searchingfortruth

(for the mods) and FYI...check my profile. My religion is set to CHRISTIAN now, for those of you that were really concerned. also I want to say this. I've stumbled upon a lot of information on this site. things like if you reveal certain things to me then my blood will be on your hands if I don't accept the church. so you might wanna think twice before banning me! can you tell the mod upset me a bit???

thanks so much for your response. a lot of that does make sense, big time! here's my question though. NT people like Peter, Paul, etc are different when referring to OT prophets. Peter and Paul taught truth. They preached Jesus and his teachings. If that is what the LDS means as to a prophet...weren't there more than one prophet in the NT? if there was more than one... (peter, paul, luke, john, etc.) why must there be just 1 today? just a curious thought :)

i've been sober for 6 years now. God is good!

ok so my line about debating was me trying to be respectful. I have family that is ridiculously ultra-sensitive when it comes to someone asking about their religion. They immediately think you're coming against them or you're anti-mormon. So that, my friend, was meant with respect. also...i just created my profile. I will change my religion promptly. did not realize that as an option. must have overlooked it. it seems that a lot of people in LDS are a bit sensitive. i would think that if someone was searching for truth in the only true church...you would be a bit more welcoming instead of throwing out a warning to them. ban me if you're "not impressed." i'll search for truth elsewhere if thats the case.

if yall are talking about me...i'm lost lol yes I am christian. No I am not LDS, yet. I'm a christian seeking truth.

no disrespect intended...but the more I read holy scripture....the more I see conflicts. I know that the belief is that bible is only accurate as to translated corretly by lds members. But I feel I have a very understanding knowledge to the bible, in both history and factual events. Just my 2-cents. Again, no disrespect intended. Just letting ya inside my mind

Awesome viewpoints, and thank you for you're response! As far as claiming to be a biblical prophet...I go back to deuteronomy. A prophet can be judged by his/her prophecies. If any prophecies are not fulfilled, then they are proven to be a false prophet. now don't get my wrong, I'm not bashing or claiming joseph was false. just letting you get inside my mind here for a minute. now with that, you have several different type of prophecies. Some that speak specific dates, some open-ended, etc. There are hundreds of biblical prophecies that have been fulfilled, and are continued to be fulfilled as the age we live in. my concern, a few of Josephs prophecies that were specific, that when the time came, were not fulfilled. I do believe in the GIFT of prophecy, as it talks about in the NT. But I believe that is a gift for more than just one person, as I have seen. Just being honest with you, in the most respectful way, Im having trouble believing that one man hears God for the whole church. I believe that if I need direction, I can go directly to God and ask, and he'll answer (or speak). For Guidance and direction I use the bible...I've never had a situation where I couldn't turn to God's word and find the resolution. I'll shut up now lol thats just a lil bit of my thoughts when thinking of joining the church. Again, I mean this with ALL respect. I'm not a basher, if this church is true...(i think i said this before)I want to know and want in!

let me rephrase that a bit... i feel as though I have God, accepted Jesus, and been filled. I feel the power of God working in my life. He set me free from suicide, drug addictions, etc. So with that background....I'm trying to see if I'm missing something. I feel very complete in christ, its amazing. So honest opinion I really don't feel as though I lack in anything religion wise. BUT like i said, my family witnesses to me. And I truly want to find out. If the church is truely the only true church....I WANT IN! Who wouldn't lol hope that makes better sense!

here's my viewpoint. (fyi thanks for you input...very good point). I'm know jesus christ as my lord and savior. and know god, and am filled with the holy spirit. BUT I believe in the fullness of the bible. So kinda my viewpoint in researching as to be the true church (my family states its the only), is to obviously pray for guidance. but through guidance, there should be facts, IMO. so I'm just aligning everything and seeking the truth on it. Just as in Acts 17 (i believe thats correct refence) where Paul bore testimony to the Bereans. The bereans didn't just take his word, they studied to show what paul was preaching was true. also, because there seems to be a belief in errors on the bible....i'm researching history and facts on that too. to test the accuracy. I pray for all things. Thats an understood rule. I have read a good bit of book of mormon. Prayed god would reveal testimony...and nothing. I've actually been searching for truth for awhile now when it comes to LDS. Pleas dont take this to offense...I truly am seeking truth. Just wanting to make sure I'm not missing something ya know?

Meant as thats what he did, his role. "His role was"..."he played as" same thing to me. Sorry for confusion

also, the quote from Joseph Fielding Smith, I'm under the impression he played as a president for the church. If I am incorrect on this...please forgive me.

Ok, so my family has really been ministering to me about LDS. So I'm digging, looking for answers, truth, if there is some. Let me lay out a general thinking idea that I wan't viewpoints on. Joseph Fielding Smith in Doctrines of Salvation, Vol. 1, page 188. He said, "Mormonism, as it is called, must stand or fall on the story of Joseph Smith. He was either a prophet of God, divinely called, properly appointed and commissioned, or he was one of the biggest frauds this world has ever seen. There is no middle ground." "If Joseph Smith was a deceiver, who willfully attempted to mislead the people, then he should be refuted, and his doctrines shown to be false, for the doctrines of an impostor cannot be made to harmonize in all particulars with divine truth. If his claims and declarations were built upon fraud and deceit, there would appear many errors and contradictions, which would be easy to detect. The doctrines of false teachers will not stand the test when tried buy the accepted standards of measurement, the scriptures." So with that reference in place...so it seems to be that as long as you prove Joseph Smith to be legit then keep exploring into the depths of the foundings and doctrines. My concern is this...that there seem to be a lot of things concerning Joseph Smith that doesn't exactly reflect his status as a prophet. NOT BASHING or DEBATING!!! I for real and searching out truth. So there ya go, BOMBS away lol

yup there's actually a temple maybe 20 minutes from my house! and what's wrong with dothan?? lol

Hey everyone! I come in peace! lol Half my family is mormon. other half has a background in freemasonry. I believe in God, Jesus, the holy spirit, and the bible. My lds family has been "witnessing" to me about LDS church. I stumbled upon here...and figured I sign up and see if I learn anything! Feel free to say anything to me! I'm open-minded, and will listen to anyone's side of the story!