mrmarklin

When people call putting illegal immigrants in detention facilities as Nazi, it is right to call them out on their ignorance.
When people call government who are preventing people from exercising constitutionally protected rights as tyrants... you're calling a spade a spade.

The problem is that the closure is not a law it is a "decree" from the governor and mayors. They are unconstitutional commands, and they must muzzle the business owners who are resisting the dictators. Constitutional lawyers are going to have a field day with this one in a couple months.

Every business is essential to the business owner and employees.

You must realize, of course, that Andy Reid, the current Super Bowl winning coach of the Kansas City Chiefs is LDS, right?

In general, I should be able to choose with whom I do business.
 
The Civil Rights Act got it half correct.  There should never have been codified any so called Jim Crow laws requiring discrimination.  But the idea of "public accommodation" for business is incorrect.  And this public accommodation is what the LGBTQ groups have been asserting.

The short answer to your question is no. 
 
Let’s keep this in perspective. Covid 19 is not the bubonic plague that wiped out 1/3 of Europe in the Middle Ages. Most people that get it recover. And the ones that don’t tend to have serious health issues anyway.
This lock down is ridiculous and a way that the elites are trying to control people. Just because they think they can. 

My point about Hitler was that he took advantage of an “emergency “ to obtain power as Chancellor of Germany in 1933. He then arranged things to rule as an absolute dictator for twelve years, even though he was not technically a dictator at all. Mostly his decrees had a legal basis. 
 
Even though we have a supposed emergency here in the US, we must be cautious about giving up any of our God guaranteed rights. 
 
Actually we should be adamant about not giving up any, including church attendance.  AFAIK there is no legal basis to arrest anyone attending church. 

I must call you out on this. 
Hitler ruled Germany for twelve years under a legal emergency decree by the Reichstag. 
No supposed emergency ever justifies any compromise of our God given rights. No exceptions. 
The decrees so far here in the US  are not even legal IMHO. 

I work in an essential Industry so no change in work routine or income. 
 
Biggest change by far is SF Bay Area traffic. My commute of 15 miles is now around 15 minutes whereas it used to be almost an hour. 
 
For me all else is normal. Except my favorite restaurants are closed except for takeout, which is not my favorite thing to do. 
 
I refuse to wear a mask or not travel to my country home. SIP is ridiculous IMHO. BtW, I’m a 72 year old diabetic. No fear. 

My point about Hitler was that he took advantage of an “emergency “ to obtain power as Chancellor of Germany in 1933. He then arranged things to rule as an absolute dictator for twelve years, even though he was not technically a dictator at all. Mostly his decrees had a legal basis. 
 
Even though we have a supposed emergency here in the US, we must be cautious about giving up any of our God guaranteed rights. 
 
Actually we should be adamant about not giving up any, including church attendance.  AFAIK there is no legal basis to arrest anyone attending church. 

The short answer to your question is no. 
 
Let’s keep this in perspective. Covid 19 is not the bubonic plague that wiped out 1/3 of Europe in the Middle Ages. Most people that get it recover. And the ones that don’t tend to have serious health issues anyway.
This lock down is ridiculous and a way that the elites are trying to control people. Just because they think they can. 

We don't even know if it's 3%.  Many people are asymptomatic.  We don't have any idea how many people actually have it or died from it.  That doesn't mean I'm claiming "it's just like the flu".  
The answer is never.  The government shouldn't ever take away my liberty to protect me from myself.

The short answer to your question is no. 
 
Let’s keep this in perspective. Covid 19 is not the bubonic plague that wiped out 1/3 of Europe in the Middle Ages. Most people that get it recover. And the ones that don’t tend to have serious health issues anyway.
This lock down is ridiculous and a way that the elites are trying to control people. Just because they think they can. 

My point about Hitler was that he took advantage of an “emergency “ to obtain power as Chancellor of Germany in 1933. He then arranged things to rule as an absolute dictator for twelve years, even though he was not technically a dictator at all. Mostly his decrees had a legal basis. 
 
Even though we have a supposed emergency here in the US, we must be cautious about giving up any of our God guaranteed rights. 
 
Actually we should be adamant about not giving up any, including church attendance.  AFAIK there is no legal basis to arrest anyone attending church. 

My point about Hitler was that he took advantage of an “emergency “ to obtain power as Chancellor of Germany in 1933. He then arranged things to rule as an absolute dictator for twelve years, even though he was not technically a dictator at all. Mostly his decrees had a legal basis. 
 
Even though we have a supposed emergency here in the US, we must be cautious about giving up any of our God guaranteed rights. 
 
Actually we should be adamant about not giving up any, including church attendance.  AFAIK there is no legal basis to arrest anyone attending church. 

My point about Hitler was that he took advantage of an “emergency “ to obtain power as Chancellor of Germany in 1933. He then arranged things to rule as an absolute dictator for twelve years, even though he was not technically a dictator at all. Mostly his decrees had a legal basis. 
 
Even though we have a supposed emergency here in the US, we must be cautious about giving up any of our God guaranteed rights. 
 
Actually we should be adamant about not giving up any, including church attendance.  AFAIK there is no legal basis to arrest anyone attending church. 

I must call you out on this. 
Hitler ruled Germany for twelve years under a legal emergency decree by the Reichstag. 
No supposed emergency ever justifies any compromise of our God given rights. No exceptions. 
The decrees so far here in the US  are not even legal IMHO. 

It is and the powers that be are using this pandemic as an excuse to suppress not only religion, but gun rights and freedom of assembly and free speech.  All in the name of "safety".
None of this is legal of course, and I'm mostly ignoring any and all of these stupid orders.  I won't wear a mask or gloves, and I go where and when I please.  Over Easter we had a nice family gathering of over ten people at the house.  Shocking I know.
None of this has been legislated or voted upon by the people it restricts.
Sadly, all my favorite restaurants are closed except for takeout.

They thought he was more like Stalin. 

I really just wanted this to be said again. 

I must call you out on this. 
Hitler ruled Germany for twelve years under a legal emergency decree by the Reichstag. 
No supposed emergency ever justifies any compromise of our God given rights. No exceptions. 
The decrees so far here in the US  are not even legal IMHO. 

I must call you out on this. 
Hitler ruled Germany for twelve years under a legal emergency decree by the Reichstag. 
No supposed emergency ever justifies any compromise of our God given rights. No exceptions. 
The decrees so far here in the US  are not even legal IMHO. 

I'm offering a non-LDS Christian perspective, but I suspect that my thoughts apply well to most church settings. Some realities that may help:
1. Church leaders often recognize that it is the most devout who respond to calls for repentance. Often people deep in sin can be cavalier. So, it may be that your being disappointed with yourself (which does need to be lifted) is rooted primarily in your sincere desire for holiness--living right and pure before your God. The motivation is good, but the result (feeling overwhelmingly guilty) is unbalanced.
2. God don't make no junk! Not sure who first said this, but it is so. Humanity was/is the height of God's creation. Each soul is a treasure. Every head on your head is counted by Heavenly Father.
3. Consider enhancing your worship of God. In your post you focus a lot on you. That could be disheartening for anyone! So...turn a good measure of that focus to the One you serve. Play faith-promoting songs--especially those that directly offer praise of the LORD. Perhaps doing a study of God's characteristics might be useful. Look to Galations 5:22--23. If you like the characteristics listed seek a greater infilling of God's Holy Spirit. More of Him, less of me!
4. Keep doing the self-care you described--even the medicine, if it is indicated. You may believe it is not effective, but you might be that much worse off without it.
These are just my initial thoughts. God's peace, comfort and presence be with you!

I must call you out on this. 
Hitler ruled Germany for twelve years under a legal emergency decree by the Reichstag. 
No supposed emergency ever justifies any compromise of our God given rights. No exceptions. 
The decrees so far here in the US  are not even legal IMHO. 

Wait...I thought having several months of essentials items stored up was some kind of church-encouraged thing. No?