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JudoMinja- I feel like I'm learning a bit more about how God must feel when he sees his children make bad choices, and I have to say that I don't like it. I think of the following scriptures: Moses 7:28 And it came to pass that the God of heaven looked upon the residue of the people, and he wept; 37 But behold, their sins shall be upon the heads of their fathers; Satan shall be their father, and misery shall be their doom; And the whole heavens shall weep over them, even all the workmanship of mine hands; wherefore should not the heavens weep, seeing these shall suffer? Jesus comes to Jerusalem and weeps because the city will not except him, and he'll have to allow the people to then after suffer terribly. Luke 41 And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it 42 Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes. 43 For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, 44 And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation. God knows the same pain, and he takes it, so I need to try to as well. mhsmd- I've never thought of sex being dangerous in this way, but now I'm seeing it. Right now me and some of the family are trying to figure out where he is. We haven't seen him since last night, he never came home, and he's not at his girlfriends apartment. He's been up and down lately and we're worried about him. Martian- Today I talked to my bishop (my friend is in the same ward) about what's going on and the Bishop is going to try hard to get him in just to talk, keeping the things that I've told him confidential. It's a YSA ward so the bishop has experience with these things. Hopefully that'll happen and that it'll help. I'll keep you posted.

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. What you say makes sense. I'll talk to him again, go from this direction. Maybe he'll decide to think a little more long term. It's hard for me to let go but I guess I just need to not care as much. Because of our age difference I've watched out for him for a long time, but I guess when people become independent adults there's not much you can do to affect them anymore. I guess that's the way it's supposed to be. At some point you stop looking to others for your decisions and look inside yourself.

So my best friend told me a couple of days ago that him and his girlfriend are regularly petting in his car. I would have never imagined that he would go this far! He says they're in love. He hasn't been to church for a few years but he always essentially lived a mormon lifestyle. What can I do to help him? Him and I are super close, we know everything about each other and do just about everything together, or at least that was true until all of this started happening. Now I feel like I don't know him anymore. I've heard him say things in support of chastity before, but now he says there's no doubt in his mind that this stuff he's been doing is the best thing that's ever happened to him. He won't talk about his beliefs about sex, and I don't think he knows what he thinks. He just likes this girl and is excited about what he's doing. I'm not married and can't relate with his experiences in this way. It was just last year that we were talking about our expectations for our first kisses. I feel alienated because of this. He's 21 and living on his own, and so I don't think it would make sense to tell his parents and betray his trust, and telling the bishop wouldn't help since he doesn't go to church (or should I anyway?). It's nice to at least get this off my chest. Any advice or similar stories would be much appreciated. The world outside of religion just wouldn't see this as a problem and hasn't been very helpful.

Hi I'm trying to remember some stories in the book of Mormon where justice being meted out is a key theme; either by a person or by God or events. Any suggestions?