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1. It varies by family, so best thing you can do is measure what you use. 2. When I lived in south america for two years, we often had to do our laundry in an old cement tub and hang it to dry. A bar of soap and a stout brush does wonders. You dry it where you can. 3. Store what you can. My wife often will cook up some home made dog food. Not much too it, rice, beans, meat, etc. If things go really bad (i.e., no infrastructure for months and months) our dogs will be eating our table scraps and be fed some home made dog food. 4. As others mentioned, you'll need to find an alternative way to cook. Look on you tube for sun stoves and other methods. My wife has put away years worth of spices, the ones she can't grow. 5. No need to fear guns. Fear bad people who use guns, and knives, and bats, etc. A pistol for home protection is wise for anybody. A simple revolver either in .38 or .357 and a gun class is advisable. A rifle (depending on the rifle) may not be best for home protection, especially in an apartment b/c of over penetration of the fired bullet. If things go really bad, don't plan on hunting, at least not in the long term. Everybody will be out trying to kill food. If you're not a hunter now, there's almost no way you'll be able to do it when things go bad. 6. There are numerous food calculators on the web to help you know how much of each staple to put away. We have minimal powdered milk, but we also milk goats, so don't need as much. 7. No, but we have acres of dirt. We do keep seeds, extra shovels, hoes, rakes, etc. Things that will become scarce if the world goes sideways. 8. Keep as many jars as you can. We have 100s stored in our cellar and metal building. We also have a bunch full of food in the house. 9. For cans, check out shelf reliance, they have some great shelving systems. 10. We have an old electric wheat grinder and we also have a hand grinder. 11. We have quinoa, as well as other types of wheat and grains stored. You have a good plan as far as food goes, but food is only one part of survival preparedness. What if you have to leave, aka bug out? Where will you go, how will you get there? What are you going to use for water? How will you purify water? Good start.

I've had the opposite experience and have numerous people who I know who've bought wheat from various other sources. A few years back, a group of us placed a 14,000 pound order of wheat w/ the local grainery. We asked them to double wash it and then when we went to pick it up wash it again, they did, but it still was not as clean as the churches wheat. If Bosch told you that using cannery wheat would void the warranty, then I've lost all faith in Bosch as a wheat grinder company. Our ancient (25 year old) wheat grinder has easily churned through hundreds, if not, thousands of pounds of church wheat w/o a problem.

The Church actually cleans their wheat better than most other producers. Who exactly told you that using the cannery wheat would void the warranty? The cannery worker or a Bosch employee? Most wheat, oats, rice, has weevil eggs - the weevils lay their eggs in the individual pieces of wheat, rice, etc. There are various methods to prevent weevils from hatching. You can freeze, use an oxygen absorber, use dry ice, etc. If you use buckets and mylar bags, the bag protects the food and bucket protects the bag of food. You do not need to use food grade buckets. The mylar will protect the food from any impurities in the bucket. Ultimately, whether you use a can or bucket depends on the space you have available. You can use an iron to seal mylar - I've done over 40 6 gallon mylar bags this way and only two have not sealed properly.

Check this podcast from the survival podcast. link The doctor goes over a lot of common medical problems in SHTF events. Also, check out The Survival Medicine You Tube channel.

depending on the size of oxygen absorber that you have, you probably didn't put enough in the mylar bag. the o2 absorber will indeed "suck" in the bag - it will also suck in or cause five gallon buckets to pucker as well. if your bag did not suck in, you either didn't use enough absorbers or you have a leak. btw, they don't replace the oxygen, they absorb it, thus the name.

this is not exactly correct. the church still teaches to have a years supply of food. what they have added is that you should have a three month supply of the food that you eat daily. in other words, a 3 month pantry. here's why, most disasters people will go through will be of short duration and 3 months of food will get you through them easy enough. also, pandemics generally run in two six week cycles and then burn themselves out. the church has been preaching preparedness for a long time, Brigham Young, iirc, even advocated having food stored, but he encouraged seven years worth. right around the time of the great depression, the church really began to emphasize food storage. in much the same way that living righteously removes the fear of dying and being judged, having food storage removes the fear of what disasters may lie ahead, be they individual or national. if you really want to dig into what might come, the take a look at LDSLastDays.com somebody has pulled together a lot of great scriptural and church teaching references regarding present and future events. another great resource is a book called "Prophecy, Key to the Future". i think duane crowther is the author.

a little late to the party, but i'll throw in my 2 cents. as people have mentioned, your Bug Out Bag will get you through many short term emergencies. a get home bag (i.e., an emergency bag left in a car w/ the specific purpose of giving you enough supplies to walk home from work) will also add to the days you can survive away form home. if you truly want to be prepared, you'll have a bug out location (BOL) and stock it w/ some food. if you have to bug and you have no where to go, you're essentially a refugee. it'd be nice if your BOL was a secluded cabin on 100 acres w/ solar/wind power, well, etc., but the reality of it is we can't all afford that. so what do you do? you talk w/ trusted family and friends and arrange for them to be your BOL and you'll do the same for them. then you preposition some food in their house and they'll do the same in yours. you and they will be sacrificing space, but that sacrifice could save the life of a loved one. ideally, these BOLs would be in different directions and distances from you. for example, we have 3 BOLs, one to the N NW, one to the E and one to the S SE. two can be reached w/ one tank of gas of our excursion. the third would take an additional 10-15 gallons of diesel, which is easy enough to carry. if a disaster, take a nuclear explosion, occurs to our immediate west and it'll be a long term disaster, i know that the prevailing winds will push the cloud straight to us. the BOL to our N NW would be best. if you don't have friends and family close enough to function as a BOL and you're worried about your supplies being destroyed all at once, then go rent a small storage unit 30 miles away from you and put some preps there. most of the disasters that would chase us from our homes are, usually, going to be localized, for example, a tornado, most hurricanes, most wild fires, etc. this way, you always have some extra supplies. also, we should have a close BOL and ones far away. the close one would be used if, for example, your house burned down.

ar15.com has a great survival forum - it's in their outdoor area. parts of ar15 are rather brash - the survival forum and some of the other forums their are more heavily moderated and kept on topic and family friendly, for the most part. Survival Podcast has a wealth of info - make sure you also listen to his podcasts - he also has youtube videos. he's got info ranging from gardening to food storage to self defense planning/weapons. really good info. SurvivalBlog.com Alpha Disaster Contingencies lots of really good practical knowledge - a little hardcore and comes across as arrogant, but great info. HURRICANE KATRINA good info from the perspective of surviving hurricane katrina - good real world example. the first two i listed will provide you w/ tons of information - the survival podcast is probably the most most user friendly. i've yet to find a survival forum, except zions camp, that does not have the occasional salty language, so be forewarned. zions camp is not a pure survival forum, however. i've lurked here a while, but joined so i could give some good resources as we all know they'll be needed. oddly my post count shows up as two, also, this is the first post i've made. people on ldsavow are, for the most part loons, w/ the occasionally sane person thrown in. the owners of the board are somewhat out there - i'll leave it at that. now i'll go back to lurking.