mirkwood

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    mirkwood got a reaction from Plein Air in Interesting COVID-19 numbers from Southern Utah   
    In years to come, looking back, this is what we will probably say was the correct choice.
     
     
    This is socialism in action (well, not the paying of debt part.)
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    mirkwood got a reaction from NeuroTypical in Mormons Building Bridges founders tacitly acknowledge: “We’ve been taken over by anti-Mormons”.   
    I looked at the MMB page on occasion.  It seemed mostly to be people who wanted to jump up and down in histrionics over the church.
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    mirkwood got a reaction from NeuroTypical in Mormons Building Bridges founders tacitly acknowledge: “We’ve been taken over by anti-Mormons”.   
    I looked at the MMB page on occasion.  It seemed mostly to be people who wanted to jump up and down in histrionics over the church.
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    mirkwood reacted to Godless in The Excuse of all Tyrants   
    It's starting.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-wisconsin/wisconsin-supreme-court-invalidates-states-covid-19-stay-at-home-order-idUSKBN22Q04H
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    mirkwood got a reaction from JohnsonJones in Update From My Son's Mission   
    The sister from our neighborhood that came home from the Phillipines just got reassigned to the Hawaii Temple Square Mission.
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    mirkwood reacted to prisonchaplain in Leaving faith communities over 'politics' - a Protestant example   
    This topic can be sensitive, and I was tempted to place in the Christian beliefs forum. However, my sense is that the spiritual struggle that politics sometimes generates affects us all. Here's the story--made vague on purpose. A man seminary-educated (Protestant graduate theology school) in the 1970s becomes ordained in his mainline denomination and pastors a single church for nearly 30 years. As he sees his denomination embrace gay marriage, ordain practicing homosexuals, and now fully embrace transgenderism, he comes to the soul-wrenching decision to leave his denomination--including guiding his church out. He was able to join another denomination, under the same larger umbrella, and today says his former denomination cannot be merely labed liberal--it has become radical, in his view. I read his article and, taken at face value, I agree.
    In the 1990s, when I was at my much-more-Bible-based denominational seminary I remember classmates saying with a bit of bravado that they were thankful that we would never affirm anti-biblical sexuality. Today we remain nowhere near violating those standards. However, there are some frightfully strong rumblings among our youngest clergy. A few pastors have left us, because they do want to embrace today's cultural norms.
    In the greater Evangelical world there are several thinkers suggesting a huge divide is coming over support/opposition to POTUS. Apparently many younger believers find it hypocritical and even evil that their elders would turn a blind eye to the shortcomings in order to gain temporary protection and support. "Do we trust God or Caesar?" they ask.
    If the church is led by prophets, and those prophets remain true, then a few may leave the church, whether to the left or the right. If boundary-protectors force the church to the right, outside of God's directing, then a good number will leave for the left. Those who do so will be younger. On the other hand, if the cultural-accommodaters get ahead of God's directions, many elders may leave in dismay. After some initial growth by excited young people, such a movement would go the way of many in-tune denominations--gradual implosion.
    I'm an outsider. However, if my counsel is worth anything, I'd urge members to pray for their leaders--especially those they believe to be anointed by God to be prophets. In the mean time, I am praying for my leaders to keep our denomination faithful to God and his Word.
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    mirkwood got a reaction from JohnsonJones in Update From My Son's Mission   
    The sister from our neighborhood that came home from the Phillipines just got reassigned to the Hawaii Temple Square Mission.
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    mirkwood reacted to pam in Pornography temptations. Should I talk to my bishop   
    Because of your age I feel like the person you need to talk to is your parents and your bishop.  Providing advice to a teenager on such a sensitive subject from random people on the internet probably isn't the most appropriate of things.
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    mirkwood reacted to Carborendum in Flemish Giant Rabbits?   
    That's what I was going for.  We are counting down to Halloween after all.  And I didn't want to let @mirkwood have all the fun.
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    mirkwood reacted to Just_A_Guy in Mormons Building Bridges founders tacitly acknowledge: “We’ve been taken over by anti-Mormons”.   
    I don’t doubt that there’s an amalgamation of people in MBB who have varying experiences, motivations, and agendas.  But I spent some time today trolling through the last three weeks of their  Facebook discussions, and I am satisfied that my summation as given in my opening post here is substantially accurate.
    It’s also worth noting that of the 8K Facebook followers MBB have, fewer than 300 of them seem to have followed the founders to their Facebook site, Emmaus, which has apparently been online for nearly two weeks. The vast bulk of the MBB constituency seem no longer interested in even masquerading as a “loyal opposition.” 
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    mirkwood reacted to Just_A_Guy in Mormons Building Bridges founders tacitly acknowledge: “We’ve been taken over by anti-Mormons”.   
    They don’t say it openly, of course.
    Apparently the founders, as a nod to President Nelson, suggested changing the group’s name to “Saints Building Bridges”, which caused a critical mass of members to drop the mask of loyalty and swamp the founders with a bunch of Facebook messages along the lines of “what are we listening to that ol’ poo-poo-head for?”
    Takeaways:
    1)  President Nelson is seeming wilier and wilier every day.
    2)  They went full anti-Mormon.  Never go full anti-Mormon.  
    3)  Anyone want to place bets on how long it will take before this “Emmaus” group goes the same way as MBB?
    4)  It would take a heart of stone not to laugh at all of this.
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    mirkwood got a reaction from NeedleinA in Opinions on John Pontius?   
    VOG is bad LDS science fiction...barely.
    That is the only thing, other then some blog posts, by Pontius I've read.  He didn't hold my attention.
    As far as I know Pontius did not have any affiliation with the group Vallow and Daybell are connected with.  He also died a few years ago.
     
     
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    mirkwood got a reaction from Still_Small_Voice in NY Issues Tax Bill to Samaritan's Purse   
    I remember years ago when Rush Limbaugh left New York and moved his business to Florida.  He talked on air about New York's efforts to continue to tax him even after he was gone.
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    mirkwood got a reaction from NeedleinA in Opinions on John Pontius?   
    VOG is bad LDS science fiction...barely.
    That is the only thing, other then some blog posts, by Pontius I've read.  He didn't hold my attention.
    As far as I know Pontius did not have any affiliation with the group Vallow and Daybell are connected with.  He also died a few years ago.
     
     
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    mirkwood got a reaction from NeedleinA in Opinions on John Pontius?   
    VOG is bad LDS science fiction...barely.
    That is the only thing, other then some blog posts, by Pontius I've read.  He didn't hold my attention.
    As far as I know Pontius did not have any affiliation with the group Vallow and Daybell are connected with.  He also died a few years ago.
     
     
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    mirkwood got a reaction from Still_Small_Voice in NY Issues Tax Bill to Samaritan's Purse   
    I remember years ago when Rush Limbaugh left New York and moved his business to Florida.  He talked on air about New York's efforts to continue to tax him even after he was gone.
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    mirkwood got a reaction from Still_Small_Voice in NY Issues Tax Bill to Samaritan's Purse   
    I remember years ago when Rush Limbaugh left New York and moved his business to Florida.  He talked on air about New York's efforts to continue to tax him even after he was gone.
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    mirkwood got a reaction from NeedleinA in Opinions on John Pontius?   
    VOG is bad LDS science fiction...barely.
    That is the only thing, other then some blog posts, by Pontius I've read.  He didn't hold my attention.
    As far as I know Pontius did not have any affiliation with the group Vallow and Daybell are connected with.  He also died a few years ago.
     
     
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    mirkwood got a reaction from NeedleinA in Opinions on John Pontius?   
    VOG is bad LDS science fiction...barely.
    That is the only thing, other then some blog posts, by Pontius I've read.  He didn't hold my attention.
    As far as I know Pontius did not have any affiliation with the group Vallow and Daybell are connected with.  He also died a few years ago.
     
     
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    mirkwood reacted to NeedleinA in Opinions on John Pontius?   
    Elder Gary E. Stevenson:
    I personally would classify your feelings as a warning from the Spirit to stay away from that spiritual slippery slope.

    There is a subset of members of the Church who simply can't leave the mysteries of God alone. They crave answers, explanations and personal revelations beyond what the prophets provide. Many have a longing to go back in time to the early days of the restoration when visions, angels and gifts exploded on the scene and were, at least in their minds, more prevalent.
    All it takes is someone or a book to offer NDEs with visions of the future and that subset of members instantly gravitates in that direction.

    The description of Zion in Visions of Glory (VOG) is Pontius sharing the 'vision' of an anonymous source called Spencer. FairMormon did a great write up on it: click here
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    mirkwood reacted to laronius in Will i have dificulties trying to find a girl at BYU if i didn't serve a mission ?   
    My recommendation would be don't force the issue. Put yourself out there? Yes. But focus more on being the kind of person a righteous young woman would want to be with and put your efforts into developing friendships. If a girl gets to know the real you and not just your "resume" she is more likely to look past your not having served a mission when you ask her out. 
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    mirkwood reacted to NeuroTypical in Will i have dificulties trying to find a girl at BYU if i didn't serve a mission ?   
    From what they tell me, you will have no problem finding girls to be offended at, because they prioritize landing a returned missionary.  But from what they also tell me, there are some girls who may give you a chance.
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    mirkwood reacted to Just_A_Guy in A question about the NFL and Sabbath Keeping   
    . . . for now . . .  
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    mirkwood got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in A question about the NFL and Sabbath Keeping   
    d) I don't recall Dale Murphy saying anything against the church in public.