Delanie

To end the story, a new guy in the stake presidency saw the latest bill, freaked out, and now all debts are paid. No one in power in the stake seems to like the idea of continuing Scouting, but they do seem to be getting the idea it's not their decision.

Well, called a computer expert in the neighborhood over... I think any virus or malware or anything like that is taken care of !

I suppose you're right. I really try to stay on top of everything, but I have been in the position of the frustrated volunteer before. The thing is, Backroads says these people don't understand there is a different unit the boys are moving to. They simply don't understand why they have to fill out forms when the boy is remaining in what to them is the same Scouting program. Someone will have to do it.

If her co-worker is able to fill out applications without getting in trouble, clearly the ethics are in a gray area. Non-LDS scout volunteers are there because they want to be. LDS scouters are there because they were called to it. It was not their choice. I know we should have a better attitude about it, but it can be a very time-consuming calling we did not plan on having. Backroads may have some very good explanations, but if the volunteers choose not to listen the result is an angry and frustrated person on the phone or in the office. They may not understand or want to understand why they have to do the paperwork, and they obviously have no intention of listening. The kindest and simplest thing to do is to do what needs to get done and let the volunteer worry about the situation on his own time.

Is the only reason you won't fill out the applications is because you all think it's unethical? I'm sure people would be happy to sign as leaders for them. That should solve problems. If it solves the problem of moving the boys and makes people happy, why not do it? Being a Scout leader is a huge job. It's hard to collect applications from everybody and it's frustrating to arrive at the office to find out you missed stuff or have more to do. I hate to say it, but I have arrived at the office in a bad temper (which I know I shouldn't do) and not being able to be cut a break doesn't help. These people are probably overworked in their callings and the rest of their lives and honestly don't have time to fill out paperwork for the same boy every two years--times that for twenty boys. It's constant work. And I understand the tendency to put all the Scouting programs together (my ward downsized to just a pack and a troop) but that's how it works in LDS scouting and you probably won't get people to change the way they think. I know this probably sounds harsh, but it might be best for everyone if you just put on a smile and did the work for them every now and then. Tell them the paperwork is necessary, fill in all the information (I know you have access) and see if you can't get the leader to sign for them.

I shouldn't laugh at that because I'm sure there's truth.

I don't think I would pursue the friendship without my husband's blessing. I know it's just friendship and girl stuff, but it can tread on old wounds.

Possibly, anne! I'm suddenly imagining him finding this before I can mention it and he wondering what I was doing!

All time dates within seconds.

The dates are for times when he was gone. Also, the addresses were the long & complex ones. Not simple www dot hot baddness dot com. Feeling better.

This is what I think I will do. I'm still just confused at the whole thing. My first reaction after horror was a computer/internet/virus issue... and then led to all those stories you hear about fine upstanding citizens' secret lives. My husband is kind of wild, but I've never thought of him as the porn type. My gut instinct is that it's merely a computer thing. But another voice in my head says that's denial. The time hits are all right together.

The computer crashed and was back up and running before he left, and I haven't done anything on the internet since then. DH reinstalled everything that wasn't part of the factory settings of whatever you would call it. Which is what has me worried. The only other person in our house is a toddler. DH and I use the same account. My husband handled most of the computer work, so I don't know what has been installed program-wise. I'm not sure what's updated. The sites are actually in the history--but they seem out of place with all other past websites. The dates placed them all together. This hasn't happend with a search engine. It's the predictive text action on the address bar. So we're just using the browser, no specifc search site. We have Internet Explorer and Firefox. I only saw this on Firefox. That's the browser we usually use. The websites have not shown up in the shortcuts.

Last week our computer crashed. We have reinstalled everything, including the internet browsers that didn’t come with the computer, etc. Not everything is quite in place yet. Now, the past two days when using the internet and typing in an address, it has listed a bunch of pornography sites in the dropdown menu. I’m of course shocked and horrified. DH has been out of town for the week. When I pull up the history, these sites are listed all together at the bottom of the history page, before our home page and all the usual sites. I don’t know what to make of it. Part of me is thinking my husband has been viewing these sites… and part of me is wondering if the aftermath of the computer crash had let something sneak through. Which I admit seems naïve to think. I don’t want to call my husband about this, I would rather discuss it when he gets home.

A few months' back I was called into a stake position over scouting, and I've largely enjoyed it. However, we are in a bind. My stake is very weird when it comes to money... and has not yet paid our local Scout council for last year's charters. Last time I checked, we owe them over 10,000$ for the charters, registrations, and all that we've done. The excuse was that there were a lot of stake changes around the time the money was due and it took a long time for the right person to get the bill. From what I've been able to gather, everyone is being very stubborn about this, has no intention of paying it off, and no longer even want the stake to be involved with Scouting. Me and the rest of the stake committee really don't know what to do with this. We have a lot of boys in the middle of awards, a lot of boys trying to finish their Eagles and Rangers, etc. I know we won't be able to record awards if no one is registered next year as I don't think the council will let us recharter being this much in debt. So should we just hand record awards until the stake gets with the program? If we have boys bent on continuing in Scouting, how can I help find them different troops to join?

Vort, don't you understand that if Wal-Mart simply fired half of its employees, the rest of them could possibly make a much more impressive amount? There. Wage increase problem solved. Though I don't know what that will mean for the now-jobless bunch or how Wal-Mart will be able to staff itself enough to support the wages of the remaining employees...