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I have had this question before, and I have been told that while the unworthy spouse will not be sealed, but the worthy spouse will basicly be able to find another spouse that is worthy to be sealed with. Of course, the touchy parts would be the heartakes when a man marries a widow who is already sealed, and keeps the older husband sealing. So the husband spends his phisical life unsealed while rasing a family. Of course, it most likely worse the other way around, get sealed, pass away, and then the wife decides to be sealed to another man. And find yourself unsealed....

Well, In a ideal world, I will meet a nice girl who also has a Recommend, and when we decide to marry, it will be a simple affair of going to the temple and getting sealed and married. However, the reality is that at my location, finding a unmarried mormon over 18 years old is tough, let alone one that also has a temple recommend, It may very well be that I meet a non-church member. It is hard enough to wait when your young and virginal, but those who are already married or lived a secular life, it is 100x harder, and I wouldn't risk transgressions waiting a year when you know you intend to marry. There is nothing wrong with a civil marriage, it is just that you have blessings from the sealing that you do not get with a civil marriage.

From D&C Thus saith the Lord concerning all those who know my power, and have been made partakers thereof, and suffered themselves through the power of the devil to be overcome, and to deny the truth and defy my power–They are they who are the sons of perdition, of whom I say that it had been better for them never to have been born; For they are vessels of wrath, doomed to suffer the wrath of God, with the devil and his angels in eternity; Concerning whom I have said there is no forgiveness in this world nor in the world to come. Having denied the Holy Spirit after having received it, and having denied the Only Begotten Son of the Father, having crucified him unto themselves and put him to an open shame. These are they who shall go away into the lake of fire and brimstone, with the devil and his angels– And the only ones on whom the second death shall have any power; Yea, verily, the only ones who shall not be redeemed in the due time of the Lord, after the sufferings of his wrath (D&C 76:32-38). And the book of Moses shows that even the Sons of Perdition will have power over Satan, as at least they did not rebel at the time of Lucifer. If thou doest well, thou shalt be accepted. And if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door, and Satan desireth to have thee; and except thou shalt hearken unto my commandments, I will deliver thee up, and it shall be unto thee according to his desire. And thou shalt rule over him; For from this time forth thou shalt be the father of his lies; thou shalt be called Perdition; for thou wast also before the world.

Due to bad weather - I went to the temple without any offical Prepping, however I had done a lot of research so when they went down the list of things, I had only one question or two. So I don't have a book. However, I am going to talk about how a old college friend ended up being not only the person baptizing me , but also the one who was my escort in the temple, and how you never know when your being a member missionary. Think that should get me to 15 mins.

Right now I have an "Evil Spock" type Beard. The brother who baptized me is also a fan of the beard. We joked about it when he went with me and escorted me though the temple. The reason for the no-beard policy (As I understand it) comes from the fact for years the face of Mormon polygamy was bearded Utah Elders (Think Young, Taylor, Woodruff, Snow, J. F. Smith, and Heber F. Grant) and when David O. McKay became the prophet, one of the things he did was put a new face on the church, as a clean shaven Monogamist. There is still some worry that if a church leader sported a beard, that they might call back some of that.

It was my first visit (excuding my Proxy-baptism visist) I went rather boring, starting off with a defintion that I like from Orson Scott Card, then I talk about me traveling to Salt Lake, and how it a change from the non-ritual of the sacreament to a heavily ritual based, the sense of peace in temple, closer to god and christ, and wrapped up with a quick testamony.

If this is in the wrong place, mods please move it... I am a convert to the church, converted near my 30th birthday, and now have been a member of the church for over a year, and have received my endowments. This isn't meant as a rant, or bitterness, just had to get something off my chest as this issue is the greatest threat to my testimony, and I have just gotten canned answers from the priesthood leaders, and I guess I need to vent a bit. For the first 25 years, I lived a mostly secular life, but it was empty and I fell more and more into faith. When I was 29 I read the Book of Mormon, and within a few months I joined the church. I am a rather faithful member, hold two callings at the branch, received the priesthood, hold a temple recommend, and so on. My girlfriend (which we had a hot and cold relationship) broke off the relationship with me when I joined the church. I live in "the Mormon hinterlands" of North Carolina, I drive 50 mins to an hour each way to the branch, as it is one county over. I wasn't too worried as it had a college feel to it as it located in a college town, and there was an active young people's group. Then most people graduated or married and moved. Suddenly I found myself as the only two single adult (Quasi-young single adult) under the age of 40 and over 18. Stake single events are non-existent. LDS has a bad reputation in this area (Lot of showings of "The godmakers" a few years back) and I have had two blind dates with non-members end the date when they found out I was Mormon. So I focused on improving myself, diet, exercise, and loss 4 inches of waistline, still no luck. Tried to get more then a sentence out of the other single adult in my age range and have failed, though I have been told she is terribly shy and it’s nothing I did. Eharmony said no matches, I was a member of LDSplanet but it was depressing. Heck, I even did the crazy thing of asking out a returned Lady Missionary who lived out in Utah when I was out there to get my endowments (A polite no, but I was thinking that was a long shot). I have asked my church friends what I am doing wrong, if I stink, look crazy, or so on. They confirm that I do not stink, that I am normal acting and not odd, and that when I joined I was heavy, but I have since slimmed down to a point where weight is not an issue. I talked to the President about it, and he told me not to worry, that I was an active member with a good job and a good personality, and that I don't need to worry, but he points out that he cannot really understand me fully, as he was married in his younger 20s. When I did my Temple recommend Interview with the Stake President, he reminded me of my priesthood duty to get sealed. So I rather bluntly told him "If you know any single girls, please let me know" and assured him that I was not a careerist with any interest in getting married. He then added "You will be a great catch to the girl that marries you". Just that there are no fish in the sea... I am just wondering how many other people are in the same boat as I am, latter 20ish early 30ish single converts who are feeling very out of place. Since I lived a secular life, I know at least part of what I am missing out on, and it’s been VERY tough. And here I thought the words of wisdom were going to be the tough row to hoe. In this economy it is hard to move, as some recommended for me to move to Utah, and nothing personal about those who live in Utah, but I could go there if there was a women there waiting for me, but for me to cut all my friends and family connections and be single and Mormon would be very hard existence. (That, and in Utah I would pressed into the Single Adult Wards, which I do not want). Guess I am just wondering if there are other LDS folks in the same spot, or am I the odd outlier that not going to get much support due to the odd nature of my situation.

I will say this. It is very tough, it is hellish. I know, A drunk driver killed mine. Life will get better, but as I understand it, that there is a chance that one day you will be sealed, but it will be after your passing and resurrection. It is very tough, but your life is not over, and once you get going, you can hopefully find someone living that you can spend at least a life, if not Eternity with. I will have to say a prayer for you.

I have a talk sunday on my first visit to the temple, at it supposed to be 15 mins... Well, right now I am about 8 mins, Any good scripture, comments, and so on to talk about? I need some fluff

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I am also was someone who grew up Luthren, went exploring, and ended up reading the book of Mormon. Six months later I visited the local branch, and three months after that, I found myself getting dunked by a old college suitemate. Of course, I have met a lot of Former Luthren coverts to the LDS church, so I wonder if Luthren's who have a hard time agreeing with the trinity or "Grace Alone" are "Freezed dried LDS, just add water"

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For years, the eiffel tower was thought of as the ugliest thing known to man. Thankfully, the french didn't tear it down.

When G_d, our heavenly Father does forgive and forget when you repent. However, us humans are not at that stage yet, and in relationships, it is best to be honest. A lie, even a little one, can ruin all too many relationships. Ten years ago I wasn't that great of a person, heck, five years ago i wasn't that great of a person. For example, I had a wonderful GF that I made a major mistake in our relationship, and needless to say, she doesn't want to talk to me anymore. If I started to date a girl and was asked "have you made X mistake" with X mistake being that what I did with that girlfriend, I would honestly say that I goofed up a relationship, and learned the hard way what happens.

I am actually horridly shy, but have learned to deal with it. The good news is that LDS are nice almost to a rule. I still have a hard time in social group settings, (I can speak in public in front of hundreds, or talk one on one, but if it a get together, I am a wall flower) but use your shyness to a advantage, learn to listen to folks, and soon you will get to know people and be well thought of.