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    carlimac reacted to dprh in Push for Utah to mandate statewide mask wearing   
    1) Everybody is a potential carrier.  We don't know who is or isn't.  I personally don't trust other people to self-regulate to stay home when sick.
    2) Masks are a tool that helps reduce the spread of the virus.
    3) Any mask can reduce (not stop) the spread of droplets, some better than others.
    4) Being able to socialize with a mask is better than being quarantined without in-person interaction.
    5) We can't stop the viral spread, but we can slow it down so hospitals and other care units don't get overwhelmed.
    I understand the fight against government mandates requiring masks. But masks are effective.
    https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/07/20/utah-records-new/
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    carlimac got a reaction from JohnsonJones in Utahns! With COVID numbers rising, would you cancel a reunion?   
    Update: Reunion was cancelled. But the organizer said she is still using the condo and anyone else who wants to come is still invited to come. So... Really just a faux cancellation.  Hence, EVERYONE except my family are staying in the condo. 26 people. My family would have made the numbers 48 plus a couple more nephews who either don't want to or can't go would have made 55 people. - all together in this condo. An ill conceived idea even without COVID.
    My own kids ages 32 and down are much more concerned about this than even my husband and I.  My 28 yr old son in medical school has practically begged his Grandma not to go. He hasn't seen her since last Labor Day and would be devastated if she got it!   Only one of my daughters lives in Utah and she works in an Assisted Living center so she feels very strongly about being extremely careful. All the rest of us live on either the east or west coast or in Texas- areas of devastation by this virus.  The rest of the extended family live in the Salt Lake or Utah County areas.  Frankly, it's disturbing to watch the cognitive dissonance going on with them. Despite the Governor and Church leaders pleading for mask use and social distancing, nieces and nephews are forever posting stuff on social media of them with about 30 of their closest friends in different activities- not social distancing, no masks. Here are the comments or justifications I've heard-" All the positive cases are within the Hispanic communities (of which the family isn't), only 4 people in my ward have gotten it, it's just a political conspiracy, I don't know anyone who has died, well we're all seeing each other outside ( and jamming in close for photos with arms around each other), masks are just so ugly (said by 22 year old golden boy nephew), we can't cancel it because all my work reward trips were cancelled and this is my only vacation ( said in a whiney voice by a 30 year old who has already spent time at Bear Lake this summer)  and the best...Everyone is having family reunions!"   When my family says, "I'm sorry we just feel like we need to take it seriously". Or "we feel the responsibility to stay away" they get defensive and insist THEY ARE being responsible and taking it seriously.  😵 
    I hate to say this but from the outside looking in, it has the optics of a very entitled group of people unwilling to sacrifice their fun for the greater good.  My own group of 20 may sound self righteous and pompous. I admit we may be. But we just don't get their attitude at all!  Also, Grandma who has FOMO herself is still going to "sneak up there". As if you sneak, it doesn't make it real. 
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    carlimac reacted to NeuroTypical in .   
    Speaking of 'running away from all this crap', my wife lost a little hen a while ago.  She figured a dog or coyote got her.  Then, the other day, well, we found where she had run off to:

     
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    carlimac reacted to NeuroTypical in .   
    Something citified folks often don't know - the further away you get from services/amenities/roads, the cheaper the land/house.   We live on 5 acres, 10 miles away from the nearest town, and 30 miles away from my work (50+ miles when I worked in Denver).  I've commuted to work for 20 years now, quite a happy camper.  We're hardly rich.  It can be done.  I hear you clarifying "I can't afford that", with language of "would like" and "prefer" and "don't want" and "doesn't appeal".  
    I've found that joking about owning a minefield, is as satisfying as actually having all that stuff.  Our protection dog died of old age years ago, the attack turkeys do the job these days.
    You don't need to rule out living in a remote location.  Here's a pic I took looking out my back door one morning:

     
    This is not an expensive place to live.  Halfway between Colorado Springs and Denver, out of the trees, away from the mountain.  
     
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    carlimac reacted to person0 in Push for Utah to mandate statewide mask wearing   
    Your friend is wrong.  Private businesses absolutely have the right to mandate the use of masks.  Individuals like your friend are acting wrongfully.  Advocating for individual liberty and being obedient to the requests of a private organization are not mutually exclusive.  The statement he is making is that it is okay to ignore the rules of a private organization (which it isn't).  Individuals do not have the right to impose their beliefs on a private entity.  People like your friend lessen the efforts of those who respect private businesses and also advocate for individual liberty, and against government mandates.
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    carlimac got a reaction from KScience in How is the Church doing handling the latest crisis?   
    No, you clearly comandeered the ship and sailed off in a different direction. My question was not about whether the  youth of the church are stalwart or about crying at the pulpit.
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    carlimac got a reaction from SilentOne in Utahns! With COVID numbers rising, would you cancel a reunion?   
    This family has FOMO like none other. And not much medical knowledge. 82 year old finished chemo six months ago. Just wants everyone else to be happy. 
     
    The rub is that the organizer family member who personally knows the owner of the condo refuses to ask for a refund. We’ve all paid dearly into this and would lose big money. So because she still wants to have her vacation, (as well as 82 yr old and a couple others) the rest of us are obligated, or at least look like scared ninnies if we opt out. She says she’d refund us but she doesn’t have that much money. 
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    carlimac reacted to Jane_Doe in Brigham Young statue vandalized   
    I'm really sick of how things are going in general.
    We have a flawed past.  Each person is flawed.  We need to acknowledge that, learn, and move forward.  That's not achieved by erasing the past or pretending that a person is defined by a single flaw or virtue.  
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    carlimac got a reaction from JohnsonJones in Help from our leaders...   
    It sort of grew it’s own wings and flew away while I was otherwise occupied.
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    carlimac got a reaction from NeuroTypical in New insight from Elder Holland   
    https://youtu.be/RIYafkjQVn8
    I found this video with Elder Holland talking with a Jewish rabbi. It explains some of my questions about where our leaders have been lately and why we maybe haven’t heard as much from them as we would have wanted.
     
    This is where Elder Holland is personally. In my mind it really helps me to see him not just as a leader that I have all kinds of expectations for, but as an individual and fellow passenger on this crazy COVID  ship we’re on. It humanizes our leaders which is humbling to me. I appreciate them more after listening to this and don’t feel so demanding of them. 
     
    Basically this is a time of “renewal” for them. It’s almost a blessing of down time for them. 
     
    About halfway through at min 27 or 28 it takes a more theological turn. I haven’t finished listening to that part. 
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    carlimac got a reaction from Carborendum in Help from our leaders...   
    I was just hoping you’d keep the depth on the other thread. I simply wanted to know why Church leaders seem quieter than usual right now- as in the last few months and especially the last few weeks. Probably because of the quarantine and they aren’t in public gatherings and meetings where they would be quoted in the news.
    There. Answered my own question.
    I cant even begin to want to read all this yammering on the tangents you’ve gone off on, not once but twice. Start your own thread if you want to go down some extraneous rabbit hole. I’d appreciate it if you’d not do it on the relatively simple questions I’m asking. 
     
    But I’ve got to say you hooked some  whopper fish with your bait. 🙄
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    carlimac got a reaction from SilentOne in Help from our leaders...   
    I was just hoping you’d keep the depth on the other thread. I simply wanted to know why Church leaders seem quieter than usual right now- as in the last few months and especially the last few weeks. Probably because of the quarantine and they aren’t in public gatherings and meetings where they would be quoted in the news.
    There. Answered my own question.
    I cant even begin to want to read all this yammering on the tangents you’ve gone off on, not once but twice. Start your own thread if you want to go down some extraneous rabbit hole. I’d appreciate it if you’d not do it on the relatively simple questions I’m asking. 
     
    But I’ve got to say you hooked some  whopper fish with your bait. 🙄
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    carlimac got a reaction from NeedleinA in New insight from Elder Holland   
    https://youtu.be/RIYafkjQVn8
    I found this video with Elder Holland talking with a Jewish rabbi. It explains some of my questions about where our leaders have been lately and why we maybe haven’t heard as much from them as we would have wanted.
     
    This is where Elder Holland is personally. In my mind it really helps me to see him not just as a leader that I have all kinds of expectations for, but as an individual and fellow passenger on this crazy COVID  ship we’re on. It humanizes our leaders which is humbling to me. I appreciate them more after listening to this and don’t feel so demanding of them. 
     
    Basically this is a time of “renewal” for them. It’s almost a blessing of down time for them. 
     
    About halfway through at min 27 or 28 it takes a more theological turn. I haven’t finished listening to that part. 
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    carlimac got a reaction from Carborendum in Help from our leaders...   
    It sort of grew it’s own wings and flew away while I was otherwise occupied.
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    carlimac got a reaction from Carborendum in New insight from Elder Holland   
    https://youtu.be/RIYafkjQVn8
    I found this video with Elder Holland talking with a Jewish rabbi. It explains some of my questions about where our leaders have been lately and why we maybe haven’t heard as much from them as we would have wanted.
     
    This is where Elder Holland is personally. In my mind it really helps me to see him not just as a leader that I have all kinds of expectations for, but as an individual and fellow passenger on this crazy COVID  ship we’re on. It humanizes our leaders which is humbling to me. I appreciate them more after listening to this and don’t feel so demanding of them. 
     
    Basically this is a time of “renewal” for them. It’s almost a blessing of down time for them. 
     
    About halfway through at min 27 or 28 it takes a more theological turn. I haven’t finished listening to that part. 
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    carlimac got a reaction from Carborendum in New insight from Elder Holland   
    Just found out Elder Holland is in the hospital. Not COVID 19.  Praying it’s something he can recover from!
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    carlimac got a reaction from Jane_Doe in New insight from Elder Holland   
    https://youtu.be/RIYafkjQVn8
    I found this video with Elder Holland talking with a Jewish rabbi. It explains some of my questions about where our leaders have been lately and why we maybe haven’t heard as much from them as we would have wanted.
     
    This is where Elder Holland is personally. In my mind it really helps me to see him not just as a leader that I have all kinds of expectations for, but as an individual and fellow passenger on this crazy COVID  ship we’re on. It humanizes our leaders which is humbling to me. I appreciate them more after listening to this and don’t feel so demanding of them. 
     
    Basically this is a time of “renewal” for them. It’s almost a blessing of down time for them. 
     
    About halfway through at min 27 or 28 it takes a more theological turn. I haven’t finished listening to that part. 
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    carlimac got a reaction from scottyg in New insight from Elder Holland   
    https://youtu.be/RIYafkjQVn8
    I found this video with Elder Holland talking with a Jewish rabbi. It explains some of my questions about where our leaders have been lately and why we maybe haven’t heard as much from them as we would have wanted.
     
    This is where Elder Holland is personally. In my mind it really helps me to see him not just as a leader that I have all kinds of expectations for, but as an individual and fellow passenger on this crazy COVID  ship we’re on. It humanizes our leaders which is humbling to me. I appreciate them more after listening to this and don’t feel so demanding of them. 
     
    Basically this is a time of “renewal” for them. It’s almost a blessing of down time for them. 
     
    About halfway through at min 27 or 28 it takes a more theological turn. I haven’t finished listening to that part. 
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    carlimac got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in New insight from Elder Holland   
    https://youtu.be/RIYafkjQVn8
    I found this video with Elder Holland talking with a Jewish rabbi. It explains some of my questions about where our leaders have been lately and why we maybe haven’t heard as much from them as we would have wanted.
     
    This is where Elder Holland is personally. In my mind it really helps me to see him not just as a leader that I have all kinds of expectations for, but as an individual and fellow passenger on this crazy COVID  ship we’re on. It humanizes our leaders which is humbling to me. I appreciate them more after listening to this and don’t feel so demanding of them. 
     
    Basically this is a time of “renewal” for them. It’s almost a blessing of down time for them. 
     
    About halfway through at min 27 or 28 it takes a more theological turn. I haven’t finished listening to that part. 
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    carlimac got a reaction from Vort in New insight from Elder Holland   
    https://youtu.be/RIYafkjQVn8
    I found this video with Elder Holland talking with a Jewish rabbi. It explains some of my questions about where our leaders have been lately and why we maybe haven’t heard as much from them as we would have wanted.
     
    This is where Elder Holland is personally. In my mind it really helps me to see him not just as a leader that I have all kinds of expectations for, but as an individual and fellow passenger on this crazy COVID  ship we’re on. It humanizes our leaders which is humbling to me. I appreciate them more after listening to this and don’t feel so demanding of them. 
     
    Basically this is a time of “renewal” for them. It’s almost a blessing of down time for them. 
     
    About halfway through at min 27 or 28 it takes a more theological turn. I haven’t finished listening to that part. 
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    carlimac reacted to Carborendum in Help from our leaders...   
    Well, I tried to help you with that.  But you didn't answer my request for clarification.
    If you yourself are not going to participate in your own discussion, then we're going to have our own discussion.  If you want it to go back to your topic, you have to participate.
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    carlimac got a reaction from Jane_Doe in Help from our leaders...   
    Hijacked again. 😩. 
     
    I was looking for a much simpler discussion. 
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    carlimac reacted to scottyg in Help from our leaders...   
    The situation is similar when it comes to the lgbtqxyz ilk.  Simply allowing them to practice in a manner they choose is not enough.  You must also think and feel the same way they do, or else you are actually a bigot who is discriminating against them.  You must embrace their ideals.  As Giddianhi said in 3 Nephi: "Therefore I write unto you, desiring that ye would yield up unto this my people,...Or in other words, yield yourselves up unto us, and unite with us and become acquainted with our secret works, and become our brethren that ye may be like unto us...I am the governor of this the secret society of Gadianton; which society and the works thereof I know to be good."
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    carlimac got a reaction from Anddenex in Help from our leaders...   
    Perhaps another helpful message would be that to accuse others of racism, simply because you see everything through that prism, can be damaging to those you are accusing. A message about being patient with each other’s imperfections and switch up your focus if you really believe everyone is out to demean you.  There probably have been messages about this sort of thing over the years but it would be appreciated by many to hear it now, whether it’s in the form of a social media post or even an official statement. Members need to rise above this kind of mentality. And that includes a whole bunch of white skinned folks, too. Essentially, get over it and do something more Christ-like than forEVER looking for something to be offended about.
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    carlimac got a reaction from Anddenex in Help from our leaders...   
    Maybe more concerning current racial problems. I recently saw a tweet from a Church related group and it was as all complaints about how racist the Church is. I was frankly disappointed 1) If there is racism going on, Why??? and 2) That there are people in the church that seem to be looking for racism. We are expected to forgive our trespassers- of which there were many in our history. Shouldn’t the whole race and slavery stuff in the Church’s past be forgiven, too?  I can’t think of a single reason anyone should feel we are still racist.