pooter1

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  1. Just a guy, I kind of thought that it showed that no one is perfect.This is the conversation I just had with my son. The gospel is true and it is run by imperfect people.This just shows investigators that we don't believe we are perfect. And this WAS the advice forum wasn't it? I did feel guilty but I had a really really good day with my family. Im still feeling kind of guilty it is sooooo easy for me to question everything and feel guilty about anything big and small. I know I do have problems. Thanks to everyone again for helping me.You have helped me several times.Im thankful I have somewhere to go to ask questions.I don't have a lot of confidence and it takes hearing from other points of view to get me thinking and changing my mind. One more thing.I am a member but you have no idea how much of an investigator I am.
  2. We stayed home. Why do I feel so guilty?
  3. Let me re word this whole thing.Im not good with words. On our ward website we were told that there would be church today along with warnings that you could get a ticket from the police . My question is Do you follow your leader or do you follow the law?Hope that is better and not as offensive. I really am trying to understand this. Are we not suppose to follow the law of the land?
  4. Did you not read my post? We DID call the police. Its all over the local news,facebook and radio. Its not a facebook status its from the police where I live.
  5. So I live in an area where we have had a lot of snow. Today the police have put us in a level 1 emergency according to facebook. You will get a ticket if you are caught driving in it. We call the police to verify this and they tell us this is true.I put it on facebook to warn people. Our Bishop gets on our ward facebook and tells everyone "The roads are fine we will have all our meetings" Do we not have to obey the law anymore or just the ones we want to. Trying to wrap my head around this. What about obeying the law of the land???? Im so confused.
  6. Pam I have never needed one...till now.
  7. The sizing was changed just recently. I called them 3 times for help. I kept apologizing to them.They were extremely nice.I have never in my life used a tape measure.I just want to see what pants size i wear and order.They said they can't tell with what size I wore before that it was all different. I wear a 2x in pants but with the new chart I wear a 4x so I couldn't get through my head that I was doing something wrong and was worried about buying without being for sure. Does nothing for my self esteem for my garment size of 4x.lol
  8. Any of you ladies having trouble with the new garment sizing? I have no idea what size I wear.You have to measure yourself and go by a chart.I don't even own a tape measure. I have worn the same size garments for years and they go and change everything to where I don't understand how to order underwear!!! lol
  9. Perfectly said Eowyn.I read it twice. That made sense to me.Thank you.
  10. Something that came to my mind last night was maybe the money they make off this mall will go to help the poor and the needy.Im not talking about just giving money to the poor but maybe it will be able to help build schools or even be able to create other jobs in other countries.I had never thought of that before. Thank you everyone for putting ideas in my head and making me think more on this. I have read the talks that you have sent and pondered on everything you have said to me. Its funny but by reading what you say to me I know your personalities and know your compassion to help others and I thank you so much. I want to believe.I have a desire to believe and a desire to keep the commandments.The world and satan gets in my way and I can wander so easily. Thank you once again.
  11. Eowyn, It was more how am I gonna make ends meet rather than whats in it for me. I don't know why I believed paying my tithing would help me pay my bills. I heard testimony after testimony"I don't know how but my bills are always paid at the end of the month" or "A check I hadn't been expecting showed up in the mail" Im guessing it was the testimonies and stories I had heard others say.I don't think its doctrine is it? You know what helped us pay our bills? My kids growing up and I finally got a job because for whatever other reason I thought I was suppose to stay home and raise my kids. How did I get so messed up in my beliefs or what I thought they were. Maybe I better start with the discussions again and re learn this religon.I feel so stupid now. The church is the most correct but not perfect.The church does not guarantee happiness.Paying tithing does not mean your bills will be paid. My thought process all these years has been so messed up.Am I the only one ?
  12. I am aware now Pam. I just wonder what made me think it did.
  13. Sorry Skippy.I guess you did answer that question.My bad. I guess for me and my situation its hard to see tithing going to education and beautiful temples when you look at your own house falling apart and juggling bills. We were just informed that my husband will not get any kind of raise this coming year. Somewhere someone taught me that paying your tithing would bring blessings. I think I was thinking I would be blessed financially and I guess that is not true but is still a commandment and I still have the desire to keep the commandment.
  14. One more thing.No one answered my question about for profit businesses.How does the church pay for those? Where does that money come from? My husband didn't know.
  15. Leah, The way you put your comment is exactly why I don't post here anymore. Im not stating anything.In my post I asked Is this true? Meaning I don't know.Im asking questions. Don't be on the defense.Is this the way you talk to people who have questions about the church? I go to another forum and those people have never ever made me feel bad about what I post. I have questions. I don't know the answers thats why Im asking. Thank you to everyone else who tried to help me and change my mind about things.Your right paying your tithing is a commandment and where ever it goes is none of my business.(Thanks to my husband for helping out last night with that one) I know Im obeying and that should be all that I need to worry about. AND before Leah had so LOVINGLY told me about taxes for other colleges,that had come to my mind last night before going to bed and I felt better and it does help others.Just having a bad day I guess and things enter my mind that shouldn't.
  16. I also need to add that my son did not get into BYU.His grades were B's and C's. He did get into BYU Idaho but that is not where he wanted to go. If Im going to pay for something I want to be able to use it. I use the Church and the Temple so I feel like I should be able to use anything I spend my money on. Am I being selfish?
  17. We have 3 boys in our ward that made it into BYU and it was all their mothers that told me this. It just bugs me that my tithing money is being used to help others get an education when my children are struggling to get any kind of work they can. Im paying for someone's kid but not mine. I know that paying tithing is a commandment but its bothering me where it goes. Does anyone know who pays for the for profit businesses? Also, if this mall was 3 billion dollars why didn't it go to feeding the poor.We could have fed a whole country!! I just don't feel right inside.Something is not right.
  18. Who paid for the for profit businesses? You have to get straight A's to get into BYU not every kid can benefit from it. Thanks for giving me some direction in this Pam.
  19. I hardly come here anymore.Im always scared of being put down, people not understanding what Im trying to ask and then I leave here feeling horrible. Here is my question. Does the tithing I pay go to just building churches and Temples? I recently found out about a mall that the church purchased and its was 3 billion dollars. I have heard that tithing money was not spent but some where at some time someones tithing was spent? Right? Where did they get the money if it wasn't from tithing?It didn't just appear. My second question is: Is the reason BYU is so cheap is because tithing money is spent on it? This makes me feel horrible if this is true because I couldn't afford to send my kids to college but I helped someone else kid go.Please someone tell me none of this is true. Im on the very edge of becoming a non believer.Things are coming up in my head that are not making sense to me anymore.
  20. Pam you are right.I don't comprehend like others do. When Vort told it in a different way a lightbulb flickered on for me and understanding of why came to my mind. I feel so much better about this then I did a day ago.
  21. Its just what Vort.said.A different way of communicating.We are not from this world.The temple is Gods home.he talks to us a different way.A way we are probably use to in his world. The article I read helped a lot on WHY there is so much symbolism.Here is an excerpt from it that kind of hit home.“Symbols are the universal tongue. … Symbols bring color and strength to language, while deepening and enriching our understandings. Symbols enable us to give conceptual form to ideas and emotions that may otherwise defy the power of words. They take us beyond words and grant us eloquence in the expression of feelings. Symbolic language conceals certain doctrinal truths from the wicked and thereby protects sacred things from possible ridicule. At the same time, symbols reveal truth to the spiritually alert. “… Symbols are the language in which all gospel covenants and all ordinances of salvation have been revealed. From the time we are immersed in the waters of baptism to the time we kneel at the altar of the temple with the companion of our choice in the ordinance of eternal marriage, every covenant we make will be written in the language of symbolism.” 2 Now that I feel a little better on why maybe I will start learning this language.
  22. Vort, Are you saying that it is a different way to communicate? Your music analogy helps me a little to understand why. that makes sense to me.An Alien would not understand music the way we understand it.They would be from a different world and have different ways of learning .We are learning heavenly ways of doing things.This makes sense to me of why! Thanks Vort! Draven Im getting ready to read the article right now. ill get back on what I thought.
  23. Yes I have!!!!! Without saying specific things that Im not suppose to say.If you do understand then thats great for you! Oh how I wish I could understand what it all means.Why we do certain things in the temple?? I already stated the things I do understand in the temple.That is it.Thats all I understand.My question is why doesn't god just tell us what he wants us to know.Why do we have to guess what this means and what that means. I still haven't had that answered yet.Does anyone know? Same thing about parables.Just tell me what you need to tell me. Drives me nuts. I guess I shouldn't have stated that I don't understand a thing because I do understand a few things.Only most of it I don't understand.
  24. Been thinking about why I do not enjoy going to the temple. I do not understand a thing thats going on. Why is it so symbolic? Why do we have to guess whats going on? Why not just tell us?? Why is it a guessing game? I want to understand.I want to enjoy going. Every time I go I leave feeling confused and very cultish.Ive been a member all my life and have been to the temple many times. The only parts I do get is baptism for the dead and being sealed and the covenants we make. The rest freaks me out! I guess I won't be held accountable for not going if I don't understand it. Why not just tell us!!!??
  25. From one who has suffered depression all of her life. Hang on!!! Go to church,pray,stay close to church members(home teachers,go to activities) The gospel will ease the pain.Do not consider suicide. You have no idea the how many will suffer from it.My fiance killed himself years ago.I have seen so many lives destroyed by his action including me. My life has never ever been the same since it happened. Get help from counselors,get on meds if you have to.There is always something better coming along. Stay close to Heavenly Father!!