jpayne39

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  1. Yes I have fasted. I have prayed about this for months. We have been to the celestial room together. We have done our homework, I assure you. We both feel great about dating and proceeding with our relationship. My father had a stroke in January. This experience with her and her father has been way more tolling than my dad's stroke. I am down twenty pounds from the emotional toll this has been. So yeah, I have prayed about it.
  2. This is also a fear. To me, her dad's "vision" doesn't make sense for a couple reasons... First of all, Why? Why have this vision? Does telling a 14 year old girl that she will one day marry a Mark help her or cause tons of problems? It has created tons of problems in her life. The fruits of this vision have been stress and arguing with her family. Second, if this revelation really is true, why not keep it to himself until it happens? That way it can be faith building. Instead, he uses it as a way of controlling who she dates. I have had her get to know my parents, who are totally normal and not fanatical. She can see the difference in my parents attitude and that of her parents. My parents have told us, "Whatever suits you. You have to live with each other, not us. This is your decision." I can see guiding you child with principles, but there are no principles being taught here other than "follow Dad and don't disobey." If I treated her bad, was unworthy, in debt, selfish, controlling, needy, or anything else concerning, I could understand her parents saying, "_____________, we think they way he acts is a red flag. Let's talk about it." Instead, I am loving, giving, caring, ambitious, active, mature and a good provider. Her parents don't have a leg to stand on. My bishop is ready to strangle her dad.
  3. Holy smokes! I have to show her "Only You." Maybe I should play her dad's game and say,"Sweetie, I don't know what this movie is about, but the Spirit has told me that you and I need to watch it." I agree with the counsel given by you guys that the meeting needs to be more of an "informing" meeting as opposed to a "permision-asking" meeting.
  4. We have talked at length about it. We are on the same page. When we broke up, she had a very trusting view of her father and that he could do no wrong. She honestly believed in the vision. It was something that she has been told for 10 years. She honestly believed since she was a little girl that she would marry a brown haired man named Mark. She has now, because of the experience dating me, dropped all confidence in the "vision." She knows it is not right. She has talked to her singles ward bishop who has told her the same. So now we are a team trying to approach her parents. So the question is, a letter? An email? Face-to-face? Her alone? Both of us?
  5. Also, has anybody heard of any church talks that would help her dad?
  6. I have been dating a wonderful girl for 7 months. She is perfect. She is 24 and I am 28. We both are return missionaries and are trying to prepare for marriage. Here is the problem: Her father had a dream when she was 14 where he "envisioned" the man she would marry and was told his name would be "Mark." My name is not "Mark." After we had been dating about 2 months, her dad called her up and basically said he could not sleep and the Spirit told him that I wasn't "the one" for her. Also, I didn't match any of the characteristics of his "vision." She has a respect for her father, so she broke up with me without telling me why. This lasted about 10 days before both of us were so miserable without each other that we got back together. She has not told her father that we have been dating for the last 5 months. When she visits on Sundays, her parents suspect we are dating and make sly comments like "We hope you aren't dating (insert my name). It would be a waste of time. Remember your fathers dream." We are both completely temple worthy. I have received a confirmation that she is marriage material and I should be proposing soon. I can't because of her parents. I know for 100% certainty that her dads dream is bunk. It feels horrible and evil to me when we talk about it. Another thing: Her dad is a bishop and tells her that he still has stewardship over her and can receive revelation for her even though she is 24, a return missionary, college graduate, and doesn't live at home. So here is the question: How do her and I resolve this so we can move forward with an engagement?