Martain

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    Martain got a reaction from Sunday21 in Does Satan Have any Influence in a Temple?   
    I know what you mean. I picked up the same teaching somewhere but I have no clue where. I too have looked and been unable to find anything doctrinal in nature would states such protection.
    While the adversary can tempt us without the aid of an external stimulus, it's obvious to me that he succeeds more when there is one.
    Isn't it harder to tempt someone to drink alcohol when there isn't any around? Isn't it harder to tempt someone to think unchaste thoughts when there's no one dressed immodestly?
    Of course that doesn't mean the adversary doesn't try, it's simply much less effective without corresponding physical stimuli.
    Could not the same be said for the Lord as well? While the Lord can entice us to do good without the aid of an external stimuli, isn't it easier for him when nearby there is stimuli which invites to do the same?
    If someone tells us they love us, aren't we more likely to express love in return? If someone talks about the Lord and bears their testimony, are we not more likely to ponder the divine?
    In the temple then we have a place where the physical stimuli used by the adversary are not present and those used by the Lord are. This then would limit the effectiveness of the adversary in tempting one within and increase the effectiveness of the Lord in enticing one to be righteous.
    While I do not know whether such protection was available originally and was lost over time by unclean members entering or whether such protection was never intended I can say this:
    I know for a fact that such complete protection is not currently available in the temples I have visited and my knowledge is not based off of me inviting them in either.
    Individuals will disagree regarding whether or not evil spirits can enter yet my caution remains the same. Do not blindly accept all spiritual communication received in the temple as of God.
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    Martain got a reaction from NightSG in Unworthy Temple Work   
    Isn't it amazing the direction a thread might go compared to the original direction indicated?
    There are indeed times where the person performing an ordinance is unworthy to do so. Yet I've never run into a case where they've done so without the authority to perform them.
    By this I mean that were an unworthy priest to bless the sacrament, that is on his head and the ordinance is still official for you.
    Yet if my sisters were to get up and bless the sacrament, me taking it from them wouldn't do anything for me.
    As to the rest of the conversation:
    Say I know someone has committed serious sin. How does it harm the sinner that I bring it to their bishops attention? How does it harm me?
    Isn't the commandment not "judge not" but rather "judge not unrighteously"? Could we not therefore say it is a commandment to "judge rigtheously"? If sufficient proof is evident before me to allow me to judge righteously and I do not do so, would this not be a sin of omission?
    If someone you know commits a crime and you stay silent, are you not enabling their behavior? Isn't it possible that by speaking up to the authorities they might have stopped? If you don't speak up and they continue in crime, are you not partially accountable?
    If someone you know commits a serious sin and you stay silent, are you not also enabling their behavior? Isn't it possible that by speaking up to the proper authority, such as their bishop, that they might stop? If they don't stop and continue in sin, are you not also partially accountable?
    These are some serious questions that each of us must weigh in our hearts and determine our own answers.
    Lets say I know someone who is committing adultery or fornication. Perhaps they confessed it to me. Perhaps I saw them in the act. Perhaps they posted an indecent picture on their Facebook account. Now they may have spoken with the Bishop but I would have no way of knowing if they had. Yet I see them taking the sacrament or performing a sacred ordinance such as serving in the temple and I'm concerned.
    Are they not drinking damnation to their souls by taking the sacrament? Are they not mocking God by unworthily performing the sacred ordinances and therein incurring the condemnation and wrath of a Just God against them?
    Does it not become that much more difficult to repent of such sin the longer they do it?
    Do you want to leave them in that condition when by a few words to their bishop you might start the repentance process that much sooner?
    It is my civic duty to report crime to the authorities. In that same manner, is not also a duty to report serious sin as well?
    I discussed this topic with my family and my father did have some pertinent advice. Any sin which is predatory in nature should be reported. Predatory as in hurting or harming others.
    Gossip is defined as the casual or unconstrained conversation or reports about other people, typically involving details that are not confirmed as being true.
    Backbiting is defined as malicious talk about someone who is not present.
    No one likes being a tattletale. Yet it takes courage to step forward. Reporting something you believe or know to be true to the proper authorities is not wrong and it is neither gossip or backbiting.
    If I were sinning and unrepentant and by another person bringing it to my bishops attention I in the end repent, I would be profoundly grateful that someone was brave enough to speak up rather than leave me wallowing in sin.
    I feel we must each weigh this matter in our own heart and determine our conduct therefrom. I will not condemn someone for not reporting serious sin and I hope that they will not condemn me for reporting it.
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    Martain got a reaction from Average Joe in The LDS Law of Adoption   
    It's very sad but I'm not surprised that the movement above misunderstands the Law of Adoption as even Brigham Young didn't understand it either.
    In the Joseph Smith History (1:39) we have Moroni quoting the text of Malachi to Joseph but changing the words slightly to say, “And he shall plant in the hearts of the children the promises made to the fathers, and the hearts of the children shall turn to their fathers. If it were not so, the whole earth would be utterly wasted at his coming.” (JS-H: 1:39)
    The law wasn't that you were sealed to some to a man in a father son relationship but that you, like Abraham, have planted within you and then seek out and obtain the promises made to 'The Fathers'. It wasn't a linkup to your own dead who after all are in need of you, rather it was a linkup to those Father's who were worthy and who are already saved. It is welding a direct link between you and them bypassing all of those generations between you to where you are adopted directly into the Family of God.
    I feel very inadequate to explain it to others having only come to an understanding of it myself but I know of someone who explains it very well and with great simplicity by use of the scriptures.
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    Martain got a reaction from NightSG in Banning sex offenders   
    Agreed. To mind is the false saying, "The end justifies the means". If we were to accept this as true, then we should have voted for Satan who indicated that the ends (eternal life) justified the means (destroy agency).
     
     
    The mind staggers and the heart breaks as to what trauma has been perpetrated upon you or someone you love as to so polarize you to this view and I truly hope you do not really mean this. Where in your view do you then leave room for the Atonement coupled with repentance?
     
    In the ends to protect the children, where will you draw the line at what means are justified?
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    Martain got a reaction from Finrock in Not sure there is a way back   
    I know how you feel for I have felt the same way. Up against the wall of sin and addiction I did all within my power to repent and when I was still bound by sin and when no feeling of forgiveness came I felt very discouraged and reasoned as you reasoned that if all I can do is still not enough, then what is the point of trying.
     
    "I've repented but don't know if the Lord forgives me. If he doesn't forgive me then what's the point of resisting sin further? If the Lord doesn't forgive me then what is the point of repenting?"
     
    You wonder if the Lord has forgiven you for your sins when you repent of them. Certainly if you repent He will forgive you so the question becomes; How do you know that you've repented properly and sufficiently before the Lord?
     
    Imagine you take your car into the dealership to be fixed. The dealer looks over the car and gives you a list of everything wrong with it. You look it over and choose a couple of items most pressing to resolve and pass over the rest either because you lack the funds to repair or the time to wait while repairs are completed.
     
    My first encounter with serious repentance was like the example above. I had a few key things I wanted to repent of, be freed from, and be forgiven of. When that didn't happen the way I wanted I gave up and it was years before I reached the point of trying again.
     
    Eventually I reached the point to where I said,
     
    “Heavenly Father, I don’t want to sin anymore. I’ve confessed and forsaken them. I’m so sorry. Please, forgive me.”
     
    “Father, I’m finally willing to go all the way. I understand now that it’s all or nothing. Whatever I have to forsake, whatever I have to do, whatever I have to change, however much it may hurt, however long it make take, I don’t care. I’ll do it. Please! Save me!”
     
    It was then and only then that I felt the power of the atonement flood my life. It was then that the chains of addiction were broken and I received a new heart. It was only when I offered my whole soul as an offering that my offering was sufficient.
     
    The master mechanic knows the danger of a partial fix when what all of us need is a complete overhawl. Large or small in our eyes, all issues unaddressed will result in a fatality. Therefore he waits until we are truly willing to come to him.
     
    In the real world the price is money of which many of us lack. In repentance the price is our whole heart, our whole soul as an offering.
     
    I do not know what you were repenting of. I do not know how sincere your repentance was but I do know that when we repent the Lord forgives us.
     
    There is a way back for you just as there was for me. I've been where you've been and traveled (travelling) the road you seek to take to return. A few years back I prayerfully wrote out my conversion story in the hopes that it would one day be of use to others. I invite and ask you to read the full account in hopes that the Lord will use what I've written to help you understand what he would have you do to be forgiven.
     
    My prayer is with you,
     
    Sincerely,
    Martain
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    Martain reacted to Anddenex in Lucid Dreaming and the Spirit   
    The clarification you provide appears to be the way I understood what you were emphasizing with your initial post.
    These would be my concerns when deciding to "invite" the Lord to speak with you via a lucid dream:
    1) We have no evidence in scripture of "anyone" attempting to open, invite, communication with the Lord through dreams. Non scriptural evidence doesn't though specify that it is impossible, nor that it can't be done. Scriptural evidence only points to the Lord initiating dreams and visions...never his children.
    2) How will one know when God is actually instructing you and not the adversary? The Lord has given us instruction regarding ministering of angels and how we can tell from a just or an unjust spirit. What evidence, instruction, do we have if we initiate communication within a realm we know little about to protect us from false communication (lest we become like Sherem or Korihor)?
    3) What if you never wake up? No, I am just kidding on the this.
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    Martain got a reaction from Backroads in GMO Labeling   
    For personal reasons and via personal study I would very much like to see GMO labeling.
     
    For the same reasons I advocate 100% truth in advertising and truthful labeling of all ingredients in a product, I likewise advocate GMO labeling.
     
    I prefer being given the Agency to choose for myself, and alow others the same privaledge, whether I eat such foods or not.
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    Martain got a reaction from talisyn in GMO Labeling   
    For personal reasons and via personal study I would very much like to see GMO labeling.
     
    For the same reasons I advocate 100% truth in advertising and truthful labeling of all ingredients in a product, I likewise advocate GMO labeling.
     
    I prefer being given the Agency to choose for myself, and alow others the same privaledge, whether I eat such foods or not.
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    Martain reacted to estradling75 in Roleplaying Righteousness   
    I am not in the salt lake area but that sound like it could be fun.
     
    It wouldn't need to be limited to paladins... but it does seem you are asking for an all lawful good game and that could be interesting