fireshark

nah Jon i got the idea, and I didn't say there wasn't a beggining, i just stated that 100 bilions years for us is like "eternal"...i understand what you mean, still speculation isn't going to give us salvation :)

jon i'll tell you later...marts1 something that has a begining doesn't need to have an end... Christ said: I am the begining and the end, the alfa and the omega...what he really ment? ^^ (I know the answer, don't bother giving it ) I believe there could actually be a begining, if we go eternally to the past...and there's actually an end for some of us...those who will not marry, they're kingdom will end there so...if we go [eternal] years to the future, and we create a world for our children, we existed for all the eternity for them, as we begined [eternal] years in the past and will be there for all eternity... but main question: Does this knowledge really matters? not at all, so let's party and be happy....because being mormon is being happy jon, as my speculation: there's a theory that says that when we hit the speed of light the time freezes, based on some tests at high speed, in which a clock travelling in a "car" at high speed (over 400km/h) "moved slowlier" than the one outside... As we see, God always appears with light...catching up the idea? funny way to think about it, I like using science to prove God, which actually is happening a lot but whatever... Sorry if it wasn't that "great" for you, but as a future Bio engineer, I really like science (but God first of course)

start writing down the question so when we meet him we'll ask him...as gabelpa said he already existed, because it could not be created...but how? this can mean the same as the Lavoisier rule states: "nothing can be created, nothing can be lost. I can only be transformed" So, the matter to "create" God already existed, but he actually didn't...the matter was transformed into the baby spirit as stated by John..It's a funny way to see it but...we'll never know while we are mortals, and let's keep the speculation as an interesting way of seeing this stuff...not as doctrine... I got a cool theory about how God is in his kingdom (near Colobe) and then shows up here who wants to know? (another funny speculation) :)

and if you can "convince" them about going to seminary, do not ever lack...not going to the seminary after that would give them the right to forbid you from doing other church stuff. Talk to them wide and open, tell them this will you grow as a man, it will make you mature and it will help you doing the right choices in the rest of the day...even if they're not members they will want what is best for you, so just tell them it will help you being a good boy ^^

My "boss" as a seminary teacher, when he was stake presidente he used to teach: "For good family relations, for happiness within the family you need to do the simple things: pray with your family sutdy scriptures with your family family meetings attend to church and since the worl is ending real soon (we can see that pretty well), let's give our last effort in keeping in between the line

I actually have a different experience of the seminary, as I am in Portugal and I was the only person from my branch atending to the classes...and my mother was the teacher...or my sister (while she was here until she went on her mission). I can still remember the seminary activities we had, they were kinda different from what I heard of USA, that motivated me a lot. I can assure you that the scripture mastery was way important for me in school, as I was the only member there, everytime the subject hitted "religion" I had to be the "religious guy", and every question they made was easily answered by the scripture mastery's scriptures... As my mother was my teacher she would usually say: you have two choices: or you come here and sit with me and have the class, or you don't...I will be blessed for preparing this lesson, I will learn with it, I will have more knowledge...I'm not giving you this lesson tomorrow, this is for your salvation and I will not force you to come, but remember that you will not be saved if I do the things and you don't. May God bless you and help you choosing, do as Moroni told you to, pray and ask if it is good to come to seminary...and then read joshua 1:9. As a seminary teacher, and as a future missionary (actually not that future, I hope my calling comes in 2 weeks lol), I do know that seminary is important, and it is a guide through young age... ps. not a sweet lds girl for sure, but i know some lol

Now it is my time to comment. As the others, I'm not in the school anymore, waiting for my mission call so lol. From 11 to 18 I only had 1 LDS friend atending my school during year, that is 11-12...I had to "fight the world" from 12 to 18...I wasn't always the best example for the others, as I went through a "rebellion" part, but nothing they really knew... What did I needed to keep going and doing the right choices? The bad example of my father (which is dead) helped me, choosing the right friends, helped me...I remember having only 2 friends (real friends) from 12-16, one was a geek, that know's the church and has gone to some church activities, he's quite a cool guy...the other one wasn't that good, but while being with me he wasn't that bad either...there is an experience I want to share: after 5 years being sorrounded of that unhealthy and unholy people, one day I was on the football field, I can't remember why we started arguing, but I remember saying one word, only one word...I sweard for ths first time in my life, they didn't notice because I didn't say it too loud and also because it was normal to them...like 10 minutes later, the "geek boy", my friend Peter looked at me surprised and dissapointed and said: "dude, you sweard"...I can still remember the feeling I had, I never did that again but everytime I looked at him (he was from my class from 11 to 18) I could remember his face, he was there for me, looking at me...he actually noticed when I failed and didn't ever want to fail again. He is not a member but I hope he will be someday, as he already knows so much of the church and accepts it. lizzy12, I can assure you the life will be hard, but if it wasn't...would it be worth the effort? "Do the right which is hard, not the wrong which is easy", that was written in one of my t-shirts (from seminary). Attend to seminary classes, I'm a teacher now and I know how spiritual they are when you want them to be. Always be an example, people will notice you're different. Have a backup plan, when you're feeling "away from the right things" turn on your mp3 and listen to EFY songs, call the spirit...do as the people in Helam did (I don't know if that's the name in English, I'm sorry...Mosiah 21 or close), pray in your heart...it won't be easy everyday, you will probably fail...but that's the beauty of this gospel, we are not perfect, but we can repent and keep trying...(do not count on the repenting thingy everytime tho lol) I think I already talked to much so... ETTE

The other day during sunday meetings a member said "being mormon is out of style" and is quite true...But being a mormon is being happy... modesty...truelly gone, but I see some girls here (Portugal) which used to leave modesty behind and nowadays they encounter an issue that bothers them: guys only look at their body, and not the person inside it...they got tired and now dress with modesty... that will continue happen over and over again...To tell you the truth, never thought that modesty would be a problem for the us, men...wearing a t-shirt and jeans wasn't that hard...it was normal...looks like our uncle satan could find a way to hit us modest is the hottest ^^

I would say, don't do anything to her that SHE might feel uncomfortable with. We have a really funny president of the seminary (in our country), he used to say that the problem with kissing, wasn't really kissing...ok kissing could mean a lot, it could take us to unwishing paths...yet! the big problem was the "octopus arms" ^^...he passed by a couple of non members, kissing...he said he could not understand wether it was his arms, or if the guy had 4 arms....truth is that we make our dates better, never had a complaint...want to know why? We don't make it phisic, we make it emotional, and as our former prophet said: "when we get old, talking will be all our relationship, find yourself someone you can talk". But as I always said, experience is good, is necessary...but not always, what you fear, avoid.

Answering again, updating a bit...as a seminary teacher, with a small class (for my country is quite big...8 students is a great thing and challenging thing for me), I've encountered some different dificulties in each one of them... One of the girls one day said to me that pornography didn't really affected her, her bro (not a member) had a lot of it in his computer and while she was using it she passed by it...it made her sick, not what she was looking, but knowing her brother was looking at stuff like that...but she just closed and continued with whatever she was doing.... this is an extreme example, ok whatever, she shouldn't see it I know, the thing is, we are affected by different things...that's for: watching a movie that is immoral...it can be immoral in so different ways: have dirty jokes have nudity have racial content for me, it depends on each person, not "what is immoral to me?" but "what affects me?"...even moral stuff can affect us... as I said, my opinion

suposedly is not teached in primary...as it is for the youth, we're talking about 12-18 ym/yw... I heard about this over and over again....in a year, we had lessons of it enough times not to forget about any of the "rules"...1 week, 1 lesson, 1 "rule"...when we ended that, we kept on with the program....it was trully helpful

Well, that is kinda my opinion...If you are tempted to do something wrong, that thing is a weakness for you...so you must stay even more aware of that thing...but maybe you can perfectly do another thing that is not as tempting for you as that one...and that doesn't apply to me, who feels tempted with another thing, completely different from yours... I don't if I made myself clear...but I always thought that self control was #1...of course we cannot rely on ourselves, but we must know our limits....but that is MY opinion:)

I saw a person called "one_with_questions"...well I'm one_with_answers I'm a seminary teacher in Portugal, 18 yo, and getting ready for my mission. Found this forum and decided to register, maybe I'll find some interesting stuff in here:) Hope I can help in everything I'm capable of. I trully believe in this church, I do since I was a kid and had the right to choose wether to be baptised or not:p Have fun guys:rolleyes: