but loved ketchup. They hated tomatoes so much they'd take them off of their sandwiches and hamburgers and such. Then they'd pile the ketchup (Catsup) on.
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mikbone reacted to Carborendum in Within the Walls of Your Own Home
So, the Lord just smacked me on the side of the head. And He did it in the form of an 18 y.o. boy.
A young man in our ward is getting ready to go on a mission. And he was asked to give the sacrament talk. He quoted (I can't remember the GA) saying, "We serve others to lose ourselves." (paraphrase).
It hit me that I've been looking for some sort of bonus. But I've been missing the point. Service itself is a chance to lose ourselves, and along with it, I can lose all my pretensions and selfishness.
Thing is, I've heard this many times throughout my life. But it just sounded like a platitude. Now I understand it.
This realization comes at a time that I've been reading a book on neuroplasticity. And I've marveled at how this lines up with the principle of humility (being teachable). One puzzle I've been working out is how we can become "plastic" and hope to come out better instead of worse because of that plasticity. And I've been looking for something completely different. I haven't been plastic (humble).
Service is the perfect environment to ensure that whatever plasticity can come will most likely result in a better outcome than a worse one.
That young man who gave that talk was quite impressive. I asked if he wrote it by himself or his parents helped him. He wrote it by himself. I gave him a heart-felt "atta-boy."
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mikbone got a reaction from Phoenix_person in NCAAF 12 team playoff
Sports has been an important part of my life.
Without sports I would not have had the opportunity to become a surgeon.
Without the strength I have obtained by training my body, I would have been less successful repairing fractures and reducing dislocations. Strength is very useful in my profession.
Sports teach responsibility, teamwork, the benefit of struggle, and the will the overcome.
I fell sorry for those who cannot appreciate the joy of sports.
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mikbone got a reaction from NeuroTypical in Ruben Sandwich
Rye bread, Swiss cheese, Pastrami, sauerkraut, Russian dressing.
I like Swiss cheese. But I’m not very fond of rye bread, pastrami, sauerkraut or Russian dressing. But I love a Ruben sandwich. Is that weird? Anyone else have the same experience? Or can you think of something made from items you don’t really care for - that in combination becomes excellent?
And it’s pastrami not corned beef. And Russian not Thousand Island dressing.
Corned beef is Irish. Pastrami originates from Romania. And the Ruben sandwich is a Jewish American dish.
Go figure…
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mikbone reacted to Anddenex in Seeking angels
On my mission my spirit keyed in on the following words from Nephi where he speaks of an angel ministering and teaching him. I also keyed in on Jacob's words declaring angels ministering unto him as a key point as to why his faith would not be shaken by Sherem. We know these two aren't the only ones that were ministered to by angels, and were taught by angels.
As my heart pondered and read these things, I began to seek and pray for the ministering of angels. That I might receive the same experiences, and be provided with experiences so that my faith would not be shaken.
To this day, I have never received these experiences, and the more I ponder this I believe this is the reason why, "Be wise in the days of your probation; strip yourselves of all uncleanness; ask not, that ye may consume it on your lusts, but ask with a firmness unshaken, that ye will yield to no temptation, but that ye will serve the true and living God." (the emphasized portion).
I would say, deep down (at the core of my heart) there was that sliver of pride/lust for this experience. I would also say, we are commanded to pray for all things in our lives. This would include the ministering of angels, and then when we pray we have that one important part of our prayers, "Thy will be done." In that light, we do both, we seek and we leave it up to the Lord how best to respond.
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mikbone got a reaction from LDSGator in NCAAF 12 team playoff
Sports has been an important part of my life.
Without sports I would not have had the opportunity to become a surgeon.
Without the strength I have obtained by training my body, I would have been less successful repairing fractures and reducing dislocations. Strength is very useful in my profession.
Sports teach responsibility, teamwork, the benefit of struggle, and the will the overcome.
I fell sorry for those who cannot appreciate the joy of sports.
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mikbone got a reaction from Vort in NCAAF 12 team playoff
BYU will likely win out the rest of the regular season. We saved the weakest for last. Poor Utah, they are 13th in the conference BTW, too far down the list to make it into my screen shot.
I bet Iowa State will lose to Texas Tech or Kansas State or both.
Either Colorado or Kansas State will win out as well. Whoever does will be in the conference championship with us.
We are going to the playoffs!
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mikbone reacted to LDSGator in NCAAF 12 team playoff
@mikbone-thanks for taking down UCF. They beat up my alma mater 50-3 and acted like they won the Rose Bowl. I went to UNH, and they are much much smaller than any of the other schools down here.
I viewed this game as my more talented cousins coming to teach the bullies a lesson.
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mikbone reacted to LDSGator in NCAAF 12 team playoff
What you fail to understand about 90%of sports fans is that our happiness comes from things other than sports too. I’m a die hard sports fan (everyone probably knows this) and I find happiness everywhere.
When my favorite team loses-and lately my Gators have done terrible, my Rays lack a home field, and my favorite boxer is flirting with being washed up-I get mad/sad for maybe a day or two then I have this remarkable ability to move on.
You’ll find those 10% of fans who live and die by their sports team, can’t get over losses, and act like every loss is Armageddon. I find it a little silly too, but who cares? It’s harmless. No one ever shot up a school over the Bears beating the Seahawks.
To be clear, in my personal life, like when I’m competing in TKD tournaments, I tend to take losses much worse and much more personally. But I don’t take it on my wife, friends and family. I work harder.