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Reminds me of Enos.  
I know darn well that his uncle Nephi and Father Jacob taught him numerous times many details of the gospel.  Surely he had gone to church on a routine basis
Enos 1:4-8
Yet, the knowledge without the spiritual work does not allow one to take advantage of Jesus Christ’s Atonement.
It took Enos a might prayer to gain his testimony, and forgiveness.
All of us must pass a personal test of spiritual work.  
Salvation does not occur via osmosis.
Having a prophet father figure probably helps though.

Reminds me of Enos.  
I know darn well that his uncle Nephi and Father Jacob taught him numerous times many details of the gospel.  Surely he had gone to church on a routine basis
Enos 1:4-8
Yet, the knowledge without the spiritual work does not allow one to take advantage of Jesus Christ’s Atonement.
It took Enos a might prayer to gain his testimony, and forgiveness.
All of us must pass a personal test of spiritual work.  
Salvation does not occur via osmosis.
Having a prophet father figure probably helps though.

Reminds me of Enos.  
I know darn well that his uncle Nephi and Father Jacob taught him numerous times many details of the gospel.  Surely he had gone to church on a routine basis
Enos 1:4-8
Yet, the knowledge without the spiritual work does not allow one to take advantage of Jesus Christ’s Atonement.
It took Enos a might prayer to gain his testimony, and forgiveness.
All of us must pass a personal test of spiritual work.  
Salvation does not occur via osmosis.
Having a prophet father figure probably helps though.

I don't have any immediate thoughts, but I'll add the phrase to my General Conference bingo card.

Recently I remembered hearing a phrase repeated in a couple of Pres Nelson's general conference talks and knowing if a prophet repeats himself it's generally a point of emphasis so I decided to find them and study up on it. That phrase was "spiritual work." So I did a search looking for the two or three talks he says it and was surprised to find out that he has mentioned it in six different talks since becoming president of the church.
"...when you yoke yourself to Jesus Christ and do the spiritual work required to overcome the world, He, and He alone, does have the power to lift you above the pull of this world."
"Please do the spiritual work to increase your capacity to receive personal revelation."
"Do the spiritual work to seek miracles."
"It takes persistent, rigorous spiritual work to repent and to put off the natural man through the Atonement of Jesus Christ."
"Do the spiritual work to find out for yourselves, and please do it now. Time is running out."
"Choose to do the spiritual work required to enjoy the gift of the Holy Ghost and hear the voice of the Spirit more frequently and more clearly."
Now it may not mean anything more than just a phrase he picked up over the years to convey the general idea of living the gospel except that my search did not yield any GC talks prior to his becoming president where he used that phrase. To me it sounds like he is trying to drive home a point. While I interpret the general meaning behind the phrase to be a general rejection of the idea of what some call cheap grace and that we cannot simply be spectators in the gospel it does make me wonder if there is a particular concern he is addressing that perhaps did not always exist in the past. Any thoughts?

May you run out of hot water just as you step in the shower
 
 Curse you Vort!

Thanks for the response.  
This point of view is kinda why I made this post.  
The new evangelical Christ marketing catch phrase, “He gets us.”  Absolutely drives me nuts.
Yup, He gets us.  But so does Satan.
Do we get him?  When we take the Sacrament we commit to witness him.  How can you witness him if you don’t know him.  Isn’t it imperative to know who He is?  
Joseph Smith - “It is the first principle of the Gospel to know (with) a certainty the character of God, and to know that we (can) converse with Him as one man converses with another."

Why didn't you ask about Pinochle?  I said shoot the moon.

This is what the government shows me for my options. 
Im hoping the the 2nd coming occurs prior to Social Security failure.

Thanks for the response.  
This point of view is kinda why I made this post.  
The new evangelical Christ marketing catch phrase, “He gets us.”  Absolutely drives me nuts.
Yup, He gets us.  But so does Satan.
Do we get him?  When we take the Sacrament we commit to witness him.  How can you witness him if you don’t know him.  Isn’t it imperative to know who He is?  
Joseph Smith - “It is the first principle of the Gospel to know (with) a certainty the character of God, and to know that we (can) converse with Him as one man converses with another."

Not sure what he learned.
More like, “Oh yeah I recall saying that to Moses.”

How intelligent do you think he was?
I’m betting at least 300 IQ.
Likely learned egyptian listening to it as a baby, Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic.  But had gift of tongues so fluent in all languages.
At age 12 he astounded the priests at the temple.  Knew that Elohim was his father.  Likely recollection of the pre-existence.
I’m fairly certain he could read minds.

The house totally freaked me out.  10,000 sq ft, dark, cluttered, empty rooms, safe room.
Gave me a H. H. Holmes vibe.
Good thing I wasn’t the police officer that showed up on her porch with her claiming her attorney is on the phone.
Also, not an influencer fan.

The Washington County Attorney’s Office released a lot of its evidence in the case last week, and gave interviews to 20/20, which did an episode on it.  First ten minutes are on YouTube:
Incidentally, Ruby’s “torture journal” mentions that Hildebrandt had met with Brad Wilcox (counselor in YM General Presidency) and Elder Jaggi (of the 70).  Which has the Reddit and exmo crowd gleefully offering all kinds of speculation and conspiracy theories.  
Glad I’m not doing PR for the Church this month.  

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I brought it up because when we are in theological discussions we need to be careful about the statement- "I'll believe what the Prophets have said." as a sort of trump card- because the mortal men who have served as prophets and Apostles have said lots of things. I'm glad they don't really speculate or relate the personal musings from the stand anymore.

As I've begun, for the first time, to read the Journal of Discourses, I have come across tidbits that are helping me to erase any assumptions I may have had about eternity and progression. My ultimate answer? I just don't know but God is really, really merciful- I trust Him.

This is what the government shows me for my options. 
Im hoping the the 2nd coming occurs prior to Social Security failure.

John 14
1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

John 14
1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

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Me and all my colleagues request that this nonsense stop.
Past the age of 60 you are better off taking up this sporty ride.

 

Full circle.

Me and all my colleagues request that this nonsense stop.
Past the age of 60 you are better off taking up this sporty ride.

 

Me and all my colleagues request that this nonsense stop.
Past the age of 60 you are better off taking up this sporty ride.

 

And just like that, now I want to eat the rich.