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Read James 2:17-26 and then chapter 4. We're saved by grace through our faith in Christ and that same faith is dead without works. We will be judged according to our works as taught in Revelation 20.

Christ is our Lord our God while God the Father is the one true God as Christ himself taught. The nature of God the Father and Jesus Christ are pretty clear in the scriptures.

Just now saw this. I think this answer puts things into perspective: Jesus Christ is the SON of God.

Missionaries

I'm including that. If I read something I don't understand I keep reading it over and over as well as before and after.

Wow. Syrup. That part got my attention lol.

The Book of Mormon doesn't take as long as people think it does to read. You can do it in 1 month tops. I read about 1/4 of it in less than a week including the testimonies and introduction page.

The point I'm making isn't that members that don't read it are bad people. I'm just curious as to why people see it as such a small thing to read.

Their purpose is the same, they just need to seek the gospel of Jesus Christ.

I'm looking up this very thing so I thought I'd answer. I wouldn't say you can't lose your salvation. Someone brought up blasphemy against the Holy Ghost. If you proclaim Christ as your Savior but later blaspheme against the Holy Ghost you lose your salvation because Christ taught this is an unforgivable sin. 2 Sam. 7:15 But my mercy shall not depart away from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before thee.

True. The Apocrypha can be declared to be as old as the Old Testament. I do like the rest of what you said in regards to giving D&C 88. I do believe the Apocrypha is important. If it wasn't then Joseph Smith would have no need to tell about it being mostly correct. I trust his judgment seeing how he was a prophet of God. I wonder if people would feel the same if it was someone like John, Peter, or Matthew that addressed the Apocrypha.

No, I will not deal with your mouth. One of our cars wouldn't crank for a bit yesterday, we had to take the other one to get checked out yesterday, and my aunt died at 2AM yesterday morning and the funeral is tomorrow. Her death was just 2 months after one of my uncles shot himself. I am not in the mood to put up with how you usually are.

New church pet peeve: Some of the members Well, I wouldn't call it new. Just something I forgot to put.

It's good that we're given what there is in regards to the war in heaven though.

Nope. You don't mind the rosary yet you don't see the need for for reading the Apocrypha even though Joseph Smith, a prophet of God, said it's mostly correct. The purpose of this thread is what I said in the original post. What is people's feelings toward the rosary considering what Matthew 6 says. Why do you bother saying anything? All you do is say negative things to me and right now I'm not in the mood.

Wow. So you people pray the rosary yet have a problem with reading the Apocrypha.

The difference is the prayer for sacrament and baptism come from scriptures.

I know the Lord's Prayer. I'm referring to the rest. What's your reason for always criticizing something I put? Obviously you don't understand Matthew 6 so just leave the answering to people who do. Ok?

No. You can make a picture like that with photoshop.

As we know, many people pray this "Rosary" because they believe it is holy. What is your opinion on it considering Matthew 6:7? But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

I didn't say it's about baptism for the dead. I said the belief in the dead being saved from their sins is similar to how we believe baptism for the dead is for.

It's spoken of in both a positive and negative way because it holds some truths but also some fabrications by man. However, if we read with the Spirit then we would know what's not true. Joseph Smith himself said the Apocrypha is mostly correct so I don't see why members don't read it.

Agreed. The Apocrypha is still historically important. Not just that but many scholars have said Joseph Smith made up the word "Nephi" while Nephi is in the Apocrypha. What's interesting is the nature of Nephi in the Book of Mormon and what the name is said to mean in 2 Maccabees. Nephi, according to 2 Maccabees, means a cleansing. Nephi as well as the others came from Jerusalem where most of the people were rebelling against the teachings of the prophets. The tribe Nephi, Lehi and their family was part of seemed to be part of the rebelling ones so I guess you could say Nephi was the one "cleansing" the name of the tribe of Manasseh.

2 Maccabees 12:43 And when he had made a gathering throughout the company to the sum of two thousand drachms of silver, he sent it to Jerusalem to offer a sin offering, doing therein very well and honestly, in that he was mindful of the resurrection: 44 For if he had not hoped that they that were slain should have risen again, it had been superfluous and vain to pray for the dead. 45 And also in that he perceived that there was great favour laid up for those that died godly, it was an holy and good thought. Whereupon he made a reconciliation for the dead, that they might be delivered from sin. Although this doesn't speak of baptism for the dead, it does note that the dead must also be delivered from their sins similar to our belief in the baptism for the dead so their sins can be washed away. The apocrypha isn't regarded as being the same level as the scriptures but they're not to be taken lightly either.

Why do many members of the church not read the Apocrypha? I understand what D&C 91 says about it but it also says to let the Spirit guide you if you read it so you may know what's true and what isn't. Who's read any of the Apocrypha?