desirexnoel

Visiting a friend today, and I will be late if I don't leave like now pretty much. I will check back later.

Post number #357 . Answer the questions. Thank you.

Post number #357 Respond please. Don't ignore.

Did you ignore all of my posts with my questions? Questions that usually logically point to the conclusions most of us draw? Please go back and get it, because I am not reposting it for you.

I know. There are actually MANY in many forums I am sure with his beliefs. I actually know a lot about the difference between their beliefs and the beliefs of someone who only obtains knowledge from church sources. I was one who only obtained knowledge from church sources, which is why he is making little sense to me in regard to what LDS as a whole believe.

Again, I have no clue when. n_n

Thank you! Sometimes I wonder what everyone else is seeing. I am glad to know it is the same things I am.

I was taught a separation had occurred although I don't know when. I learnt it in geography class too. I think it was called Pangea or something like that.

There are so many little faces...

Who exalted him? So why didn't he have to worship his father? I'll give you that one, but it clearly shows more then one which is actually the topic of the thread, so I am still kinda on topic... more so then this worshiping topic... Is that not how God became God? Does this not include worship? Who was he obedient to? Again, did he not have to worship that being? This kind of ties a lot of points together, but I will admit that it is probably closer to the original topic.

1) "God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp. 345-347) 2) "John discovered that God the Father of Jesus Christ had a Father, you may suppose that He had a Father also. Where was there ever a son without a father? And where was there ever a father without first being a son?" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Page 373, see also Mormon Doctrine, by Bruce R. McConkie, Page 577; Doctrines of Salvation, by Bruce R. McConkie, Page 97-98; History of the Church, by Joseph Smith, vol. 6, Page 476-477) 3) "And then the Lord said: Let us go down. And they went down at the beginning, and they, that is the Gods, organized and formed the heavens and the earth. And the earth, after it was formed, was empty and desolate, because they had not formed anything but the earth; and darkness reigned upon the face of the deep, and the Spirit of the Gods was brooding upon the face of the waters. And they (the Gods) said: Let there be light; and there was light." (Abraham 4:1-3) 4) "We must seek earnestly to obey every covenant that we make in the temple. The Lord has said that if we are true and faithful, we will pass by the angels to our exaltation. We will become gods. (Gospel Principles, page 245, see also D&C 132:19–20.) 5) "As shown in this chapter, our Father in heaven was once a man as we are now, capable of physical death. By obedience to eternal gospel principles, he progressed from one stage of life to another until he attained the state that we call exaltation or godhood. In such a condition, he and our mother in heaven were empowered to give birth to spirit children whose potential was equal to that of their heavenly parents. We are those spirit children." (Achieving a Celestial Marriage p 132) 6) "Those who receive exaltation in the celestial kingdom through faith in Jesus Christ will receive special blessings. The Lord has promised, “All things are theirs” (D&C 76:59). These are some of the blessings given to exalted people: 1. They will live eternally in the presence of Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ (see D&C 76). 2. They will become gods. 3. They will have their righteous family members with them and will be able to have spirit children also. These spirit children will have the same relationship to them as we do to our Heavenly Father. They will be an eternal family. 4. They will receive a fulness of joy. 5. They will have everything that our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ have—all power, glory, dominion, and knowledge. President Joseph Fielding Smith wrote: “The Father has promised through the Son that all that he has shall be given to those who are obedient to his commandments. They shall increase in knowledge, wisdom, and power, going from grace to grace, until the fulness of the perfect day shall burst upon them” (Doctrines of Salvation, 2:36)." (Gospel Principles, page 302)

Lol. Maybe, but that would make the whole steak renegade. Those crazies Almost makes me wanna go back knowing they are fighting conformity!

Did they not change the word "white" in the BoM to "pure" in the 1980's (I think) to hide old beliefs as to how blacks came to be? I know it isn't the same thing, but it kinda messes with your point there a little if you ask me.

XD Just making sure. I wasn't sure if I would get a message from a moderator for it or not.

I am talking about in church. My particular chapel didn't record and publish all of their meetings. When I was in the church I was pretty much confined to the scriptures and New Era and what was said in church for my information because my dad was very strict as to where I got it. I wasn't allowed to search the web for it (but did anyway). I knew people like you in High School. We called them "bullies" back then.