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  1. And the next day, along comes Elder Oaks! And it unfortunately causes contention between me and my 18 yr old daughter who has a huge heart but has been educated in the woke world of relativism and thinks there is more gray area than there really is. 😩
  2. Robust We need to have a conversation about it So sorry for your loss Louder for the ones in the back like like like
  3. Now what about this nuclear stuff? Is he bluffing?
  4. Well, this would certainly mess up our plans to move back to Utah this summer! How do you prepare for a cyber war?
  5. Does anyone know if missionaries have been removed from Poland? I can’t find any news on that. It looked like there were only couple missionaries in Belarus and they’re probably removed long ago, I would guess. 😢
  6. Has there ever been war in a city where there is a standing temple?
  7. Doesn’t need to say it in the scriptures. It’s painfully obvious! We saw some naked women with painted on flags in Times Square. Clearly naked! 😬
  8. I think it’s interesting how so many claim God made him that way and loves him just as he is. 1-No one knows if God made him that way or not. We haven’t received any revelation on that yet (have we? Did I miss something?) 2- God would want us to overcome the natural man rather than giving in and claiming no ability to control it. Most disappointing was a comment from someone- - former leader who has spoken in General Conference who said she loves him just as he is. No qualifier that he should keep trying to make good choices or encouragement to stay clean and free from sin. Maybe I’m over thinking this. I need to just let it roll off my back but in just feels like the church is caving to public sentiment.
  9. I did in a way. Not that directly. I don’t want the “feel bads” when everyone tells me off. BTDT!! But I found one comment that said “the doctrine on eternal families isn’t going to change but I still hope you can find peace and happiness. “ That was one of the most honest comments.
  10. So I’ll repeat my original motive for posting. I haven’t been active on this or any church forum for a few years. It seems the response to these LGBTQ ( what is Q anyway and how is it different from L?) posts are sooooo overwhelmingly huggy and supportive of these people. More so than it used to be. We seem to be treating them not only with kid-gloves but raining down rose petals on them. This is even coming from very strong members (one gushy “love-you David” note came from an outwardly incredibly spiritual seminary teacher in our ward.) It took me by surprise. I understand we’re trying very hard to mitigate the rash of suicides among this group. And let them know of their value as individuals. That’s all good. But the praise and adoration heaped on them seems like it could be misinterpreted pretty easily that they simply get a pass on having to resist delving wholly into the culture and acting on it. Since when is it ok to not deny all ungodliness? Is it now illegal among Church members to denounce same sex intimate relationships? I haven’t seen even one person in the comments say, “ if you choose to live in a gay relationship you will have to live with the consequences which may not be pleasant.” Not one!! It’s only coddling and sympathy with blame squarely on the Brethren and all the unsupportive members for his unhappiness. Have we gone soft! Is this now what being Christ-like looks like? 😕
  11. I think he was talking in general about anyone-not just David Archleta who doesn’t marry and spend the next 20-30 years of their life raising a family. That extra time NOT spent raising the kids can be used in productive and happy ways. Life doesn’t need to be considered a failure if they don’t marry! I’m sure it’s not easy. The desire to be loved and to love is obviously very powerful. Archuleta has done pretty darn well filling his life with music up till lately (till COVID put the damper on public performances). For whatever reason he’s gone public lately with all this about his sexuality and whatnot. So either he’s had a setback in dealing with it, or he’s a late bloomer who has just recently decided to deal with his lack of success in dating women- and has gone so very very public with it. Because when you’re famous you can and you’ll get an avalanche of response. And if you come out of the closet to announce you’re gay and in your mind your Church has oppressed you, what you’ll mostly get is sympathy and atta boys because that’s just how things are these days. When you say the Church’s response is “off” what do you mean? Can you elaborate?
  12. What I would tell him to do depends on my mood. Sometimes I get so tired of people trying to update the doctrine to fit what they want the narrative to be that I think - fine! Go get yourself a same sex partner and see how that works out for you. Otherwise, if I’m not feeling snarky I would remind them that they are loved, that they can be strengthened through Christ and that this life is a minuscule dot in eternity and to trust that eternal blessings are worth enduring some pain and perhaps loneliness if they choose to remain single. But I’m married with 7 children and 9 grandchildren so that kind of advice doesn’t sound very empathetic coming from me. I like this!! Compelling ideas. I don’t think it would fly with those who have forsaken the church to deal with their trial. According to many, life is so much more beautiful without having to be limited and bogged down by doctrine. But I find enough beauty in life with the Gospel that I don’t need to leave to find a different source of beauty. I agree. So is it wrong to push back or even just gently and politely disagree with all those trying to lead him astray? There may be only one voice in a hundred or more trying to stand up for truth. Why is that? I’m quite sure that a huge number of the thousands who have watched the video are members of the church. Is it not appropriate on social media to encourage someone to stay strong? Or are we as the broad membership tipping toward actually thinking they might be better off leaving the church? Or are we just too squeamish or unsure about this topic to voice our faith in God’s plan? Are we letting Satan win?
  13. He’s obviously looking for help wherever he can get it. But maybe mostly validation that he’s normal for being attracted to men. If he really wanted to stay in the church and not act on his attractions, I doubt he’d ask “the world” at large. Surely he’d realize he’d get more encouragement to leave. He also said he thought maybe he would find a non-LDS therapist to help with his confusion. I don’t that’s going to help much.
  14. Has anyone seen David Archuleta’s emotional, more than 45 minute video he posted a couple days ago on Instagram and You Tube about his struggle to reconcile his disinterest in women/being more into guys and his 31 years of being devoted to the church. He’s apparently on the edge of suicidal about it. I feel for him. That’s tough. I still have no answers. But the thing that’s more frustrating than anything is that in the comments there are more encouraging him to leave the church, be his authentic self and know that God made him that way. Most claim to be former members. There is a lot of the typical “ just love who you’re attracted to”. Why is it that almost no one is getting on there to encourage him to hang onto the truth and weather the storms and stay with the Gospel of Jesus Christ? What would you tell him to do?
  15. This document was adopted into our school district “Code of Conduct”. It has thrown a bunch of parents for a loop de loop! They were especially peeved by the first “Whereas”, that teachers will be trained in “implicit bias”, and the last one that makes it sound like kids of color will be from now on disciplined less harshly. Whoee are some parents spitting mad!! This and the fact that our Board of Ed won’t commit to no masks for kids in classes come fall. They’re ready to fire the whole board. Anti-Racism Resolution of the Board of Education of Calvert County Public Schools Whereas, the Calvert County Board of Education is outraged by the recent deaths of George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, and Breonna Taylor, as well as countless other African Americans who have lost their lives as a result of racism and police brutality that persist in our country; and Whereas, the Calvert County Board of Education acknowledges racism exists in our school community, and we expressly denounce racism, bullying, discrimination, white supremacy, hate, and racial inequity in any form within our school community; and Whereas, racism has no place in our schools, we must protect the constitutional rights of each person who attends or works in our district; and Whereas the Calvert County Board of Education will not tolerate the values, structures, and behaviors that perpetuate systemic racism; and Whereas, policies, practices, and procedures that produce equitable outcomes for students of color and marginalized groups will be adopted and maintained; and Whereas, it is time to listen to, learn from, and speak up for those who have endured discrimination and intolerance. Every member of the district, individually and collectively, is responsible for creating and nurturing a safe, anti-racist learning environment where each student and staff member is respected and valued for who they are, regardless of skin color; and Whereas, curriculum and instructional materials for all grades shall reflect cultural and racial diversity and include a range of perspectives and experiences, particularly those of historically underrepresented groups of color; and Whereas, all district staff, administrators, teachers, and support staff shall be trained on implicit bias, racism, and about how racism produces inequitable practices and outcomes; and a racially diverse and inclusive workforce is achieved by identifying and removing bias interrupters used during the hiring process; and Whereas, discipline processes to increase racial disparities in discipline and suspension for students of color and marginalized groups shall be eliminated; now, therefore, be it Resolved, that the Members of the Board of Education of Calvert County affirm our obligation to require a safe, anti-racist, and inclusive educational environment where each student and staff member is treated with respect and dignity regardless of the color of their skin. We further acknowledge it is the responsibility of the Superintendent of Calvert County Public Schools to uphold the commitment to eliminate bias, racism, and inequities from our system. William J. Phalen, Sr., President Inez N. Claggett, V. President Dawn C. Balinski, Member Pamela L. Cousins, Member Tracy H. McGuire, Member Dr. Daniel D. Curry Secretary-Treasurer and Superintendent of Schools
  16. My question is why can some people look at attractive individuals and not feel any arousal while others look at individuals and it becomes sexual attraction? Why does it become a sexual attraction? Also how is it that some people can be so very happily married to someone who is not physically attractive and produce children with them when sexual attraction is so darned important- like so important that it defines the very labels and identity we give ourselves!? (sarcasm alert) I feel pity for David because if he decides to lay hold onto what little attraction he has for women in order to obtain the family he wants, he will have to fight the world and community that wants him for their own. He’s kind of a meek guy. I’m not sure he’s strong enough for that fight. The cat’s out of the bag and it’s not ever getting back in!!
  17. People can be who they are but there are consequences. The main thing I felt missing from Elder McConkie's style was any love or genuine concern for the individual. I feel Jesus Christ and our Father in Heaven would be more accepting of mistakes and imperfections in us that McConkie was. And besides that, he was wrong on at least one issue so I lost trust in him and his very assertive and, frankly, scary style of preaching. But Vort I can see why you would like him. Your style isn't too unlike his. Just an observation. Not meant to be a cut. Some people are more straight liners than others.
  18. No, I understand that. It's the problem of the prophet making a clear distinction of whom we should try to hear (Jesus Christ) when apparently the doctrine is that we shouldn't try to make that distinction. Or was that really just a slogan to go along with the 200 year anniversary of the first vision? Because that's what the Father said to Joseph Smith. "this is my Beloved Son...Hear Him." And then the Son spoke. It probably doesn't really matter at all except that it seems the prophet is encouraging us to try to hear ( at times?) Jesus Christ only. 🤷‍♀️
  19. I listened to that talk by Elder McConkie. He says a couple times in no uncertain terms, "Jesus is our Elder Brother" He never says in any way the Christ is our father. He says our relationship with God ( only God) is that of parent to child. So I wonder after listening to that talk, if Elder McConkie is really speaking truth- that all revelation comes from whichever of the Godhead because they are unified, why President Nelson would single out Jesus Christ as the one we should try to hear? Why is he clearly separating The Father and the Son in regards to where the revelation is coming from by saying "God wants us to know that in uncertainty and fear what will help us the very most is to hear His Son... Because when we seek to hear- truly hear- His Son we will be guided to know what to do in any circumstance." McConkie was so very stern and forceful in saying we shouldn't single them out and that if we were to at all our deference should be to the Father. Nor should we try to have a special relationship with Jesus Christ. I think that in focusing so much on trying to hear the Son, maybe we're crossing the line into that territory that Elder MCConkie says is false and dangerous. I don't know... Am I justified in being confused?
  20. I appreciate these answers but it still remains nebulous to me. In the church a pretty big deal is made of the fact that the godhead is made up of three distinct individuals and yet when it comes to receiving revelation they are kind of meshed together in a way that is hard for me to get my head around. I personally don't communicate with Jesus and I don't receive revelation from Him. I am eternally grateful to Him and want to follow his example as taught to us in the scriptures, but I don't hear Him. I feel like that would take some mental gymnastics to pray to and communicate with Father in Heaven but get personal revelation from Jesus Christ- as President Nelson says. Maybe I'm autistic-like in that I see this in a literal sense. If they are literally separate beings, I want to know which one is communicating with me. I have felt a nearness to Jesus on occasion, but never actual personal revelation from Him. Only from my Father-in-Heaven. I feel poked and prodded by the Holy Ghost with an occasional almost verbal (ish) nudge in my mind. And the warm blanket feeling now and then. But after being in this Church my entire life, I can't say I've ever heard from Jesus. I don't mean to be disrespectful. I just want to know if I'm doing this wrong and how, in a very practical sense, to change if I am.
  21. For some reason, this has been something I haven't really understood my whole life. But I didn't realize I wasn't comprehending till maybe the last few years. I have merrily gone along in my life believing one thing but now I'm confused. I have yet to get an answer that is clear and definitive and sticks with me. This is my current understanding. Show me where I am wrong: Who do we pray to? - God the Father, Elohim through Jesus Christ as the conduit. So all communication goes through Jesus Christ to the Father. Who answers us?- God the Father through the Holy Ghost When President Nelson says " Hear Him", who are we to be hearing? God the Father? Jesus Christ? The Holy Ghost? Does it matter? Would they all answer us in the same way anyway? When we are encouraged to "have a relationship" with God, are we to develop three different relationships with three different beings? Here's why I ask- In my logical mind I have a very different relationship with a father than I would a brother. And almost no " relationship" at all with the Holy Ghost in that I don't pray or speak to that entity, only listen. There is no back and forth with the Holy Ghost. With a father I come to him to express love and thanks for all he does for me. ( He is the giver of all earthly blessings, right?) I come to him for help and advise and for a hug and comfort when I'm feeling lousy. With a brother who has been (as I understand it) the creative engineer of this earth and all that's in it and who came to earth to become half mortal so he could take on my sins, I'm ovewhelmingly humbled and grateful to him. What an amazing brother. But am I supposed to ask Him for help and advise...if I don't really pray to Him? This confusion struck me again yesterday as I listened to a BYU Education week talk and the speaker pointed out this quote by President Nelson from last April's conference "Our Father knows that when we are surrounded by uncertainty and fear, what wil help us the very most is to hear His Son... Because when we seek to hear- truly hear- His Son we will be guided to kow what to do in any circumstance." Someone help me out. How does this work?
  22. It is being reported if it's the virus that actually killed the person. The FDA would shut it down in a nanosecond. My husband works in the industry. Also we have close friends who are researchers. They have a list of friends who won't take the vaccine till they do. They offered to put me on their list. I declined. ☺️
  23. So you prefer no vaccine at all? Let's just let this thing kill as many as possible. Sound good?
  24. So he is acting as guinea pig for the Church?? That's preposterous. He's a physician! And a prophet!
  25. No why? the schools are listed in the top 10 conservative colleges in the country. they do still exist.