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    Rhoades got a reaction from askandanswer in a thought   
    The scriptures do suggest that Eve knew about the commandment from God and thought it applied to her as well.  Genesis 3:2-3 says "And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die."  Moses 4:8-9 says a similar thing.
    Another source to learn about the creation and fall is the temple endowment.  After studying the fall in Genesis and Moses due to this thread, the next time I went to the temple (last week) I noticed some slight differences in ordering compared to the scriptures.  Maybe it was done that way just for convenience in telling the story, but I believe there's further evidence that the commandment also applied to Eve.  Also, the variations between Moses and the temple suggest to me that the ordering isn't extremely important for us to be able to learn what's most important.
    Other verses I happened upon last week include:
    Moses 6:53 which says "And the Lord said unto Adam: Behold I have forgiven thee thy transgression in the Garden of Eden."  Adam needed to be "forgiven" .  However, given what Moses 6:54 says it may be different than your typical evil sin needing forgiveness.  Little children being redeemed as taught in Moroni 8:8 comes to mind.  Moses 6:48 through the rest of the chapter has some good teachings about the fall.
    Mosiah 16:3 which says "... that old serpent that did beguile our first parents, which was the cause of their fall;  which was the cause of all mankind becoming carnal, sensual, devilish, knowing evil from good, subjecting themselves to the devil."  One thing that stood out to me was "beguile our first parents."  One could use this to reason that Adam was also beguiled.  But you could also interpret it as they collectively as a couple were beguiled due to Eve and Adam followed Eve for other reasons.  This verse also teaches about "knowing evil from good".  I've noticed scriptures about knowing good and evil a lot this past week.
    Alma 12 starting at verse 21 through the rest of the chapter, and even the first part of Alma 13 provide more light on the subject.  This and other scriptures make me really appreciate that there is great commentary on the fall in the Book of Mormon.
    EDIT ====================
    I'm now in Alma 42 and 1-11 has more great material about the fall.  It's so relevant to some of the posts in this thread I had to add it.
     
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    Rhoades reacted to MrShorty in 4 Better Chastity Object Lessons for Youth   
    I have recently finished reading the book Sexual Wholeness in Marriage by three BYU professors. They included a chapter discussing these kinds of object lessons. They divide our common object lessons into two types: Fear based (like licked cupcakes and chewed gum), and abstinence based (like the three mentioned here). When all is said and done, the authors of this book are not fond of any of these object lessons. Recognizing that no object lesson is ever going to be perfect, they suggest that abstinence based lessons like the ones mentioned in the Mormonhub article have three basic flaws -- 1) They suggest that chastity is a purely physical thing, 2) that chastity is individual (what happens when you wait your turn to drive the fancy car, but find out that your husband/wife did not wait?), and 3) that these object lessons set up a marriage "finish line" (now that I've waited, what happens next?).
    They give 2 final conclusions/recommendations against using any object lesson. A) Don't use object lessons because all object lessons imply that the teacher is unwilling/unable to directly confront sexual topics. B) All object lessons fall flat because sexuality/chastity is more of an object lesson for our discipleship.
    As interesting as these object lessons are, I think I can recommend these ideas from this book for your consideration. Maybe it is better to just be direct about it and stop trying to hide behind object lessons and analogies to try to teach about sexual purity.
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    Rhoades reacted to zil in a thought   
    We have no evidence that time existed in the Garden of Eden - they and it were eternal, immortal.  We have no evidence that God specified a "by this date", "after no more than this duration", "immediately" or any other such time constraint on them.  I am not prepared to say in my ignorance that Adam and Eve were sinning based on whether or not they had started to multiply.
    We teach little children that God has commanded us to marry and have children - shall we fault them for not getting on with it immediately?  Adam and Eve were, as we are told, as little children when they started out in the Garden of Eden.  Do you know when they had advanced far enough that failure to reproduce changed into a sin?  I sure don't.
    I didn't offer that list as an excuse for Adam and Eve, I offered it as an explanation for why the "immediately" implication of your interpretation cannot always be applied to all commandments, and if it cannot always be applied to all commandments, then I see no reason for why it should necessarily be applied to this commandment to Adam and Eve.
    The simple fact is, we weren't there.  We don't know exactly what happened.  We don't know how much of this is literal and how much is an effort to teach us.  We don't know how Adam and Eve went about learning or trying to understand this commandment and how to obey it.  We are woefully ignorant to be proclaiming whether or not they were committing sin by not immediately reproducing.  (Maybe they were, maybe they weren't, we have no way of knowing and therefore no right to make the claim either way.)
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    Rhoades got a reaction from classylady in a thought   
    I think it would be better to say "what Adam & Eve did was disobedience".  Romans 5:19 supports this.  I have a hard time calling it "simple" as evidenced by this thread.   How much did they know?  What was going through their minds?  Is it better to call it a "transgression"?  And so on.  I suppose it's a good reminder why we aren't to judge others.
    There's a good lesson for spouses in the story of the fall.  After they ate the forbidden fruit when the Lord called them on it, Adam said "The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat." (Gen 3:11)   This was worded through Joseph Smith as "The woman thou gavest me, and commandest  that she should remain with me,..." (Moses 4:18)  Adam was supposed to be with Eve ("It is not good that the man should be alone" -- Gen. 2:18)  After Eve partook (and would therefore be cast out), he seemed to have a dilemma.  Should he let her go and disobey commandments to cleave (Gen 2:24), remain (Moses 4:18), be one (Gen 2:24), multiply (Gen 1:28), etc.?  Or should he disobey the commandment about not eating the fruit?  Maybe he should have asked God the next time he came around ... I don't know.  But, there's a lesson about marriage in there.  If a spouse is faced with difficulty and trial (whether brought on by their own choices or not), we could wish them well and abandon them or we could try to stick with them and work through it together.  Another lesson is that sometimes our spouse may make what we think is a terrible choice, yet things turn out for the better in the long run.
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    Rhoades got a reaction from Blackmarch in Romans 3:23-28   
    I love that scripture!
    Lest anyone think I am ignoring the rest of God's word (Rev 22:19), I am well aware that faith and works go together (John 14:12, Hebrews 11:6, and of course James 2, and even the last verse in Romans 3, etc.).  I also know that justification is not just from my faith; the most important part is Jesus -- we are "justified by his blood" (Romans 5:9).
    Some other scriptures I love about the goodness of Jesus and my dependence on Him:
    "I glory in plainness; I glory in truth; I glory in my Jesus, for he hath redeemed my soul from hell." (2 Nephi 33:6)
    "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." (Ephesians 2:8-10)
    "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature:old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." (2 Corinthians 5;17)
    "But Ammon said unto him: I do not boast in my own strength, nor in my own wisdom; but behold, my joy is full, yea, my heart is brim with joy, and I will rejoice in my God.  Yea, I know that I am nothing; as to my strength I am weak; therefore I will not boast of myself, but I will boast of my God, for in his strength I can do all things; yea, behold, many mighty miracles we have wrought in this land, for which we will praise his name forever. . . .  Therefore, let us glory, yea, we will glory in the Lord; yea, we will rejoice, for our joy is full; yea, we will praise our God forever. Behold, who can glory too much in the Lord? Yea, who can say too much of his great power, and of his mercy, and of his long-suffering towards the children of men? Behold, I say unto you, I cannot say the smallest part which I feel." (Alma 26 11-12, 16)
    "And when I desire to rejoice, my heart groaneth because of my sins; nevertheless, I know in whom I have trusted.  My God hath been my support; he hath led me through mine afflictions...; and he hath preserved me...  He hath filled me with his love" ( 2 Nephi 4:19-21)
    "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.  I am that bread of life. Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die." (John 6:47-50)
    "And moreover, I say unto you, that there shall be no other name given nor any other way nor means whereby salvation can come unto the children of men, only in and through the name of Christ, the Lord Omnipotent" (Mosiah 3:17)
     
    I could go on and on with scriptures that remind me of how great God is.
     
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    Rhoades got a reaction from jerome1232 in Romans 3:23-28   
    I love that scripture!
    Lest anyone think I am ignoring the rest of God's word (Rev 22:19), I am well aware that faith and works go together (John 14:12, Hebrews 11:6, and of course James 2, and even the last verse in Romans 3, etc.).  I also know that justification is not just from my faith; the most important part is Jesus -- we are "justified by his blood" (Romans 5:9).
    Some other scriptures I love about the goodness of Jesus and my dependence on Him:
    "I glory in plainness; I glory in truth; I glory in my Jesus, for he hath redeemed my soul from hell." (2 Nephi 33:6)
    "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." (Ephesians 2:8-10)
    "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature:old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." (2 Corinthians 5;17)
    "But Ammon said unto him: I do not boast in my own strength, nor in my own wisdom; but behold, my joy is full, yea, my heart is brim with joy, and I will rejoice in my God.  Yea, I know that I am nothing; as to my strength I am weak; therefore I will not boast of myself, but I will boast of my God, for in his strength I can do all things; yea, behold, many mighty miracles we have wrought in this land, for which we will praise his name forever. . . .  Therefore, let us glory, yea, we will glory in the Lord; yea, we will rejoice, for our joy is full; yea, we will praise our God forever. Behold, who can glory too much in the Lord? Yea, who can say too much of his great power, and of his mercy, and of his long-suffering towards the children of men? Behold, I say unto you, I cannot say the smallest part which I feel." (Alma 26 11-12, 16)
    "And when I desire to rejoice, my heart groaneth because of my sins; nevertheless, I know in whom I have trusted.  My God hath been my support; he hath led me through mine afflictions...; and he hath preserved me...  He hath filled me with his love" ( 2 Nephi 4:19-21)
    "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.  I am that bread of life. Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die." (John 6:47-50)
    "And moreover, I say unto you, that there shall be no other name given nor any other way nor means whereby salvation can come unto the children of men, only in and through the name of Christ, the Lord Omnipotent" (Mosiah 3:17)
     
    I could go on and on with scriptures that remind me of how great God is.
     
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    Rhoades got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in Romans 3:23-28   
    I love that scripture!
    Lest anyone think I am ignoring the rest of God's word (Rev 22:19), I am well aware that faith and works go together (John 14:12, Hebrews 11:6, and of course James 2, and even the last verse in Romans 3, etc.).  I also know that justification is not just from my faith; the most important part is Jesus -- we are "justified by his blood" (Romans 5:9).
    Some other scriptures I love about the goodness of Jesus and my dependence on Him:
    "I glory in plainness; I glory in truth; I glory in my Jesus, for he hath redeemed my soul from hell." (2 Nephi 33:6)
    "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." (Ephesians 2:8-10)
    "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature:old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." (2 Corinthians 5;17)
    "But Ammon said unto him: I do not boast in my own strength, nor in my own wisdom; but behold, my joy is full, yea, my heart is brim with joy, and I will rejoice in my God.  Yea, I know that I am nothing; as to my strength I am weak; therefore I will not boast of myself, but I will boast of my God, for in his strength I can do all things; yea, behold, many mighty miracles we have wrought in this land, for which we will praise his name forever. . . .  Therefore, let us glory, yea, we will glory in the Lord; yea, we will rejoice, for our joy is full; yea, we will praise our God forever. Behold, who can glory too much in the Lord? Yea, who can say too much of his great power, and of his mercy, and of his long-suffering towards the children of men? Behold, I say unto you, I cannot say the smallest part which I feel." (Alma 26 11-12, 16)
    "And when I desire to rejoice, my heart groaneth because of my sins; nevertheless, I know in whom I have trusted.  My God hath been my support; he hath led me through mine afflictions...; and he hath preserved me...  He hath filled me with his love" ( 2 Nephi 4:19-21)
    "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.  I am that bread of life. Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die." (John 6:47-50)
    "And moreover, I say unto you, that there shall be no other name given nor any other way nor means whereby salvation can come unto the children of men, only in and through the name of Christ, the Lord Omnipotent" (Mosiah 3:17)
     
    I could go on and on with scriptures that remind me of how great God is.
     
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    Rhoades got a reaction from Jane_Doe in Romans 3:23-28   
    I love that scripture!
    Lest anyone think I am ignoring the rest of God's word (Rev 22:19), I am well aware that faith and works go together (John 14:12, Hebrews 11:6, and of course James 2, and even the last verse in Romans 3, etc.).  I also know that justification is not just from my faith; the most important part is Jesus -- we are "justified by his blood" (Romans 5:9).
    Some other scriptures I love about the goodness of Jesus and my dependence on Him:
    "I glory in plainness; I glory in truth; I glory in my Jesus, for he hath redeemed my soul from hell." (2 Nephi 33:6)
    "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." (Ephesians 2:8-10)
    "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature:old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." (2 Corinthians 5;17)
    "But Ammon said unto him: I do not boast in my own strength, nor in my own wisdom; but behold, my joy is full, yea, my heart is brim with joy, and I will rejoice in my God.  Yea, I know that I am nothing; as to my strength I am weak; therefore I will not boast of myself, but I will boast of my God, for in his strength I can do all things; yea, behold, many mighty miracles we have wrought in this land, for which we will praise his name forever. . . .  Therefore, let us glory, yea, we will glory in the Lord; yea, we will rejoice, for our joy is full; yea, we will praise our God forever. Behold, who can glory too much in the Lord? Yea, who can say too much of his great power, and of his mercy, and of his long-suffering towards the children of men? Behold, I say unto you, I cannot say the smallest part which I feel." (Alma 26 11-12, 16)
    "And when I desire to rejoice, my heart groaneth because of my sins; nevertheless, I know in whom I have trusted.  My God hath been my support; he hath led me through mine afflictions...; and he hath preserved me...  He hath filled me with his love" ( 2 Nephi 4:19-21)
    "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.  I am that bread of life. Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die." (John 6:47-50)
    "And moreover, I say unto you, that there shall be no other name given nor any other way nor means whereby salvation can come unto the children of men, only in and through the name of Christ, the Lord Omnipotent" (Mosiah 3:17)
     
    I could go on and on with scriptures that remind me of how great God is.
     
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    Rhoades reacted to Larry Cotrell in Romans 3:23-28   
    For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
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    Rhoades got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in a thought   
    I think it would be better to say "what Adam & Eve did was disobedience".  Romans 5:19 supports this.  I have a hard time calling it "simple" as evidenced by this thread.   How much did they know?  What was going through their minds?  Is it better to call it a "transgression"?  And so on.  I suppose it's a good reminder why we aren't to judge others.
    There's a good lesson for spouses in the story of the fall.  After they ate the forbidden fruit when the Lord called them on it, Adam said "The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat." (Gen 3:11)   This was worded through Joseph Smith as "The woman thou gavest me, and commandest  that she should remain with me,..." (Moses 4:18)  Adam was supposed to be with Eve ("It is not good that the man should be alone" -- Gen. 2:18)  After Eve partook (and would therefore be cast out), he seemed to have a dilemma.  Should he let her go and disobey commandments to cleave (Gen 2:24), remain (Moses 4:18), be one (Gen 2:24), multiply (Gen 1:28), etc.?  Or should he disobey the commandment about not eating the fruit?  Maybe he should have asked God the next time he came around ... I don't know.  But, there's a lesson about marriage in there.  If a spouse is faced with difficulty and trial (whether brought on by their own choices or not), we could wish them well and abandon them or we could try to stick with them and work through it together.  Another lesson is that sometimes our spouse may make what we think is a terrible choice, yet things turn out for the better in the long run.
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    Rhoades got a reaction from zil in a thought   
    I think it would be better to say "what Adam & Eve did was disobedience".  Romans 5:19 supports this.  I have a hard time calling it "simple" as evidenced by this thread.   How much did they know?  What was going through their minds?  Is it better to call it a "transgression"?  And so on.  I suppose it's a good reminder why we aren't to judge others.
    There's a good lesson for spouses in the story of the fall.  After they ate the forbidden fruit when the Lord called them on it, Adam said "The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat." (Gen 3:11)   This was worded through Joseph Smith as "The woman thou gavest me, and commandest  that she should remain with me,..." (Moses 4:18)  Adam was supposed to be with Eve ("It is not good that the man should be alone" -- Gen. 2:18)  After Eve partook (and would therefore be cast out), he seemed to have a dilemma.  Should he let her go and disobey commandments to cleave (Gen 2:24), remain (Moses 4:18), be one (Gen 2:24), multiply (Gen 1:28), etc.?  Or should he disobey the commandment about not eating the fruit?  Maybe he should have asked God the next time he came around ... I don't know.  But, there's a lesson about marriage in there.  If a spouse is faced with difficulty and trial (whether brought on by their own choices or not), we could wish them well and abandon them or we could try to stick with them and work through it together.  Another lesson is that sometimes our spouse may make what we think is a terrible choice, yet things turn out for the better in the long run.
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    Rhoades reacted to prisonchaplain in a thought   
    I presume God's love, kindness, justice and intelligence. Then I interpret the scripture I read. If a literal interpretation seems difficult, I may dig deeper, look at related passages, and even seek wise counsel from learned teachers. However, I am very slow to jettison the literal understanding. More often than not the difficulty is with my understanding, not with the facts and events of the text.
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    Rhoades got a reaction from Urstadt in Why be silent?   
    1) So you can hear other people.
    2) So you are pleasant to be around and not disruptive.
    3) It would become too exhausting if you continually produced sound.
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    Rhoades got a reaction from SilentOne in Coffee and Tea?   
    I mean the one before he was president of the church.  He was an apostle and prophet when he gave that talk.
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    Rhoades got a reaction from SilentOne in Why be silent?   
    1) So you can hear other people.
    2) So you are pleasant to be around and not disruptive.
    3) It would become too exhausting if you continually produced sound.
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    Rhoades got a reaction from Sunday21 in Question: On Primary and handing out candy   
    If it was only one treat and happened only once a week I could live with that.  That would be nice.  When it's something in class, then something in sharing time, and then something from the Bishop that starts to add up.  And if some of those givers don't limit it to a sole cookie but give out several then that adds up even more and at some point it becomes too much.
    My wife stated her preference once asking that they consider the volume of treats being dispensed, and we haven't said anything since so I guess we're OK living with more than one a week.  We are by no means health nuts -- the entire lunch was ice cream at our house the other day.  After thinking about it more, the treat volume is actually pretty reasonable now that certain people have changed callings or moved.  In fact, I don't remember any treats being eaten after church yesterday, or hard feelings about who got what, or children not eating dinner.  And, thankfully there aren't daily treats in the schools where we now live.
     
    Thankfully we're in a ward in the Eastern US that is quite the opposite of gloom and inactivity.  Very, very friendly and welcoming people.  Sacrament meeting attendance is around 70%, we have over 60 young men and women with about 95% of those being active, and a large primary that's almost 100% active.  This is the ward that used to have a no treat primary president just a few years ago.  Judging by how they're turning out, it didn't damage our youth too much.  
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    Rhoades got a reaction from mrmarklin in Coffee and Tea?   
    Good point that the word of wisdom is technically doctrine.
    Also, I think it is valuable to know at least at a high level the difference between policy and the eternal principles they are based on so one is not too surprised when policies change. 
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    Rhoades reacted to anatess2 in Question: On Primary and handing out candy   
    Giving a treat for reverence is like giving a treat for not fighting in the car on a long trip.  I saw this FB post a while back about an idea for long car trips using cutsey decorated name tag on a clothespin clipped to the sun visor.  The post says that when a child mis-behaves their clothespin is removed from the visor and the child that is left on the visor gets a treat at the next stop.  I'm like... uhm... no.  In my house (or car) we don't reward kids to do what is expected of them.  Now, we have given a special treat for the kid that took the initiative of entertaining the rest of us for the duration.  I had a kid that read an entire book to us on a trip once...
    My CTR 8 class had flex time.  Flex time is journaling/scrapbooking where they fill up a page of their binder to show what they learned - it can be a coloring page that they paste on their binders and color, or it could be some kind of crossword puzzle, etc., that is a reminder of the lesson.  They also write down the scriptures used in the lesson.  The girls love to make their page cute with stickers and such.  At the end of the year, they take the entire binder home.  I did this because when my kids were young, they always end up with little pieces of paper and little project stuff that ends up in the trash.  I got the idea of using the scrapbook instead so they don't need to take anything home until the end of the year.  They can eat during flex time on non-fast Sundays in my class if they wish.  I always have a bunch of snacks in the bag with the crayons.  It's something I use to break the monotony of a 50-minute class.
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    Rhoades got a reaction from Anddenex in Question: On Primary and handing out candy   
    Your memory is correct, but when Handbook 2 was updated in 2012 they took out the statement.  I think the old book said:
     
    @zil provided what's in the handbook now.  In addition to that, on lds.org under primary leader resources FAQ ( https://www.lds.org/callings/primary/leader-resources/frequently-asked-questions?lang=eng&_r=1#food-in ) it says:
     
    Also, from the "Primary 2: Choose the Right A" book (for CTR 4-7 classes) in the Helps For Teachers section at the beginning found at https://www.lds.org/manual/primary-2/helps-for-the-teacher?lang=eng
     
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    Rhoades got a reaction from LeSellers in Coffee and Tea?   
    Good point that the word of wisdom is technically doctrine.
    Also, I think it is valuable to know at least at a high level the difference between policy and the eternal principles they are based on so one is not too surprised when policies change. 
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    Rhoades got a reaction from LeSellers in Coffee and Tea?   
    Although others have provided earlier references I think it's worth reminding everyone that the teachings of modern prophets are also authoritative.  You can find the teaching at mormon.org, "True to the Faith", "For the Strength of Youth", "Gospel Principles", etc.  You can also find references in general conference talks.  As President of the Church, Ezra Taft Benson taught it in April 1983: 
     
    Perhaps you wonder if it's like the priesthood policy and is a mistake.  If so, you'd be fooling yourself if you think you can make that decision.  Follow the prophet and you'll be blessed.
     
    It is a matter of both policy and doctrine.  The policy part pertains to which substances we currently abstain from.  Obviously, the Lord's law of health has changed throughout the history of mankind.  He has his reasons.  The doctrine part was stated in a famous talk by Ezra Taft Benson in 1981:
    That is doctrine.  Our observance of the word of wisdom and the manner in which we observe it is based on that doctrine. 
    Another doctrine of interest as stated by President Benson:
    And another:
     
    Our observance of the word of wisdom is a matter of both policy and doctrine.
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    Good point that the word of wisdom is technically doctrine.
    Also, I think it is valuable to know at least at a high level the difference between policy and the eternal principles they are based on so one is not too surprised when policies change. 
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    Rhoades reacted to tesuji in Question: On Primary and handing out candy   
    My daughter regularly gets candy in her primary classes, even on Fast Sunday. It drives me nuts. We do not want this as her parents.
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    Rhoades reacted to tesuji in Second Coming, soooooooo many questions   
    I ran across this great quote today, which seemed relevant to the last days, and to our everyday trials now too:
     
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    Rhoades got a reaction from tesuji in Second Coming, soooooooo many questions   
    Trying to go to the safest geographical place might end up being like Jonah taking a ship to Tarshish to hide from the Lord.  Calamities can find us anywhere.
    I think a good way to prepare is to study what prophets are focusing on today while asking God to let us know through his Spirit what we should concentrate on in our lives.
    Personally, I hear a lot more spiritual preparation focus than physical preparation from prophets.  I think that tells me where the balance of my focus should be.
    As far as how to do physical preparation, I think following the counsel of prophets is wise there too.  The most recent thing I could find that mentioned food storage from President Monson was from a first presidency message in September 2014.  The focus is more toward provident living and financial preparation than just food storage. (https://www.lds.org/ensign/2014/09/are-we-prepared?lang=eng)
     
    As a disclaimer, that was a result from a real quick search. Maybe there's something in this month's Ensign that I already forgot about.  
    Also, the Church doesn't call for a "12 month supply" or a "year supply" anymore.  In 2009 the counsel became to gradually build up a 3 months supply of some foods that are in your regular diet, water, and a financial reserve.  Then after that's in place you build a long-term supply of food staples like wheat, rice, beans, etc. These long-term items are the types of things that last at least 30 years. No set time period is specified for your long-term supply.  I think the Church's current counsel is easier to implement and more practical and useful.  Also, if you tell someone to "get a year supply of food" they would probably do it differently and have different items than what the church recommends.  A year supply of freeze dried strawberries sounds nice and go for it if you want, but it's outside of what the current counsel suggests.
    The current guideline is found here: https://www.lds.org/topics/food-storage?lang=eng  I find it interesting that money is one of the 3 main components of "food storage".  An article introducing it is here: https://www.lds.org/ensign/2009/03/family-home-storage-a-new-message?lang=eng 
    Although this came out in the previous decade some areas of the Church have local leaders that aren't really aware of this.  I think that's because food storage in general has not been a focus from the prophets.
     
    Another thought is that we have to be careful to not look beyond the mark.  If we put aside the plain and simple counsel in favor of wanting something more complex we may become blind and stumble as did the Jews.  This is from Jacob 4:14: