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I was going to say just as antess said, You need to change the way the marriage is being played out, you are being lead headfirst down a bumpy path. I am sorry for this in advance....... BUT..... It sounds like you are being treated as a object to satisfied some deluded idea of a "perfect marriage". Marriage is a partnership,, just like running a business if there are two owners both have to be going in the same direction or you will end in the rocks. and sink.... But divorcing is not a good answer, You need to sit down and cool and calmly set some boundaries and talk about the problems you are both experiencing. This can be done with you bishop or a marriage councilor. Mate marriage is hard work but it is the most rewarding good luck

Guys your support has been wonderful, I have been sitting on this problem for a while and over the last couple of months it just got too much.. I would not go inactive, however i was thinking of being a gypsy and traveling to diffident wards... to avoid any confrontation and for the peace and quite. But after speaking whit my family I am going to stay in the ward, if he has anything more to say, I will take up the bishops proposal to act as ref in his office and we will have it out once and for all. So I am off the church in an 1 hour. Thanks for the support

Both replies have merit, The bishop was not much use, he said that he would speak to him. but the message did not get though... I feel... you are right we should love one another. My wife believes that he is just dumb... and i should treat him as such.. so I don't know, If I stay away from church and avoid him at least I wont smack him in the mouth.. which is probably a good thing..

This is kind of childish.... but I am going too throw it out there. There is a brother in my ward who is on the bishopric who has taken it upon himself to make my time at church to say the least "unpleasant".. The story goes like this... He was the bishop some time ago, at that time I needed to speak with him over a transgression.. He took it to stake they did not feel it was serious and given i had been open about it, did not impose any penalty on me ... Several years pass, I move back in to the ward, He is now on the high council so he is rarely in the ward. I get called as EQ Pres. About 12 months later the is a change of bishopric and he returns as a councilor to the bishop. Here starts the problems... He calls around to my house and while he is there he states that they have a better position for me? and indicates that EQ P is not really for me.. At this time I had taken the EQ from 7 attending to about 12. (small ward). A week or so latter he mentions again that the EQ should be somebody's else s calling. this happens a few more times.. till I finally write to the stake pres and request a release and stop working the calling. Then Christmas last year, my wife buys me a pair of $400 sunglasses. While talking to a brother I put them down and leave them in the class room. I return latter that evening to find them and they are gone.. The following Sunday I ask around and one brother says to me that "so and so" had asked him whos they were and he told him that they were mine, This was confirmed by another sister who asked if i got my sunglasses back from,,,, So I go and see him, at frist he said he did not have they, then he said he put them in the bishop office,, then he said they might be at home, then he tells me that thing get lost all the time.. After 6 week he gives them back to me with some excuse that he had only just found them... Any way a few other things happen between us mostly him making comments about me or my son.. So at this years Christmas party, I was standing outside with a few people talking, he comes out and says to the crowd that the food is ready. So I turn and start to move inside the building as I pass him he comments "don't rush the fat ones eats last or there will not be enough" I looked at him and he says "you heard". I just walked off, and sat in the foyer.. latter the bishops wife sees me. The following Sunday he rings me and asks. If we have a problem and what did I say to the bishops wife? I just told him to give it a rest and don't talk to me. He then walks up to me in the car park, gets right in my face and says. have we got a problem? I told him if we have no interaction there wont be a problem. For the next couple of weeks he singles me out to says something ... It got to the point were my 16 year old daughter said to me "Dose he want a flogging" she could see how worked up I had became? I spoke bishop about the situation. I stopped attending for about 3 weeks, I went back last week and again he walks past a make some smart comment about me being back.. So the question is. What would you do if you was me?

Hi, how are you? it is a very interesting, lots of advise....

Hey keep your chin up, just remember that it is his choice, there is not much you can do but show him love and caring. Which by the sound of your OP you do. You dont know what will happen in time. I was not raised in the church, I did all of the drinking, smoking ect. but something changed one day and I found the church. Now it might take time but your son will find his way back.. sooner or latter.

Well I have one thing to say about the BYU cougars.. I was in Salt Lake for the weekend they played Utah State, I purchased tickets from ebay ( may have paid way to much) I took my daughter along with me. We had a fantastic time, the people around us were great and it was a great game to watch. Hey BYU won... I bought several tee shirts and caps, and i would like to thank everybody that made the night so memorable.

hi mate

If you do join any service Army Navy or Airforce, the one rule applies.. Keep your head down.

Hi all I have just come across this forum, while researching another topic. Anyway I am a 47year old male convert married 3 tin lids.. Live in Australia on the eastern coast. I was converted to the church prior to my marriage.