mordorbund

Members
  • Content Count

    5698
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    14

Reputation Activity

  1. Like
    mordorbund reacted to Carborendum in The COVID thread   
    Remember, we're NEVER going to become a police state:
    https://kdvr.com/news/man-arrested-in-front-of-daughter-at-brighton-park-for-allegedly-violating-social-distancing/
  2. Haha
    mordorbund reacted to Jamie123 in A fun quarantine game I play with my wife   
    The best part is being woken up out of a sound sleep at 2 a.m. to catch spiders, and when you're balancing precariously on a wobbly swivel chair, trying to reach the ceiling with an empty Pringles can (in which to receive Mr. Incey-Wincey Spider) your assembled family demand to know why you don't just kill it.
    Well...as James Henry Trotter once said: 
    ‘I must NEVER kill a spider I must only help and guide her And invite her in the nursery to play.’ On a related topic...
     
  3. Like
    mordorbund got a reaction from Vort in CNN's overt patronization is unbelievable.   
    1st off, congratulations (pre-)boomer.
    Look, are we under martial law or not? If we are then proclaiming looters will be shot is not sensationalist enough to warrant a headline. If we're not then this is ridiculous.
  4. Like
    mordorbund got a reaction from Vort in CNN's overt patronization is unbelievable.   
    1st off, congratulations (pre-)boomer.
    Look, are we under martial law or not? If we are then proclaiming looters will be shot is not sensationalist enough to warrant a headline. If we're not then this is ridiculous.
  5. Sad
    mordorbund reacted to Scott in LAWYER HELP REQUESTED   
    This seems very mild compared to what is happening now.  It's hard to believe that this was only posted six days ago.
  6. Haha
    mordorbund reacted to Vort in Row, row, row your boat SURPRISE ENDING!!!   
    ^^ uncomfortable with existential inquiry ^^
  7. Like
    mordorbund reacted to prisonchaplain in Coffee as a Prescriptoin   
    I'm not one to criticize an LDS interpretation of an LDS holiness standard. So, I simply ask the question: Is the WoW really about taking care of the body and mind (i.e. physical and mental health)? If so, during the pancreatic cancer scare of the 1970s the WoW would have been a common sense boon that most non-LDS Christian might have done well to pick up on. Alas, the 1990s came along and coffee was/is considered healthy for most. It's natural, often organic, and has lots of antioxidants. Also, 2 grams of fiber per cup.
    Might there be more to the WoW? I recall an orthodox rabbi (Daniel Lapin, Mercer Island, WA) being asked why Jews don't eat shrimp. Was it for health reasons, the questioner asked. No. Not for that. Well, what then? The rabbi's answer is classic:  BECAUSE GOD SAID NO.
    It may yet turn out that coffee is more bad than good. To my knowledge, the medical field has not reached that conclusion. Likewise with alcohol--especially wine. Nevertheless, I don't drink wine and you don't drink coffee. Why? We believe that God said no...whether through prophetic admonition, scriptural injunction, or a combination of biblical counsel and social understanding.
    BTW, I agree with most that it is unlikely that coffee is the only solution. Even if the answer is warm caffeinated liquid, if I were a member I'd rather nuke a cup of Coke than violate a basic holiness code of my church.
  8. Haha
    mordorbund reacted to Vort in CNN's overt patronization is unbelievable.   
  9. Like
    mordorbund got a reaction from Vort in CNN's overt patronization is unbelievable.   
    1st off, congratulations (pre-)boomer.
    Look, are we under martial law or not? If we are then proclaiming looters will be shot is not sensationalist enough to warrant a headline. If we're not then this is ridiculous.
  10. Thanks
    mordorbund reacted to prisonchaplain in Almost saved   
    Call and response is more common in the south, and in African-American congregations. We have a bit, but it's more like, "Can I get an 'amen'?" and then a few will say 'amen.' This may happen up to a half dozen times in a 40-minute sermon. In my case, I might call for such once or not at all. Still, yes, it was strange using this format at first. My classes tend to rely heavily on discussion, so offering a continuous lecture with no feedback (I'm also trained as an elementary school teacher and so am used to feedback via nods and looks of understanding) was a bit challenging.
  11. Thanks
    mordorbund got a reaction from Carborendum in New Temple Predictions   
    Wayback machine shows this page existed back in June. https://web.archive.org/web/20190606070508/https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/China
    But mention of Shanghai wasn't there back in January.
  12. Thanks
    mordorbund got a reaction from Carborendum in New Temple Predictions   
    Wayback machine shows this page existed back in June. https://web.archive.org/web/20190606070508/https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/China
    But mention of Shanghai wasn't there back in January.
  13. Haha
    mordorbund got a reaction from Carborendum in Row, row, row your boat SURPRISE ENDING!!!   
    I called him a "green-blooded ..... Vulcan".
    It allows the mind to explore options.
  14. Haha
    mordorbund got a reaction from Carborendum in Row, row, row your boat SURPRISE ENDING!!!   
    I called him a "green-blooded ..... Vulcan".
    It allows the mind to explore options.
  15. Like
    mordorbund reacted to laronius in Conditions that make agency possible   
    I would add one more: read as though it was talking about us. For me that is where I gain my greatest understanding, when I ask "How does that apply to my life?"
  16. Like
    mordorbund reacted to Carborendum in Conditions that make agency possible   
    I'm convinced that were supposed to read it on three levels.
    Read it as if it were completely literal. Read it as if it were completely figurative. Read it as if it were the skeleton of a literal story with a lot of imagery, symbolism, and figurative storytelling to fill in that skeleton. With each of these reads, we get different information and knowledge which I think is all true on some level.  These are like looking through only one eye.  It appears to be a compete picture.  But it isn't. 
    It is then important to see it from a mixture of all three reads.  Like our eyes each see a slightly different picture, using both eyes allows us to see an image with additional benefits such as depth perception and its subsequent effects.
  17. Like
    mordorbund got a reaction from JohnsonJones in Slaughtered my Name and now my Image   
    For your consideration, "Mormon Church" has never been approved as a nickname for the Church of Jesus Christ, although "Mormon" has been embraced in the past as a nickname for its saints.
    https://askgramps.org/nickname-mormon-victory-adversary/
  18. Haha
    mordorbund reacted to Vort in I'm so excited!   
    That's to quiet @mirkwood's U of U contingent.
  19. Haha
    mordorbund reacted to mirkwood in A fun quarantine game I play with my wife   
    Why are you doing it like that?
  20. Haha
    mordorbund got a reaction from Vort in Row, row, row your boat SURPRISE ENDING!!!   
  21. Haha
    mordorbund got a reaction from Vort in Row, row, row your boat SURPRISE ENDING!!!   
  22. Haha
    mordorbund reacted to Vort in Row, row, row your boat SURPRISE ENDING!!!   
    A child's rhyme:
    Row, row, row your boat
    Gently down the stream
    Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily
    Life is but a dream.
    WHOA! That last line came out of NOWHERE! You're going along in a fun, simple, almost nonsensical verse, perhaps singing it as a round, when suddenly...
    Philosophical conundrum! EXISTENTIAL CRISIS! NIHILISM!
    Is this a bait-and-switch designed to draw in our precious children, then suck the life out of them? Or is it a brutal but ironically necessary inoculation of the very young against the ravages of cynicism, alerting them from the beginning of the ephemeral nature of life itself?
    I take comfort in knowing that at least we don't have any nursery rhymes that celebrate brutal, painful death from something like the black plague.
  23. Like
    mordorbund got a reaction from Vort in Playing with opposite gender--primary age   
    I think it's great that you're already thinking of the standards in For the Strength of Youth. About every other year our family has a Family Home Evening on church milestones. At 8 you're baptized, 12 you perform baptisms for the dead, 14 you can attend dances, at 16 you can date, and at 18 you're own your own (with priesthood ordinations sprinkled in for the boys). This sets the framework for the ongoing reinforcement of our family standards.
    I'd recommend you also determine what your family standards are and move forward with those. I imagine your daughter has a bedtime that you were able to set without worry about if other parents thought you prudish. Do the same with your other family standards.
    Since that particular standard at hand is concern about young dating, I'll mention a resource for your consideration. The Church has published a A Parent's Guide to aid parents as a sort of sex-ed (including hygiene, social respect, and of course reproduction) broken down by age brackets. 
     
    And as long as I have this mike, I'll post some of my own observations on young children. At age 4-5, girls start forming "power triangles". It's a social dynamic where girls try to be the queen bee (and part of the primary power triangle) and exercise power over other girls. The malicious form (these groups don't have to be malicious, but those are the ones to look out for) of this has the queen bee playing power games at the expense of other girls - within her own triangle by including and excluding girls that had been excluded and included before, and over others in general. Even though your daughter is older than this, this dynamic never really goes away, so train your child on how to navigate her integrity inside and outside of these groups.
    At this age boys have a physicality they aren't sure what to do with. The training they need from this age onward is they don't use their strength (strength will grow into other power and influence, but we start with strength) to hurt others. And they use their strength to help and defend others. And just like you taught your daughter how to handle herself when other girls are abusing their social cache, you should also teach your daughter how to handle herself when boys abuse their physical strength.
    At age 6-7, girls start bringing boys into the power triangle. The boys aren't really part of the triangle, but they can be brought in or out as a way to show power. Additionally, they begin to show interest in experimenting with more advanced forms of relationships. They begin to look into the boyfriend/girlfriend dynamic. That's not to say your daughter is, but she certainly has friends who are claiming to have a boyfriend. At this stage, what a boyfriend is/does is nebulous but significant. It's a clear milestone! At this age it's probably better to focus on what sort of one-on-one behaviors are socially appropriate and which are not.
    At this age boys are learning more about the social hierarchy among boys. I don't believe I've noticed one initiate the bf/gf dynamic, but they'll go along with it if asked.
    At 8-9 boys will begin bringing girls into the social dynamic. Having a girlfriend becomes a status symbol. Not that your daughter's friend views it like this, but there are boys she knows at this age who are experimenting with this new social relationship. She may be approached for a date or to be someone's girlfriend and should know how to handle that scenario.
    At 10-12 girls learn that sex is power. They notice that boys wear a goofy look when they sit too close. They notice older women with their makeup get what they want. As with social and physical cases earlier, they need to be taught not to abuse this power and to recognize examples of that abuse.
    I haven't observed much beyond that, so after the next few years you're on your own.
  24. Haha
    mordorbund reacted to Vort in MormonGator's wonderful dream last night   
    When Metallica kicks you out of the band because you party too much, you know you have a problem.
  25. Like
    mordorbund reacted to Just_A_Guy in The COVID thread   
    Weird thought here, and I don’t know if I actually believe it; but I thought I’d float it for public dissection:
    I’m not convinced our society values human life as much as we like to say we do.
    How often have we (especially those of us who are theologically or socially conservative) heard folks gloat about the impending die-off of people whose worldview is as backwards as our own?
    What if we could have a guarantee that the ONLY victims of COVID-19 would be two hundred thousand neo-Nazis?  Or two hundred thousand seniors over the age of 95?  Or two hundred thousand viable fetuses between 6-9 months of gestation?  Or two hundred thousand trans-sexuais?
    Would we deliberately push ourselves into a depression—Dow Jones under 10K, 20%+ unemployment, skyrocketing homeless rates—for the sake of those two hundred thousand distant, relatively powerless—perhaps even repulsive—individuals?  Or would we say “you know, that loss is unfortunate, but ultimately not worth the sacrifice of preventing it”?
    And, a darker thought:
    As Mormons who constitute less than 2% of the US population (and an increasingly unpopular minority, at that)—do we think our countrymen would make those kinds of sacrifices on our behalf?  
    I rather don’t think they would.
    Whatever’s driving this reaction to COVID-19—I wonder whether it truly is a universally consistent regard for human life per se.  I wonder whether we’re actually doing it out of fear that the pandemic will strike someone within our own social sphere.  Perhaps all this talk of regard for human life is less of an ideological motivator, than a bludgeon to be used to socially shame people whose noncompliance we perceive as a threat to our own safety?