TheJoker

Human element yes. But these are supposed to be prophets of god. Shouldn't they be leading the way to make the world a better and fairer place? Google it. Check it has a reasonable source. Think about it from a reasonable level. Don't just assume it's nonsense or it will automatically have no value to you. If i apologise to someone. I don't just say reasons why i did the thing which was bad. The civil war was before DOM. Think about that. Not hard to know eventually black people would have the same freedom and rights as White people. Does it not? It seems like JS had no problem with black people having the Priesthood. But BY did. So if a prophet does something...the next prophet can say it is wrong? And weirdly enough. Every so often the prophet is sustained as a prophet, seer and revelator. Seer meaning: 1. a person who can supposedly see into the future; prophet 2. a person who professes supernatural powers 3. a person who sees So yes, Mormon prophets if they are genuinally Seer's, should have been trying to speed up the equal rights of black people in the gospel and in the world. As they can 'see' that it is going to be a good thing which will happen and it should happen asap. Revelator: # (n.) That which is revealed. 1. That which is revealed by God to man; esp., the Bible. 2. Specifically, the last book of the sacred canon, containing the prophecies of St. John; the Apocalypse. 3. The act of revealing divine truth. 4. The act of revealing, disclosing, or discovering to others what was before unknown to them. Two revelations have been revealed in the church. The revelation of black people being able to hold the priesthood. And Polygamy not being practiced anymore. Both of these 'Revelations' were reversing JS 'Revelations' and seemed to have been made when the church was being criticised or threatened because of them.

Because they have very different ideas on what was before and what will be after this life.

Well. If Jesus did truly exist. And so everything people believe. He showed some pretty convincing evidence. But nowadays. Nono. It would never happen.

Wouldn't you expect the one true church to be leading the way on equal rights? Okay. Look it up. Almost sounds like they are dodging an apology. And saying that is just trying to dodge saying "We were wrong for many decades." Seemed to help speed up the prophecy then. There is evidence that Joseph Smith actually baptised and confirmed the Priesthood on two black people. The whole black people not being allowed to hold the Priesthood seems to have started with Brigham Young.

Because besides the belief in Christ. There is a big difference between Christian beliefs and LDS beliefs. I think being a Christian is than just the belief in Christ. I think it has a lot to do with beliefs of what happened before and what happens after this life. But thats my own opinion. . I don't think i know too much about that to give a reasonable answer. In that case they do not believe Jesus Christ to be an actual person. Hense they don't believe in Christ being a seperate person. Perhaps. Who knows. Good. Imo it is beyond anyone's pay grade. But that's my own opinion. I guess the question what makes a Christian is hard to come to a solid conclusion on. I for one though do not see why LDS members would want to make sure they are under the Christian banner.

'We' don't know anything. 'You' believe something. Jesus was perfect. So that doesn't matter as his wisdom would already be pretty much better than any other in human existance. Joseph on the other hand is different. I guess it's what you believe his chuldhood consisted of. Joseph on the other hand is different. I guess it's what you believe his chuldhood consisted of. The same is true for life in general. But it's not always the case.

Why not? Many other religions had already accepted black people as equal. No more than any other religious group. That is the same now. Many people in the south still are racist. This is totally different from the restored gospel though. This is allowing black men to have the same authority and power as white men. How do you know this? The church was pretty much the last major religion to allow black people the same rights in the church. If they hadn't have finally let it happen. It would have turned very bad for the LDS members. I disagree So have I. None of them have ever made an apology on behalf of the church for allowing this to happen for 150ish years. Doesn't make it any more credible that it was an actual revelation. I disagree. I think the ban was lifted or the church would have been labled a racist group. If there was a church like that today. It would definatly be labled as such. Doesn't add to the credibility it was a revelation. Again. I disagree.

Talk to your parents. Try and see it from there side. And then they will hopefully do the same with you. But if you can. You need a healthy relationship with your parents.

I'm not bothered that their was a time when black people couldn't hold the priesthood. As we have learned from the mistakes of all the racism that was involved decades ago. I just do not understand two thing: 1. The LDS church was the last major religion to give black members the same exact rewards and blessings of being a member than any other major religion. 2. Brigham Young's clear racism. Say what you want. But Brigham Young said some things about Black people which was totally out of line.

Interesting if it turns out to be true.

Not really. It's just one of those things that people 'assume' to be fact. 1. I assume that Scientists are not all over the age of 50. 2. Stephen Hawking is not the oldest man in the world. But the smartest. And as for Wisdom. Wisdom comes from experience. But assuming that age = more wisdom is simply not true. My Granded has had many experiences. But is a clear racist. That come from Wisdom?

Stop Attacking me! Funnily enough. They do. You just can't seem to see it.

The point is there. Maybe i didn't explain it too well. Doesn't mean it's not there. It's 4:30am here So give me a break.

I'll leave this discussion now. My argument wasn't meant to be children not knowing at 8. But all members being baptized at an age where they all would be ready. Such as 12. But in any case. I can't seem to express my opinion without attacking someone. Goodnight.

Just like any addiction. Mental or physical. If the person really wants to stop doing it. They'll stop.