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  1. mdfxdb

    Temple work for excommunicated

    Citation is letter from first presidency upon request of dissolution of temple sealing. They make you return the letter, so I don't have it anymore. Church tracks excommunicated members. They have a system, and formal written letter must be sent to request clearance.
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    Temple work for excommunicated

    "The church affirms that marriage between a man and a woman is essential to the Creator's plan for the eternal destiny of His children........ Sexual relations between persons of the same gender are sinful and undermine the divinely created institution of the family. The Church accordingly affirms defining marriage as the legal and lawful union between a man and a woman." - Handbook Excommunication is not automatic for same gender marriages. It is only automatic for Murder, and almost always required for incest. Typically excommunication is reserved for those who commit grievous sins, including violation of temple covenants, and are not repentant. First presidency approval is required to perform temple ordinances for deceased persons, who at the time of their death were excommunicated or had their names removed from Church membership records. If biological children were born in the covenant, then they do not require subsequent sealing. If their parents got divorced, and had their sealing cancelled, then the children are not sealed to the mother anymore.
  3. On judgement day presumably he will be in the presence of our Savior, and will feel nothing but compassion and the pure love of Christ towards his wife. No shadows there, she visited her bishop, and fully repented, so nothing to shout about. She is and was under no obligation to disclose either incident to her boyfriend/fiance. If her conscience is bothering her, then she should visit with her bishop, or seek professional counseling. In what way was it wrong of her to keep her prior previously confessed and forgiven transgressions from her boyfriend? Repentance does not include telling him about that stuff. Yes it will upset him. What benefit to the relationship is there in that? How will it bring them closer? Her need to "clear" her conscience might be considered a selfish act which will leave nothing but pain and hurt in it's wake. The OP needs to figure this out for herself and forgive herself, but not involve her husband. Again, this might involve professional counseling.
  4. Whatever you do don't tell him. You went through the proper channels, repented, and found forgiveness. Now you need to forget about it. That isn't your life anymore, and there is no benefit in telling your husband about it. If he wasn't happy that you told him about the first one, believe me, he wont be happy about the second one. He will be mad that you did it, and mad that you didn't come clean to him about it, and upset because he will suspect there is more you aren't divulging. Do you really want to relive something for which you have been forgiven of? You do not need your husbands forgiveness on this one. It's over. Time to put on the big girl panties and move forward.
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    I want to sleep nakieeee

    Here is your answer: "It is expected that members will wear the garment both night and day, according to covenants made in the temple. Members should not adjust the garment or wear it contrary to instructions in order to accommodate different styles of clothing, even when such clothing may be generally accepted. The garment should not be removed either entirely or partially, to work in the yard or for other activities that can reasonably be done with the garment worn properly beneath the clothing. Members who have made covenants in the temple should be guided by the Holy Spirit to answer for themselves personal questions about wearing the garment. These sacred covenants are between the member and the Lord, and the proper wearing of the garment is an outward expression of an inner commitment to follow the Savior Jesus Christ." I agree with Omega. The answer to your question is do not sleep naked if you are endowed.
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    My friend screamed at by primary president

    not enough info to give a proper reply. We can only speculate as to what is going on.
  7. OP, how old are you? Why is this so important now? It looks like you've posted a lot on this topic of marriage.
  8. OP. do you have a link to the original article? I am of the opinion that women should not compromise their values by marrying outside of the faith.
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    What would you do?

    Agree, but OP only mentions church on Sundays, so in his case once would be sufficient, as long as it is Sunday morning.
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    What would you do?

    I don't really understand either of your posts, but here is my 2 cents: If you want people to leave you alone, by all means continue to not shower or be clean. Really work on your smell, and the whole hermit thing will work out just fine. If you want to have people talk to you and interact with you, then take a shower once a week and put on clean clothes. Sunday would be the day for this. So the real question becomes "what do you want?"
  11. OP You need to move out of your parents home. In fact, you need to move out of your city, and county. If your location is accurate, then you are close to nowhere. You have an education, and need to move where there are jobs for people with educations. Don't make excuses. Take whatever savings you have, move to Houston, or Utah, or LA (one way ticket), make a deposit on an apartment, and find a job. It will be incredibly motivating for you to have to make rent next month. If you don't move, then you will be stuck with a lifetime of excuses.
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    Service Dog question...

    You're missing the point. Omega isn't stating that disability is a sin. Not at all. He is stating that knowingly engaging in a selfish act is a sin. If I knowingly take a risk which will inconvenience, or endanger myself or others just because I want to participate in an activity, then one could argue I am making a selfish decision. On a legal note, if something were to happen to this person while they were in the temple, and the temple denied them access to their service animal, then perhaps there is grounds for a lawsuit. Anyone with $500 can sue anyone for anything rightly or wrongly. Doesn't matter that Religious institutions are exempt from the ADA. Throw a dead person in front of a jury because they couldn't take their dog to church, and see how much sympathy you get.
  13. Have you had professional counseling to help you deal with your ex-wife's death, and your prior marriage/divorce? If so, then good and get some more. If not I suggest you put off your marriage to your fiance, until you are in a more emotionally stable position. Your comments about the 4th party and the 1st presidency denote a certain amount of pride that should not be present during this process. The policies of the church exist for a reason, even if we don't like them.
  14. Go see your bishop. Come clean with your husband. Take the consequences like a grown up. You knew what you were getting into, now it's time to face the music. Likely outcomes are varied depending on both your level of repentance (as far as church discipline), divorce will be in play since you committed adultery. Your husband will have much to say on the matter. If divorce becomes a serious topic, then get an attorney and make sure you and your kids are taken care of. Don't discount your culpability...
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    Marrying a Non Member

    I would agree with others who state that your way of thinking is backwards. I would number 1-3 in that order as pre-requisites to even dating someone seriously. You may or may not believe it, but you marry who you date. If you do not have strict criteria for that person prior to serious dating, then you are setting yourself up for disappointment, and pain in the future. Even when all criteria are met, marriages don't work out. It would seem imprudent to go in a direction where your odds of success in eternity are even further diminished. Love is great and all, but I've never been able to pay the rent with love, never been able to make a car payment, go on vacation or support my loved ones monetarily, or spiritually with "love". True love as described by one of the earlier posters transcends all of the Disney princess fairy tales. Who cares how comparable you are when items 1-3 aren't checked? Even Charlie Manson managed to get women to fall in love with him.
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    Religious vs cultural Mormonism

    Not sure what you are trying to prove with the above. I think Omega is saying that not all general conference talks are scripture/doctrine. I think you are saying the church is run by committee. Your quotes are great, but we are a theocracy, and the Prophet is the only person who is authorized to posses and exercise all priesthood keys. There have been no fundamental doctrinal changes or scriptural changes for a very long time. The most recent change with the organization of the Elders Quorum is an inspired policy change, and a good example of inspired policy vs. doctrine/scripture.
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    Religious vs cultural Mormonism

    The 14 points speech is interesting. it has been used in/referenced heavily in general conference several times. I have problems with the speech as presented. First, as Omega pointed out, he wasn't the prophet at the time. Second, the speech was given at BYU to a select audience, and probably not given with the contextual understanding that it would be disseminated as "doctrine" for the rest of the church. Third, have you read the 14 points?????? wow!!! Point 5: The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act in any matter at any time. If we do in fact believe the 14 points to be correct, then there are fundamental problems with accepting conference talks as scripture, and we might even have fundamental problems with our current cannon of scripture as we currently know it. We can all agree that there are/were many revelations that were left out of Doctrine and Covenants correct? Why was that?
  18. 1. Get married. This will fix the Law of Chastity issues. 2. See your Bishop. He will take it from there. If you are truly repentant, you will make it to the temple, and so will your husband. 3. Don't wait to do number 1. if you put off number 1 it will be more difficult to do number 2
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    Inspired to go into debt?

    I guess I am deficient. I'm only a 9, and your husband is a 12..... which by the way is a lie because there is no such thing as a 12.....
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    Inspired to go into debt?

    This is the weirdest thread ever..... OP manages to pay off a 6 figure home in a few years. Good for him (passive brag?) OP prays and gets confirmation that it is ok to go into debt. God / spirit confirmed this is ok. (passive brag?) OP justifies the expenditure because he makes so much money and is so frugal. (passive brag?) I find this interesting because a $200K mortgage for 15 yrs at 3.25% is about $1,400/mo at 26.4% of OP net income means OP is taking home $64,000 per year more or less.....Which means OP is living off of less than half of his take home if he is paying off his house in 5-7 years. wow........what's for dinner top ramen? Spagetti o's? OP then takes all of this info to an anonymous web- site asking if we think it is ok, even though he prayed about it and knows it's ok? Weird.......
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    CH1 now on for everyone

    Interesting... wonder if they got tired of chasing down the people who constantly post the pdf of it on the internet...
  22. I feel your pain. As a fellow 9, I am accustomed to unwanted and unsolicited attention from the opposite sex. My advice is to put your attraction to the younger sister out of your mind. It is normal to be attracted to women. If she is an attractive girl, and you are attracted to her then congratulations you are normal. IT CAN'T GO PAST THAT If you find you are unable to control your thoughts/desires/actions then seek professional help, see your bishop. DO NOT ruin your family and your life over this.
  23. mdfxdb

    Married a nonmember

    You made a decision 12 years ago to go to his church. You also married a non-member. 12 years and 4 kids ago that all seemed like a good idea. Now you feel something is missing......... You will not like my advice, but here it is: Your marriage is first, your children are second. You are reaping consequences of your bad decisions. Do not sacrifice the sanctity of marriage or break up your family by planting your flag on this. Once your kids are grown, do what you want. Until then sleep in the bed you made. If you are going to his church and he is an otherwise righteous man and good provider/husband, then you have no reason to go against his wishes.
  24. How old are your children? Is his behavior having an adverse effect on his and your relationship with them? I would say you are justified in leaving. Both for past sins, and for his current relapse. However, you have children, and their needs are paramount. If you can fake it until the last one is out of the house, then you might look at that option. If his addiction is to the point where it is making home life unhealthy, then you need to remove your children from that environment. Abuse Addiction Adultery all good reasons for divorce.
  25. Scott. You're a smart guy. But you don't really think the bible contains stories of actual events do you? I mean did Jonah really live inside of a whale for 3 days? Was Job a real person? The church is true, the doctrine as currently revealed is perfect, the scriptures are true as far as they are translated correctly.