idk...the discussion had its relevance...I'm coming from someone who has engaged in wonderful conversations on, for the sake of comparison, a necklace, that stagnates after focus concentrates on two different facets of a gem, when the topic is of a greater scope..the necklace. Important to appraise down to the facet...but burdensome to one who is a layman. Important to recognize alternative values, or definitions and it IS appreciated. Just, I've been mired in conversations revolving around a subtopic (which we actually both agree on) that we choose to express differently.