Jerubbaal

**It is interesting to find that the Prophet J.S. mentions "thick darkness" gathering round him, just before experiencing the first vision...**

...an interesting proposition!! Jehovah was Melchizedek. He and his whole city were translated. Then almost 2000 years later, Jehovah gave up His translated body, and went into His mother Mary's womb, sometime before His birth in Bethlehem. His mother gave birth to Him, then 33 years later Jehovah/Jesus gave up the Ghost, or left His second mortal body/ later to be resurrected??? Sounds like transmigration of the soul...?? What I believe, is that Melchizedek was a type. In fact he was the greatest type of Christ there ever was. He was a king over his people. He reigned under his father(a dual kingship), he gave everything he had in order to bring salvation to his people. He was called The Prince of Peace because he brought all his people into the presence of God(translated) This kind of "PEACE" is the equivalent of "Entering into the Rest of The LORD." ...and like someone said, Mechizedec' city may just come down in the Jerusalem area. There is the fact that there will be TWO Zions from which Jesus will rule the earth through His 1000 year reign. One in Jersusalem, the other in North America. Just my opinion of course!!!

In Genesis 25: 8, 17 The writer speaks of both Abraham, then Ishmael giving up the Ghost Whatever that word translates back to in Hebrew?? lol Then there is the one in the OT, where it says "...the spirit goes back to God, who gave it life"

Dahlia Is there a time after convert baptism that would seem right for such a blessing? I'm wondering if it would help me be a better Mormon, or if I should try to be better, then ask for a blessing? On the other hand, after learning a few things about 'life before my mission' from my guys, I don't think you need to be the best Mormon to get one! My humble advice is to wait until you have an idea of what blessings(temporal and spiritual), you feel you want to achieve... When I recieved mine, I was unprepared for him asking me what kind things I want to accomplish in life. I stumbled over "mission, rising in the first resurection" etc. ...and my blessing didnt go on to say much more than that. If I had been prepared with a mental list, I am sure the Lord would have pronounced more promises upon me at that time. I would like to add, that anytime you recieve a blessing/setting apart in your life, and the Spirit bears witness to a specific promise in the blessing- you can tack that onto your Patriarchal Blessing...

I can imagine your curiosity about the promises that might have been made to your mother about her children- seeing she was a few months pregnant with you when she recieved her Patriarchal Blessing My advice is- find the Patriarch for your area, and call to make an appointment. He may or may not want to chat- but if he does, it might help bring some light... Edit: Hmmm it would be a better idea if you got your mother to make the appointment, then both of you could talk to the Patriarch. He prolly wouldn't see someone, and chat about a third persons blessing. That is doubtful!!

I agree with john doe!! When The Holy Ghost speaks it is always in the positive. Can we imagine The Spirit of the Lord telling Nephi in his first vision- "ummm Nephi, if you just take a gander over there to the left, you will see a virgin most fair...??" No- he speaks a different language...He simply said "LOOK!!" That's why we are counciled to speak in the positive as well. The Holy Ghost speaks that way. If we don't know something for ourselves, and yet speak in the positive, it gives the Holy Ghost a chance to speak through us- giving(us), the speaker, a testimony of what we are speaking of. Or, on another occasion we speak using our testimony, and the message is passed to someone listening, by the Power of The Holy Ghost(if they are a non-member) It seems to me, or- "I believe", that The Holy Ghost wont bear witness to wishywashy words hahaha I have been wrong often enough though...")

"Enduring to the End" is encapsulated in D&C 50:24 "That which is of God is light; and he that receiveth light, and continueth in God, receiveth more light; and that light groweth brighter and brighter until the perfect day." "The Perfect Day" is that day when(through your faith), you wrend the Veil and kneel before the LORD, bathing His feet in your tears. This is what "Enduring to the End" means, ultimately- for this life...