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I don't know the conscientious of those who are LDS militants and I know it's not my place to judge them. This post is an open discussion about how one may feel in regards to mandatory military service and I don't and wouldn't agree with it. I truly disagree that military service promotes peace when it's created for enforcing political coercion among human beings. What does a militia have to offer that implements Christ-like characteristics? I understand if you are just preparing to combat in defense, while learning societal traits for a career everything seems fine. However, for example when the government sends troops across sea for transient causes that has been flipped and flopped, the question comes down to what are we fighting for? Governments have spiritually endangered many souls that are caught in the battlefield of confusion. In my opinion, when you are in the military you've signed your soul to the government. That your duty is to protect that country even if the politician ends up being a person whose character is of opposition to your religious faith. Death is conquered by a sure foundation of faith in Jesus Christ, is this not what his atonement exemplifies? To prove to us that we are capable of attaining eternal happiness if we live our lives in sync with the Gospel, if we have humiliation for all the wrongs that we may have committed, pray and walk by faith in Jesus Christ. We are living in these latter-days where the adversary is prevailing like the wind to and fro. Our only dignity is our hopes in all things, our only strengths is our faith in Jesus Christ, our only actions is our service of good deeds, charity, and healing. The gospel of Jesus Christ teaches us that we must heal each other from anger, retaliation, hate, grudges and greed. These are afflictions of emotions that human beings are bound to possess regardless of race or creed. To each is own, I just feel that joining the military is only making the Government stronger and more capable of controlling and owning its citizens through indebtedness and a physical contract that most citizens who are in desperate need of something from their society incoherently sign. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind - Ghandi The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. -Ghandi

Militia's is for the profane, it is a secular involvement mixed with political psychological and scientifical reasonings. When one believes fear is of the lost of their life and not the wrath of our Heavenly Father, one does not believe in the eternal salvation and the masterplan of peace and prosperity. We have been living these latter-days in the uprising of warfares, to think that otherwise would be like Peter denying Christ unto the pharisees. I think of our savior and I think of politicians and it's really not that hard to differentiate their purpose and causes from Jesus Christ. I don't know how one can serve two Gods, a military is created by the abominable organization "Governments". There is the mankind laws and the divine and Holy laws and we are in the middleway. How can one be spiritually in tune but physically out of touch with Jesus if they actively killed kids in other countries but given justification through political reasonings that these kids were born into a "guerilla" family to lighten the guilt. In many countries "Governments" has been extremist regardless, to think that freedom exist because of capitalism and consumerism is preposterous. There is this saying that "Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is Freedom" 2 Corinthians 3:17. I have only felt freedom when I go to church and during that momment in time and space does it seem like a split second and then right back to the consumer demands of the material world. I'm hopeful for people to be enlightened and seek for peace in America and in the Middle East. It's unfortunate that so many are hopeless that they share there doubts just to support another in doubt and become doubters. But I am thankful for the church that encourages to uplift the spirits of those in need of comfort or to bless those who are afflicted and those who may be in need of shelter, food and jobs. The problem is consumerism, militia's are created in the false pretense to protect its citizens yet enslave them in the policy yielding corporate society through political coercions. Everything I've stated is just my opinions and the way I feel about these days. I apologize if I offend anyone, I have family members in the military who before they served were loving and caring now they are like robots serving the purpose of the "Government" just to provide for their family.

Thanks so much all! I'm so thankful for your enlightenments on the subject and still have much to learn to understand about Jesus Christ and be able to witness of his teachings that blesses me. Take care and happy holidays each of you!

Hi, I had family home-evening with my sister and her husband, Chapter 7 was there area of reading and discussion that night. I'm just curious as to anyone and everyone's thoughts on this chapter and specifically the verses in the thread 24-30 of Chapter 7. What was going on? Where did this take place? What was the problem? How was it handled and by whom? And what's the purpose of this story in the scriptures? I appreciate your time. I just want to know what others understanding is upon these verses. Possibly to better clarify my understanding of this scripture. Thanks.

These five common misconceptions of the Bible is a work of contention, the Bible is not a book that you read and move on to the next one. The Bible is a book that you read again and again to replenish the soul with comforts from the stories of the many different humans who've faced trials and tribulations spiritually, yet were able to overcome through the grace of Heavenly Father and the teachings of Jesus Christ.

I totally feel what you're stating "Anatess", times is getting rough and our government is falling short. I mean I'm sure you know of the G. Patreaus issues. We as members of the LDS faith can only implement so much in society as role models. However, our priority is our families and those we've introduced into the gospel and encouraging them to become people who are worthy to stand in holy places. When I heard the roast that Romney gave, I was pretty stunned and enjoyed it. It didn't seem like him though to enjoy that type of environment but when you become a politician you have to convey the whole memoir of a politician. I'm very grateful that Romney isn't the President because I truly believe that Heavenly Father wouldn't jeopardize a valuable son of his to a corrupted organization. The political organization is the abominable church that is falling further away from acknowledging "God" in our Declaration of independence and reforming legislatures to accomodate to the human natures of inclinations. I see things like politicians coming out of the closet about their bi-sexuality and the General that's resigning due to having an affair. The time is nigh, I'm happily helping family and friends in making a difference with the light of Christ that I love to shine. Take care...

It's the abominable church of politics where it can divide families into supporters of two opposite Grand Old Parties of liberals and conservatives. It can turn a love one into a mad hatter that wants to run over someone thought to be so dear to them. What do you make of this? Well, for one those who think the government is the answer to all problems have just been warned that if the house of congress cannot come to an agreement on the issues at stake everyones taxes will be raised regardless of income bracket. LOL -The End-

I'm just so grateful for the Conference, everytime I hear the stories of experiences and testimonies it fills my eyes and I try to resist showing my tears and turn my head from my kids seeing me cry, which I recommend people shouldn't. Kids are really spiritual and humble in such a young age and when they see such sentiments they know what one is in need of which is Heavenly fathers compassion and Jesus Christ atonement. Truly, it's a blessing worldwide to have this uniqueness in this church of Jesus Christ. Everyone is going through hardships whether it's political, physical, emotional and social. We have so much division and turmoil going on even within our own homes but to be able to unite and remind each other of our beloved brethren Jesus Christ who leads us the way and the love our Heavenly Father has for us, we are able to help one another in uniting with charity, uplifting each others spirit and hope for better days to come. We must truly strive to make a difference in others lives as Latter-day Saints because those are the imprints that our Savior has done for us. I understand that we must come out from Babylon, but we must also cultivate the goodness out of people so that they may in their own revelations and desire turn their lives around to Heavenly Father. I'm so blessed and thankful, and God bless everyone and have a wonderful sabbath day, afternoon, evening or night. :)

When I read of Rev 17:5 " And upon her forehead was a name written, (a)MYSTERY, (b)BABYLON THE GREAT, THE ©MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.", this verse has footnotes a,b, and c. (If you are reading a Joseph Smith Translated version of the King James Bible.) Footnote (a) is Mystery: when you read the footnote it's referencing to the Topical Guide Secret Combinations. If you would like more basic information of what we believe secret combinations consists of you may read this link:TG Secret Combinations, however, I would like to share a quote: Footnote (b) is Babylon: TG Babylon, basically Babylon is the influence of wickedness, I think of people who don't believe in God, peace, it's not necessarily a society with moral conduct/structure but a band or group of people with personal agenda's that is not united in God yet used with physical coercion. Footnote © is Mother: D&C 88:94 "And another angel shall sound his trump, saying: That (a)great (b)church, the ©mother of abominations, that made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her (d)fornication, that (e)persecuteth the saints of God, that shed their blood-behold she who sitteth upon many waters, and upon the islands of the sea-behold, she is the (f)tares of the earth; she is bound in bundles; her bands are made strong, no man can loose them; therefore, she is ready to be burned. And he shall sound his trump both long and loud, and all nations shall hear it." There is 6 footnotes which are: Footnote (a):1 Ne. 13:6(4-9) Footnote (b):TG Devil, Church of. Footnote ©: Rev. 17:5 (5-15) Footnote (d): Rev.14:8 Footnote (e): TG Hate; Persecution Footnote (f): Matthew 13:38;D&C 64:24(23-24);D&C 101:24(23-25). TG Earth, Cleansing of. As I read this excerpt it becomes clear to me that we are living in Babylon and the mother of the abominable church it's everywhere in organizations, politics, society. We must be able to physically discern away from the ways of sodom and gammorah, greed, hate, malice, violence, warfare, stealing and keep our eyes single to the glory of God. By doing so we are remembering our individual covenants we make with Heavenly Father and choosing to follow the light of Jesus Christ in what we do and how we live. Anything pertaining contrary to natures or creed of Jesus Christ is of the devils way and leads people to become spiritually enslaved by the adversary until they die as unbelievers.

Satan Satan, also called the adversary or the devil, is the enemy of all righteousness and of those who seek to follow God. He is a spirit son of God who was once an angel "in authority in the presence of God" (D&C 76:25; see also Isaiah 14:12; D&C 76:26–27). But in the premortal Council in Heaven, Lucifer, as Satan was then called, rebelled against God. Since that time, he has sought to destroy the children of God on the earth and to make them miserable. _________________________________________________________________________________ One primary issue in the conflict between God and Satan is agency. Agency is a precious gift from God; it is essential to His plan for His children. In Satan's rebellion against God, Satan "sought to destroy the agency of man" (Moses 4:3). He said: "I will redeem all mankind, that one soul shall not be lost, and surely I will do it; wherefore give me thine honor" (Moses 4:1). Satan persuaded "a third part of the hosts of heaven" to turn away from the Father (D&C 29:36). As a result of this rebellion, Satan and his followers were cut off from God's presence and denied the blessing of receiving a physical body (see Revelation 12:9). Heavenly Father allows Satan and Satan's followers to tempt us as part of our experience in mortality (see 2 Nephi 2:11–14; D&C 29:39). Because Satan "seeketh that all men might be miserable like unto himself" (2 Nephi 2:27), he and his followers try to lead us away from righteousness. He directs his most strenuous opposition at the most important aspects of Heavenly Father's plan of happiness. For example, he seeks to discredit the Savior and the priesthood, to cast doubt on the power of the Atonement, to counterfeit revelation, to distract us from the truth, and to contradict individual accountability. He attempts to undermine the family by confusing gender, promoting sexual relations outside of marriage, ridiculing marriage, and discouraging childbearing by married adults who would otherwise raise children in righteousness. Individuals do not have to give in to Satan's temptations. Each person has the power to choose good over evil, and the Lord has promised to help all who seek Him through sincere prayer and faithfulness. See also Agency; Sin; Temptation _________________________________________________________________________________

When I watched Johnny Lingo it's deeper than what people just see from actions. Mahana grew up in a home where her father puts her down, the village she was raised puts her down. Johnny Lingo saw pure interest in Mahana not for her looks but for what she did, she was a girl of talents she knew how to cook, prepare a home yet people saw little of value in those type of things. Johnny Lingo sought for Mahana because he knew she would be a suitable wife/mother to raise a family. This is from my own interpretation....

Satan is the father of contentions, misdirections and lies, when one lies and misdirects they are cut off from the literal blessings of exaltation. It may not be an instant that those who choose to lie go punished, but through time and season will what once was in darkness come to light. We cannot be bothered by others and the choices they make in how they live, but we can help them if required of us. With the knowledge that Satan is evil we already have a written consent through the scriptures that his ways is not the ways of the Lord. These written testaments of old expresses many similar cases of what many of us face in these Latter-days. Accountability is a essential factor in our spiritual merit, in my opinion, when we have the knowledge of Jesus Christ and choose to adhere and administer as disciples we must understand the sacred/holy authority that's being engaged in this manner. Sins is not brought upon because of Satan or Adam, but because one chooses to give into whatever sin is upon them in that momment. What I'm stating is that we have the idea that Satan is not of righteousness, when one does not choose the right one is succumbing as his follower. Thus when we do good we are trying to be like Jesus and seeking to follow in his ways. Being a Saint is an enduring process and is not accomplished in this temporal state but sought in achieving spiritually (for those who is seeking to do the will of Heavenly Fathers). One cannot compare lies when its entirety is unrighteous. To believe in something so sacred and holy such as covenant with Heavenly Father is wonderful, but when one try's to shake the very foundation of that belief it's too late for it was built upon the rock of Jesus Christ. For those whom do not believe in Jesus Christ and his ways they have built their lifestyle, homes, all means necessary upon what? Upon themselves, there personal wants or needs, and when you think of this it becomes apparent that there is no one to gain glory but themselves. Now, when you think about the gospel of Jesus Christ and how everything evolves around him and his teachings everyone is able to give, do good deeds, be spiritually inspired on a common denominator. It becomes clear that the glory is an eye single to our Heavenly Father, Jesus is the one and the last way to our salvation and exaltation with our Eternal Father. Who else on earth can help us to return to Heavenly Father, even in these Latter-days? Our prophets, bishops, missionaries, young women and young men leaders, visiting teachers, and family home evenings must evolve in teaching about Jesus Christ. Not one lesson in church or in the scriptures have I encountered had nothing to do with our Savior, for everything was a testament to his coming and resurrection.

Our sufferings is what chastens us, improves us, builds us, the compassion our Heavenly Father has for us if we are willing to endure along the gospels of Jesus Christ.

Being with family and helping my brothers and sisters with family task from going out to family reunions. Making my grandma smile, giving to others, and doing things in my community that's making a positive difference. The Church of Jesus Christ of these Latter-day Saints brings joy to my life constantly!!

To believe in Jesus Christ and live like him in thoughts and deeds is orthodox LDS.