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    carlimac got a reaction from NeuroTypical in New insight from Elder Holland   
    https://youtu.be/RIYafkjQVn8
    I found this video with Elder Holland talking with a Jewish rabbi. It explains some of my questions about where our leaders have been lately and why we maybe haven’t heard as much from them as we would have wanted.
     
    This is where Elder Holland is personally. In my mind it really helps me to see him not just as a leader that I have all kinds of expectations for, but as an individual and fellow passenger on this crazy COVID  ship we’re on. It humanizes our leaders which is humbling to me. I appreciate them more after listening to this and don’t feel so demanding of them. 
     
    Basically this is a time of “renewal” for them. It’s almost a blessing of down time for them. 
     
    About halfway through at min 27 or 28 it takes a more theological turn. I haven’t finished listening to that part. 
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    carlimac got a reaction from NeedleinA in New insight from Elder Holland   
    https://youtu.be/RIYafkjQVn8
    I found this video with Elder Holland talking with a Jewish rabbi. It explains some of my questions about where our leaders have been lately and why we maybe haven’t heard as much from them as we would have wanted.
     
    This is where Elder Holland is personally. In my mind it really helps me to see him not just as a leader that I have all kinds of expectations for, but as an individual and fellow passenger on this crazy COVID  ship we’re on. It humanizes our leaders which is humbling to me. I appreciate them more after listening to this and don’t feel so demanding of them. 
     
    Basically this is a time of “renewal” for them. It’s almost a blessing of down time for them. 
     
    About halfway through at min 27 or 28 it takes a more theological turn. I haven’t finished listening to that part. 
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    carlimac got a reaction from Carborendum in New insight from Elder Holland   
    https://youtu.be/RIYafkjQVn8
    I found this video with Elder Holland talking with a Jewish rabbi. It explains some of my questions about where our leaders have been lately and why we maybe haven’t heard as much from them as we would have wanted.
     
    This is where Elder Holland is personally. In my mind it really helps me to see him not just as a leader that I have all kinds of expectations for, but as an individual and fellow passenger on this crazy COVID  ship we’re on. It humanizes our leaders which is humbling to me. I appreciate them more after listening to this and don’t feel so demanding of them. 
     
    Basically this is a time of “renewal” for them. It’s almost a blessing of down time for them. 
     
    About halfway through at min 27 or 28 it takes a more theological turn. I haven’t finished listening to that part. 
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    carlimac reacted to Carborendum in Help from our leaders...   
    Well, I tried to help you with that.  But you didn't answer my request for clarification.
    If you yourself are not going to participate in your own discussion, then we're going to have our own discussion.  If you want it to go back to your topic, you have to participate.
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    carlimac got a reaction from Jane_Doe in Help from our leaders...   
    Hijacked again. 😩. 
     
    I was looking for a much simpler discussion. 
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    carlimac reacted to scottyg in Help from our leaders...   
    The situation is similar when it comes to the lgbtqxyz ilk.  Simply allowing them to practice in a manner they choose is not enough.  You must also think and feel the same way they do, or else you are actually a bigot who is discriminating against them.  You must embrace their ideals.  As Giddianhi said in 3 Nephi: "Therefore I write unto you, desiring that ye would yield up unto this my people,...Or in other words, yield yourselves up unto us, and unite with us and become acquainted with our secret works, and become our brethren that ye may be like unto us...I am the governor of this the secret society of Gadianton; which society and the works thereof I know to be good."
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    carlimac got a reaction from Anddenex in Help from our leaders...   
    Perhaps another helpful message would be that to accuse others of racism, simply because you see everything through that prism, can be damaging to those you are accusing. A message about being patient with each other’s imperfections and switch up your focus if you really believe everyone is out to demean you.  There probably have been messages about this sort of thing over the years but it would be appreciated by many to hear it now, whether it’s in the form of a social media post or even an official statement. Members need to rise above this kind of mentality. And that includes a whole bunch of white skinned folks, too. Essentially, get over it and do something more Christ-like than forEVER looking for something to be offended about.
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    carlimac got a reaction from Anddenex in Help from our leaders...   
    Maybe more concerning current racial problems. I recently saw a tweet from a Church related group and it was as all complaints about how racist the Church is. I was frankly disappointed 1) If there is racism going on, Why??? and 2) That there are people in the church that seem to be looking for racism. We are expected to forgive our trespassers- of which there were many in our history. Shouldn’t the whole race and slavery stuff in the Church’s past be forgiven, too?  I can’t think of a single reason anyone should feel we are still racist.
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    carlimac got a reaction from Anddenex in How is the Church doing handling the latest crisis?   
    I’m 61. Some of my earliest memories are from testimony meetings that I didn’t want to go to because people cried. I had a brother die when I was three and I learned that crying meant sadness. So I thought we were going to sad meetings every month.  Point is, this kind of emotion didn’t just start recently. I think it has always been the case. 🤷‍♀️
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    carlimac reacted to JohnsonJones in Help from our leaders...   
    I feel right now we are getting enough direction overall, in some instances perhaps too much direction...depending on which leaders you are referring to (the Prophet and the Apostles, or are you talking more locally speaking?).
    I do not see a need for them to give any great amount of direction currently.  If you listened in the past, you should have food storage to last you during the current events (or I hope so, for our fellow brothers and sisters) if resources have gotten scarce where you are at, and we also have instructionary manuals and other items that one should have for study in the home, also given in the past via instructions.
    We have been given instructions for this situation in many ways already, the question is whether one was listening and heard the instructions or not, or heeded them or cast them aside before the various items hit us.
    Some unexpected things occurred (toilet paper shortages for example) but overall, I think many have well sheltered the storm thus far. 
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    carlimac got a reaction from Midwest LDS in How is the Church doing handling the latest crisis?   
    Both my husband and I are return missionaries. Both our sons served missions. Both are BYU graduates. Now both our sons are agnostic less than a decade after their missions. We did everything right in raising them. 🤷‍♀️
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    carlimac got a reaction from askandanswer in How is the Church doing handling the latest crisis?   
    Both my husband and I are return missionaries. Both our sons served missions. Both are BYU graduates. Now both our sons are agnostic less than a decade after their missions. We did everything right in raising them. 🤷‍♀️
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    carlimac got a reaction from Vort in How is the Church doing handling the latest crisis?   
    Both my husband and I are return missionaries. Both our sons served missions. Both are BYU graduates. Now both our sons are agnostic less than a decade after their missions. We did everything right in raising them. 🤷‍♀️
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    carlimac reacted to Traveler in How is the Church doing handling the latest crisis?   
    I often wonder if a coincidence is really a coincidence.  To @carlimac's initial question - I would ask; is it a coincidence that we are studying the Book of Mormon this year?  Is it a coincidence that we are studying Alma at this point of our countries turmoils?   It is easy to become distracted.  
    I wonder about so many things.  So many things in commotion.   I have wondered what to post - my personal opinion as to where we stand at the end of time?  I never thought we would worship our Sabbath in our own homes and leave our callings and churches empty.  When we started - I did not think it would be as long as it has.  I do not know if I have any words of comfort for those that feel downtrodden.  I have no idea what is coming next on the horizon.  
    As to the riots - I am hearing that some blacks do not trust the "whites" protesting with them.  Somewhere I am thinking or remembering that Joseph Smith talked about a 2nd uprising of blacks.  I have heard that in the last days there will be a great deal of violence and the only peace will be in Zion.  In my youth I obtained a patriarchal blessing to seemed to speak of war and rebellion.  I thought to join the army to get it over with in my youth.  But after completing my obligation it did not see so - and so I thought maybe it was a reference to our next state beyond death.  I wonder now if we are hearing only faint thunders of what is coming.  This year started out not so different from other years - it seems that more and greater storm clouds keep gathering. 
    My plan is to double my repentance efforts and hope more to trust G-d and his appointed servants.  If someone wants to start a thread about repentance - I am full of ideas and things that I have never considered before about repentance.  For sure - it would seem that things are going to get quite exciting.  I often wondered when I was serving in the army - who would I like by my side in combat.  I would like to say I would want all of the forum with me - but I would not be telling the truth - but a few of you - I hope to have with me as this year progresses.  I also hope of assist some of you.
     
    The Traveler
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    carlimac got a reaction from Midwest LDS in How is the Church doing handling the latest crisis?   
    I’m 61. Some of my earliest memories are from testimony meetings that I didn’t want to go to because people cried. I had a brother die when I was three and I learned that crying meant sadness. So I thought we were going to sad meetings every month.  Point is, this kind of emotion didn’t just start recently. I think it has always been the case. 🤷‍♀️
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    carlimac got a reaction from Midwest LDS in How is the Church doing handling the latest crisis?   
    I agree that they were pretty direct back then. No political correctness needed. But the emotion I see these days feels genuine to me. I don’t believe for a second it’s manipulation of any kind.
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    carlimac got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in How is the Church doing handling the latest crisis?   
    I agree that they were pretty direct back then. No political correctness needed. But the emotion I see these days feels genuine to me. I don’t believe for a second it’s manipulation of any kind.
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    carlimac reacted to mrmarket in All foreign missionaries coming home?   
    And for those of you picking up your missionary who is inbound early don’t be like these folks. Too bad we get persecuted enough and now we hand them ammo to do it with
    https://www.deseret.com/faith/2020/3/23/21191288/missionaries-airport-mormon-lds-latter-day-saint-leaders-coronavirus-covid19
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    carlimac reacted to Moonbeast32 in Earthquake in Magna   
    I've heard that claim being disputed. Do you have a source?
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    carlimac got a reaction from MrShorty in Comical manufactured outrage at BYU   
    One of my 40ish LDS acquaintances posted on Instagram,  “I stand with the LGBTQs at BYU”.  What does that mean? Do you sanction everything they do? Do you think they are totally helpless to control that aspect of their lives so they should have the freedom to be “authentic” at BYU?   Another friend with a gay son feels the same. 

    So how do you reconcile that with church doctrine and frankly, with nature.
    I myself also stand with LGBTQ at BYU. I stand with their confusion, loneliness, the rejection they may feel from family, friends and maybe even church leaders. I stand with them as they face whatever made them that way. Abuse, dysfunctional relationships? In some cases they may have been born that way. I remember a baby with ambiguous genitalia at the hospital I worked at. Hopefully the surgeons that fixed the problem got it right but back then it was more of a crap shoot. I stand with the underdog and anyone who feels different from the majority. I feel compassion. I want to hug them and soften their pain.
    But we all have to decide where that line is when we’re standing lest they get they idea that standing WITH them means standing FOR them and condoning all that they want. Some parental emotions and midlife wokeness take people way farther over that line than is good for them or the kids they are standing with. It can be a pretty fuzzy line and can cause even more hurt and confusion!
     
     
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    carlimac got a reaction from Jedi_Nephite in Comical manufactured outrage at BYU   
    One of my 40ish LDS acquaintances posted on Instagram,  “I stand with the LGBTQs at BYU”.  What does that mean? Do you sanction everything they do? Do you think they are totally helpless to control that aspect of their lives so they should have the freedom to be “authentic” at BYU?   Another friend with a gay son feels the same. 

    So how do you reconcile that with church doctrine and frankly, with nature.
    I myself also stand with LGBTQ at BYU. I stand with their confusion, loneliness, the rejection they may feel from family, friends and maybe even church leaders. I stand with them as they face whatever made them that way. Abuse, dysfunctional relationships? In some cases they may have been born that way. I remember a baby with ambiguous genitalia at the hospital I worked at. Hopefully the surgeons that fixed the problem got it right but back then it was more of a crap shoot. I stand with the underdog and anyone who feels different from the majority. I feel compassion. I want to hug them and soften their pain.
    But we all have to decide where that line is when we’re standing lest they get they idea that standing WITH them means standing FOR them and condoning all that they want. Some parental emotions and midlife wokeness take people way farther over that line than is good for them or the kids they are standing with. It can be a pretty fuzzy line and can cause even more hurt and confusion!
     
     
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    carlimac got a reaction from mirkwood in Comical manufactured outrage at BYU   
    Gracias!
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    carlimac got a reaction from mirkwood in Comical manufactured outrage at BYU   
    For pity sakes! will one of the mods please remove two of my posts above? I kept punching submit on my phone because it looked like it wasn't going through.😜
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    carlimac got a reaction from Fether in Comical manufactured outrage at BYU   
    For pity sakes! will one of the mods please remove two of my posts above? I kept punching submit on my phone because it looked like it wasn't going through.😜
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    carlimac got a reaction from Vort in Comical manufactured outrage at BYU   
    One of my 40ish LDS acquaintances posted on Instagram,  “I stand with the LGBTQs at BYU”.  What does that mean? Do you sanction everything they do? Do you think they are totally helpless to control that aspect of their lives so they should have the freedom to be “authentic” at BYU?   Another friend with a gay son feels the same. 

    So how do you reconcile that with church doctrine and frankly, with nature.
    I myself also stand with LGBTQ at BYU. I stand with their confusion, loneliness, the rejection they may feel from family, friends and maybe even church leaders. I stand with them as they face whatever made them that way. Abuse, dysfunctional relationships? In some cases they may have been born that way. I remember a baby with ambiguous genitalia at the hospital I worked at. Hopefully the surgeons that fixed the problem got it right but back then it was more of a crap shoot. I stand with the underdog and anyone who feels different from the majority. I feel compassion. I want to hug them and soften their pain.
    But we all have to decide where that line is when we’re standing lest they get they idea that standing WITH them means standing FOR them and condoning all that they want. Some parental emotions and midlife wokeness take people way farther over that line than is good for them or the kids they are standing with. It can be a pretty fuzzy line and can cause even more hurt and confusion!