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Yes, lets not worry about goverment extension. Lets not worry about it ever increasingly becomeing involved in our own personal lives. Its the USA goverment of course. Nothing can go wrong. The men who swear an oath to uphold the constitution in those offices are only men. Its always been the ordinary citizen, the people who have the greatest influence on how they vote and act. And goverment reach is now in your life. You are an open book. If you ever become big on the political scene, a protest or involved in something. They can read into all that data on you. Perhaps even blackmail you of past comments and other things. To think this cant happen shows shockingly incredible trust in the instutuions of goverment today. Lets just keep our heads in the dirt for 10 more years. Surely the dangers to our security will be over and these big brother laws revoked.

It probably wont matter to you until your life is harmed directly is someway. Thats the sad part.

This is a sign the goverment will become more transparent? You think if their where no whistle blowers the goverment would release such information such as this data collection center they are building? I am sure any person who was thinking of commiting a terrorist act already knew their email were being watched and phone calls. The Russian inteligence warned our own officals in the US about the tsarnev brothers as a security threat. And still with that information failed to act upon it and stop the planned attack. Even after they said they had phone calls of the oldest brother and still failed to do anything. The goverment wasent trying to keep this secret from the terrorists. I am sure that any terrorist who is capable of getting a bomb to detonate properly already knew what was going on. The goverment wanted to hide this from the people. Even if the people already knew it was occuring. They wanted to hide the fact that they are now watching any and evey person. Whether they are suspected or not suspected of any crime or future crime. And our leaders say we must make a choice between security and basic liberties. Well I have more of a chance dieing in my car than I do from a terrorist act. This is only the start. If this data center goes unopposed in the next 10 years or so the NSA will ask for more powers for our security.

I think this is an interesting article and I definitely agree with this quote. Quote: You want to know why most Mormons are worried about the government redefining marriage? It isn’t because they hate gay people. It is because the last time the government redefined the definition of marriage, Mormons got screwed over, imprisoned, invaded, and had their property confiscated for not following along with the federal government’s definition of marriage. The feds said you have to perform marriages like we tell you to, or you’re not a real religion, and we will throw you in prison. And for the people who say this could never happen, that’s super comforting, since it has before. So if you want to know why the Mormons in California voted against gay marriage, they weren’t scared of gay people. They were scared of the feds. Not sure if I quoted you correctly anddnex but thank you for that quote. I have thought about that. If the change in definitions and law would then climax to an attack on the church and what we believe, aswell as other organizations. This scenario has happened alot and not just for our church.

What is wrong with being a member and supporting gay marriage? As a member and a believer and follower of christ, I firmly beleive that marriage is between a man and a woman. I also belive in loving everyone and free agency. Even when that agency is used inccorectly, it is a part of learning in this life. Maybe I am naive, but if two people love eachother, why can they not form a family with eachother and have kids. Are there not disfunctional heterosexual couples? Can a loving homosexual couple raise a family fine? I believe they can. I also know from a young age some childeren develope same sex attraction. It is not because how they were raised or any imbalance in body development. Its as natural for a person with same sex attraction to love the same sex as it is for a heterosexual to love the opposite sex. So we condition homosexuals to be attracted to the opposite sex or simply deny it as natural? Its something I think we do not have alot of understanding of. Call it a liberal agenda or whatever that has lead to this point in our time of legalizing gay marriage. I do not see gay marriage as a sign of doom is near because of this or that the faithful have turned against christ. I see it as a step forward from backwords thinking. Maybe its the hate that is developed from people on both sides of the aisle that endangers society? Both are not all guilty, but there are individuals on both sides who are ignorant and will not love the other because of lifestyle and beliefe. I was delighted to hear what the church had to say in there message. I fully agree. A same sex couple now leagalized under the status of marriage raising a family under state law. I can live with that, I understand. A same sex couple marrying in the temple or being sealed is something entirely different for me. It is not what we believe or live by. To marry in the temple you have to be clean and ready. Its a task that is truely hard but promising. Again maybe I a am naive and young. This is my opinion and where I stand. I respect all the opinions in here to. People should stand for what they believe and thats always acceptable as long as both sides can be agreeable.

Your husband being involved in an activity that can land him in jail is crazy. He needs to be reminded he has a family he has commited too. I do know what he is doing is not exactly grafitti, but it is still considered by law ilegal if not permitted. Such as painting a mural under certain circumstances is legal. Murals can also be painted with spray cans(like gang grafiti) but into art. You do not have to be in a gang to do street grafiti(or art). Some people do it for many reasons. Grafiti can be for a gang or someones street art. Its just dangerous to be doing what your husband is doing. He needs to get his artistic side out under legal grounds.

"By Way Of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War." - a motto of Mossad. Not sure why they picked it. Israel got to obtain nuclear weapons. Well, only after the death of JFK; he was opposed to them going nuclear. I agree, it would only make matters worse. Splitting the region into jew and palaestinian by the UN order was also a mistake. Rather they should have remained and assimilated into the region. This only escalated hate in the creation of two factions holding claims to the same land. They did not need to go nuclear to defend themselves either from their hatefull neighbors. As even supported by: Israeli General Matityahu Peled, is quoted in Ha'aretz (19 March 1972) with the following statement, "The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war." So I say why can not Iran have nuclear energy? If they do obtain nukes, why would we invade? What if they do not use it, but a means of deterance? I am not supporting the Iran regiem. I just want to avoid a conflict. Are sanctions worth it? United Nations Ambassador, Madeleine Albright, when appearing on 60 Minutes, was asked the following by correspondent Lesley Stahl, in reference to the years of United States led economic sanctions against Iraq, "We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that is more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?" To which Ambassador Albright replied, "I think that is a very hard choice, but the price, we think, the price is worth it." Is it worth it today against Iran?

I think its okay to call this guy evil or heartless. He killed five year olds... Many of the worlds mass murderes in histroy had mental problems. Does that make what they did reasonable because of the unstable state of their mind? They premeditated and executed their ideas. This man at this elementary school sounds like he premediated this tagic event too. Its never acceptable to hurt others or take anothers life under any circumsatances in cold blood. I can't say I feel sorry for the killer. Twenty plus dead, more than half 5-10 year olds.

"If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide." (Abraham Lincoln, Lyceum Address, January 27, 1838) Some of the people who are for such measures of seceding have agreed with mass expulsion of our illegal immigrants in this country. I do not think that is right. I also do not think Moses would cry ''let my people go'' and then after get rid of millions in his own ranks, much of whom may be living a lawfull life. The Church supports an approach where undocumented immigrants are allowed to square themselves with the law and continue to work without this necessarily leading to citizenship. In furtherance of needed immigration reform in the United States, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints supports a balanced and civil approach to a challenging problem, fully consistent with its tradition of compassion, its reverence for family, and its commitment to law.Immigration: Church Issues New Statement

Even as a symbolic gesture of petitioning to secede is reckless. There were people before us who fought and died to make these United States, this Union. Sure our goverment has done some things we disagree with, perhaps even oversteped there jurisdiction a little. But secedeing is not a solution. Its running away from the problem like a coward. What this country needs is to counter our problems together. Put aside politics for the common good of the people. If you believe there is evil at the highest of levels, let it trip over itself. Then revealing itself. And this movement(the tea party or anyhting close) has also picked up alot of racists. Ive seen it all over public social sites. Its a movement I do not want to affilliate with. I am also unsure of our goverment, and the far left movement. Both have become really extreme. I do think we can do much more together than split. This just shows you how divided we are, and unwilling to even work together. My position is not lukewarm either. So dont disregard me becuase I seem to not have chosen a side. It takes time to make sense out of things. None of us can predict the future and what side is right. Those who wrap themselves in the flag and claim to have god on their side can be very dangerous. I am all for freedom, justice, and the pursuit of happiness. The problem I have with these movements is freedom for whom? All of us? Surely by the rhetoric being said by both sides, somone is bound to suffer.

Well bobby boy was basically listing tragic events and a certain individual in history that had negative consequences. He was not saying President Obama is the next hitler, but he was saying Obama may be a negative player for our time. We have yet to see these next four years. He did not rush into saying Obama is the Anti-christ, but you can see that hes worried about the things he may do. I personally believe Romney and Obama were not what this nation needed. They both fail on the way I see foreign policy should be done. One is big goverment, the other is big corporations and states rights. This is the United States. Not the confederation of states(a group of states that are allied together to form a political unit in which they keep most of their independence but act together for purposes such as defense). If it was this way, America would be much different. Big brother is no solution either and is something people should oppose. Now you can see why the founding fathers had so much divison in which direction the country should go and how it should be run. This is where we are at right now. You have support for bigger goverment in varities of areas. Aswell as huge support for very small goverment that can and would effect many people. I think a nation should care to its people and veterans. Right now were willing to send troops to war and not have the proper funds or programs in place to support them or give them a job. The people come first, then foreign aid, and if war is absolutley neccsary, go ahead. I have gone off topic now, but I agree with both cathy and bob. A comparison to hitler is radical, and some events in our time may bring about tragic consequences. Only time will tell.

United States Foreign Policy An excerpt from a discourse by President Ezra Taft Benson. There is one and only one legitimate goal of United States foreign policy. It is a narrow goal, a nationalistic goal: the preservation of our national independence. Nothing in the Constitution grants that the President shall have the privilege of offering himself as a world leader. He’s our executive; he’s on our payroll, in necessary; he’s supposed to put our best interests in front of those of other nations. Nothing in the Constitution nor in logic grants to the President of the United States or to Congress the power to influence the political life of other countries, to “uplift” their cultures, to bolster their economies, to feed their peoples or even to defend them against their enemies. This point was made clear by the wise father of our country, George Washington: I have always given it as my decided opinion that no nation has a right to intermeddle in the internal concerns of another; that every one had a right to form and adopt whatever government they liked best to live under them selves; and that if this country could, consistent with its engagements, maintain a strict neutrality and thereby preserve peace, it was bound to do so by motives of policy, interest, and every other consideration. —George Washington (1732-1799) Letter to James Monroe (25 Aug. 1796) The preservation of America’s political, economic and military independence–the three cornerstones of sovereignty–is the sum and total prerogative of our government in dealing with the affairs of the world. Beyond that point, any humanitarian or charitable activities are the responsibility of individual citizens voluntarily without coercion of others to participate. The proper function of government must be limited to a defensive role–the defense of individual citizens against bodily harm, theft and involuntary servitude at the hands of either domestic or foreign criminals. But to protect our people from bodily harm at the hands of foreign aggressors, we must maintain a military force which is not only capable of crushing an invasion, but of striking a sufficiently powerful counterblow as to make in unattractive for would-be conquerors to try their luck with us. We are a Warlike People | Renounce War and Proclaim Peace

Thank you for letting me know of my grammatical errors. If you can get back to me on the links and your opinion and insight on it, that would be much appreciated. I am sorry a am no english grammer expert. I am also sorry if my opinions and fealings about gospel doctrine have offended some. I am going to stick to the teachings of christ, rather than my own intuition or an officals when it comes to playing with the idea of a war.

Well thank's for deleting the talk's the prophets have said, at least the people wont have to read a talk not 'properly' sourced. The Times in Which We Live - general-conference We are a Warlike People | Renounce War and Proclaim Peace - the site also discusses other important topic's on the side bar, that embrace's Christ's teaching's. Here they are in there proper link's. Please read them, and with a humble mind and meek in heart. I have also read your site rule's and would like to mention that I was wrong in my display of the talk's. Now they have sources. And I believe I was related to a unintelligent beauty pagent who only can spout that she want's world peace, and that I am arrogant of the history in the middle east. I did not spout name calling or inteligence remarks back, but I find that is of note now that I have read the site rule's. I suppose some of the past prophets were beauty pagent contestants too since they warned about the dangers of war. I do not think moroni would have sanctioned the lamanite people for there leaders for working towards obtaining a nuclear weapon. He would talk with them and act in Gods commandments. And by this the lord will protect you. And when the lamanites did strike by there own ignorance, who was saved? The nephites. The book of Mormon initself is a warning for our day's. It mirror's our times in every aspect. Replace the things of that time with twenty first century tech and there you have it. Terms & Conditions » LDS Social Network

You can find these talk's on lds.org, theres your reference's. The talk's I posted were not fictitious stories.

I informed that the below talk's and excerpt are not mine. If you see fit to remove these message's then fine. I for one would think the men who wrote these talk's would want it spread around, I do not think the church would enforce copy right violation for my use of it, or not properly displaying it.

Iran’s population is around 75 million. For purposes of comparison, that’s higher than the population of Iraq and Afghanistan combined; higher than the population of all of Vietnam when we were involved in that war, or Korea, or even Germany pre-anchluss. If you expect to pacify a population that size, you’re talking about a massive undertaking, comparable to any counter-insurgency in American military history. And those who think that bombing Iran into submission from the air will be as ‘easy’ as it was in Libya, or Iraq, or Serbia, the situation is again much different. Iran is not a pariah, not by a long shot. Most countries have been backing up the US and EU on the topic of nuclear weapons, but Iran has staunch supporters on nearly every continent the two of which I have already named, and you’ll see them getting a great deal more international support than Saddam ever got, should we enter a war with them. Unless we’re prepared for the erasure of any progress we’ve made in Iraq, Afghanistan, the Gulf, Lebanon, and elsewhere, we shouldent be entertaining the idea of military action against Iran. Attacking Iran is a terrible idea, and we have to discourage Israel from doing it. But given Iran’s explicit promise of retaliation against US military bases, the US may be forced to pre-empt Iran’s offensive capabilities if an Israeli attack is imminent. (Iran must have thought about this when they promised to attack US bases, which is another indication for me that elements in Iran feel they will gain, not lose, power in the country if they are subjected to a US-Israeli strike). Numerous security and terrorism experts have said that one of the consequences of attacking Iran is that it will increase the rate of terrorist attacks against the United States. With that said, why does America insist on attacking Iran and defending Israel at any cost? Do American leaders want the terrorism threat to grow and spread, contrary to what they say in public? The short answer is yes. Terrorism keeps security goons, fearmongering politicians, war contractors, national security bureaucrats, and financial institutions in business. American politicians, military leaders, and national security officials justify their powers, salaries, and privileges by claiming their highest priority is the security of the American people, but this is plainly false. They're doing everything they can to create an unstable world in which the threat of terrorism to America and global security is greater than it is now. The U.S. National Security Dictatorship sees it as a good thing that the terrorism threat will evolve and get larger after a U.S.-Israeli attack on Iran. They want to keep creating enemies, killing people, and making terrorists out of disenfranchised and resentful youth. The profiteers of the war system want to preserve the war system and fight the illegal war on terror until their population, military, political, and economic objectives have been achieved. In the last eleven years, American and Western leaders have constructed a global "counter-terrorism" state to handle what they know for certain is coming: global economic collapse, world war, and a dramatic rise in global terrorism. A U.S.-Israeli attack on Iran would trigger all three. This is nothing like Hitler's rise to power. This time in history is nothing close to Chamberlin versus Churchill. This is a new kind of war, a covert war, economic war, and a gigantic political war with many rewards to be won. Despite the lives that will be lost and ruined. Again if the Military is dismantled even a little bit, the pacific can be still protected. It is called strategic replacment of resources. I think we need to rethink where our resources are going. I don't think we need many of the military instalations around the world that we have, we can keep a few, to keep this said world peace, even though the military industrial complex works against this interest. More like the past 15 years have been hijacked by mad men who only care in wealth and the power they obtain. These sanction's wont stop what is going to come, but hell let's make those people's live's worse while were at it.

It is that thinking anatess that has the American people in a noose. We all seem to have been convinced we can be invaded and bombed to oblivion. I do worry about israel. Ahmendinijhad is one crazy man and so is North Korea. Russia is easy to talk to and there only worried about our interests in the middle east. What could be done instead of sanction Iran to the point of no return is talks, and i will show you how. First let me point out these sanctions are morally wrong. These sanctions do not hurt the goverment but its people. We are trying to bring about revolution by these sanctions. All the while though people will be starving( famine) because of these sanctions. Living conditions will become worse. When its all over and if they do overthrow the regieme is there hate over? Who put them in those horrible conditions? They will direct tha thate to the west with more intrigue than ever before. If it is still possible, becuase time is running out, we need to talk to Iran. What could be done is to go and talk and say hey, we will lift these sanctions, we will step out of your buisness, we will let you govern yourselves, and we will let you and your people live in peace. You can also seek out your nuclear power for the benefit of your people. But if you as so much as get a nuke, but also show signs of using that nuke we will strike and make that move your demise. You would have proven to us you could not have been trusted. This is real talks. Puting sanctions on a nation, threatening a strike, and manuvering our military around them is like pointing a gun to someones head and asking them to comply. Are they going to trust you? Or do they expect the trigger to pulled even after? The regieme has a extreme phobia of jews, which makes peacefull talks more important. And if it does go south, a dismantled army smaller than we have now will still get things accomplished and in korea if need be. Russia see's a American monopoly in the region and is the reason why they have stepped up and said they would defend iran. Crazy enought even though were chinas biggest trade partne, they have also said the same thing. Now does a strike against iran sound sane? We are pushing the envelope for this war... May i remind you if it does go nuclear, China and Russia got nukes. The situation can destabalize very quickly with how we are running the show. I'd rather have my concience clean, knowing i did everything I could for the benefit of people and with moral way's. Than to have gone into fight knowing i have acted wrongly. And this will reflect on the nation after the war, even if it is the victor. A victor who has showed immoral actions before a war, cahnges how the country is run after a major war. Look into some history, the republic of rome, the chinease dynasties, The United Kingdom etc. When most of a population is not argueing against a move, such as a war. Take a step back, and recollect your thoughts and reasons why such action is being provoked. Iran getting a nuke is the most obvious reason why people want action, they have already been deemed with an action they have not commited(nukeing israel). Another is that iran is not yet under the petro dollar, thus it is not under The United States influence. There are many agenda's that lie behind a door, the Iran crisis is one of those doors, and im not sure I want to open it.

I think we all ask that question all the time. If he is the God that I believe and have learned of by the church then I can not complain. Or so i say. I may not understand his methods, but thing's will be okay as long as we try and stay close to him alway's and his teaching's.

You know something that could really help is dismantling our offensive military capabilities. We have a huge Military Industrial Complex, larger than what we can support. To keep it going requires war and arms trade in any conflict and nation. We need real 'talks' with our 'enemies' and step out of other nations buisnesses and soverignty. We can no longer support this structure. If we are liberators and a country for peace, why must we have a military so big to take on the entire world. Not occupy the entire world by war, but engage the entire worlds armies together. We need a defensive military structure, and industry back at home. So if ever needed we can mass produce the equipment we need. Plus even with our defensive army, we would still be a force to rekon with. I do not understand why a nation proceeds to have such a huge military without the funds to support, it is surviving on money we do not have. The economy will tank. We can interact with the world and we can do this still without such a huge military. The soviet union collapsed to over extensive military, and only when it collapsed did it disapear. No funds. Do we have to have a collapse for this? Even if it finnaly does fall apart, there will be lots of civil unrest in the Nation. As well if you owe mortgage to a bank, pay it off. Any debts, pay it off. In the crisis home removal may occure and forced debt payment. Whether by taking your belongings and home or imprisonment to serve time for your debt. This can be done, look at some of the new and old executive laws we have in place.

Ten to Twelve kid's is alot to handle, muchless eight. Every child need's attention and love. It's hard to do that with that many childeren. But if you can, then good for you and your wife. Also now these day's it's a struggle to support such a family and can be a strain on relationship. I say have kid's as you go and stop to when you feel it's to much. My older sister wanted eight kid's with her hsuband, and ended up only having four due to financial support and just the love and care required to raise childeren. And they are happy.

Some people dont work this way. Like an alcohol addiction, some can try every beverage there is and still not stop. I know you are just offering up a opinion to help, but this sounds dangerous. The way I conquered this addiction is by controling my thoughts. What usually leads to these actions is innpropriate thinking. To control actions one must control there thoughts aswell. It is very hard. But it was the only way i found to be a soultion. continuting to view more would just further indulge myself. People have different weaknesses to sin, mine was this. Good luck, I know its hard. Its espeacilly hard when the world tells you its normal. Animals masterbate due to instinct. We have instinct too, our hormones etc. We are childeren of God though and need to act more than just an animal. Although if you find yourself in this situation its not entirely bad. Dont think lowly of yourself. The point to avoid masterbation i feel is to teach temperence and learn it in this life. People learn this trait in different ways. Being a master of yourself. But heck dont beat yourself over this. Do what you can and it will come. Just dont give in to it and control your life. You were doing good and then fell back in. I did the same thing and then one day i managed to take control. So my opinion and advice is to control your thoughts and to not give up. Oh and dont beat yourself up to hard.

As long as you continue and dont quit. That is success, yes.

Sounds like hes saying, if your not reaching the point of perfection in everything that you do, then you will never be perfect or good in anything. Maybe what he was trying to say is that, if you dont try you wont ever have the chance to succede. The way it is right now, sounds like he wants a super perfect Man or Women. Failing is necessary inroder so that a individual can learn from it. If your not learning from it, then you have truely given up and failing. Point is to pick yourself back up again and to continue onwards.

Because this is a account not of your personal experience dont be so easy to dismiss it. Anyone can recieve revelation if spiritually ready to see past the veil. I no im not. But these accounts sound actually very real to me. America is the new babylon and will be on its knees in the last days... it will also be invaded. In these two stories or visions the invaders are Russia and China, and from the north perhaps england? The lion. These things dont have a date though. People as long as they turn their hearts to christ and love one another can fix things. I dont see anything blasphemous in it, unless you think the church giving the food storage to the UN is. I would assume if this happened we would be forced too. Its actually in a new law the NDAA, they can detain people with more tha n7 days worth of food in their home or land. And its not a doom and gloom account, she leaves a positive note to not be afraid and to turn to the lord and his guidence. Thank you for this link, ill keep it in mind.