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    NightSG reacted to JohnsonJones in How is the Church doing handling the latest crisis?   
    Depending on how "woke" they are, do you really think more pulpit pounding is going to change their minds?
    The problem I see today is that people are more married to a political party or belief rather than a religious one.  Therefore, they worship their graven idols of political ideology rather than the Lord above.  As it is with their parents, so it is with the children.
    In that light, many of the youth that are posting these things probably would put their political beliefs above that of religious ones, and when confronted with conflicts between the two, choose the political belief over that of religion.
    We see it in the generation before them and the generation before that (mine had drugs, immorality, and rock & roll, and very little could be done to sway kids of my generation from that mindset when they decided to follow it.  There were others like me who would have been seen as straight laced at the time, but those who were patriotic and love the flag at times were the mocking posts for those who did not, and those who held to religion as a bastion were at times seen as fanatical rather than moral).  I'm not sure if the church turning up the volume would do much to change many of these individual's minds.
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    NightSG reacted to Emmanuel Goldstein in Trump's Bible   
    Some are even criticizing him because he had a bible that does not say "Holy Bible" on the cover. What a bunch of loons.
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    NightSG reacted to anatess2 in Trump's Bible   
    Bush was crucified too.  He just never fought back.  Trump is the first Republican I know who gives as much if not more than he gets.
    I find it hilarious that Bush, Colin Powell, and Romney are competing on who gets to denounce Trump the most.  Colin Powell - the guy who was one of the people who gave us the Iraq War and broke off the Republican Party to praise Obama's war... now telling us Trump is dangerous to our country.  Hah hah.
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    NightSG reacted to Vort in Trump's Bible   
    Trump is a flawed character. Separately from this, he has made himself a target for soulless cynics, who use his manifest character flaws to crucify him.
    "Crucify" is probably the right word here; they would treat him the same if he were Jesus Christ. Bill Clinton is at least as morally damaged as Trump, but the media and other elements of the Democratic establishment have always given him a pass.
    Fundamentally, this is not about Trump. This is about destroying anyone who stands in the way of "progress" as defined by the "progressives". Which, by the way, includes the riots the US is now experiencing.
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    NightSG reacted to anatess2 in Trump's Bible   
    You need to expand your horizons.
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    NightSG reacted to Jamie123 in Trump's Bible   
    Why is every YouTuber saying that Trump held up the Bible upside down? And why is that such a big deal anyway? (Someone was even calling it "blasphemy"!)
    OK have a go at him for sending soldiers with tear gas and rubber bullets to clear Lafayette Square of peaceful protesters, so he be photographed standing in front of a church holding up a (closed) Bible saying "Look at me! I'm a Christian! Here's my Bible for goodness sake!" (Well OK - he didn't literally say that, but that was his message.) I get that.
    But as for the Bible (and whether it was his own actual Bible that he reads every night before saying his prayers, or one he got from the White House library and dusted off for the occasion, we don't know) it was clearly the RIGHT WAY UP. The ends of the bookmark ribbons were clearly dangling from underneath it. If it were upside down, they would be flopped over the top.
    Let's keep things in proportion!
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    NightSG reacted to mordorbund in Kneeling Congress   
    I'm gonna need someone to explain to me the rules for cultural appropriation again.
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    NightSG reacted to anatess2 in Kneeling Congress   
    Fun factoid:
    The Kente they are wearing is a Ghanian cultural cloth originating from the Ashanti Kingdom... guess what the Ashanti's did... you're not gonna guess... they ran the slave trade.  Bwaaaaahahaha.  Democrats are so stupid.
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    NightSG reacted to Emmanuel Goldstein in Kneeling Congress   
    They kneeled longer than they ever have in their lives, for anything.

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    NightSG reacted to Carborendum in .   
    Honestly, I was doing searches for what he actually said.  But I couldn't find anything.  I could only find the criticisms of him going to a church to hold up a Bible.  I heard the bishops of that church condemn him for saying things that were "antithetical to Biblical teachings."  But I couldn't find what the freak he said.
    There's unbiased media for you.
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    NightSG reacted to anatess2 in .   
    Did we forget that the reason Trump walked to that Church is because protesters set it on fire?
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    NightSG reacted to Carborendum in .   
    I agree with PC. Even if you throw in all the conservative political issues, the most important issue to conservative Christians that trumps (forgive the intended double meaning) all other issues is religious freedom.  So, consider these points:
    Democrats, for all their rhetoric about freedom and their individual claims of faith and Biblical reverence, they will always chomp at the bit to support legislation, regulation, and judicial rulings that curtail religious freedom for conservative Christians. Trump, the adulterous, womanizing, cussing, bullying, immoral, depraved, a-religious President has done his best to support religious freedom for the conservative Christian. What do you expect us to do?
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    NightSG reacted to Vort in .   
    No. But when they are instructed by law enforcement officials to clear the area and they decide their protesting is more important, then my sympathy evaporates.
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    NightSG reacted to prisonchaplain in .   
    Probably not. We're too busy being infuriated at how quickly the Democrats re-discovered the 1st Amendment, after telling us we were killing the world by demanding to go to church--by-drive-through, without being ticketed $500 by the state patrol. Now these same folks are calling anyone who mentions COVID-19 'tone deaf.' It's just that when Bush conservatives get mad, instead of throwing petrol bombs we cast ballots.
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    NightSG reacted to person0 in .   
    I didn't vote for Trump last time, because I thought he was lying and would actually end up being a leftist, so I went third party.  That said, I'm definitely voting for him this time; I feel he has proven enough that he truly cares about our country and wants it to remain the greatest country in the world, and is implementing good policies.  Were you planning to vote third party this November?  Just curious.
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    NightSG reacted to Carborendum in .   
    Who is actually surprised by this?  2 Corinthians walked into a bar...
    You're right.  But there is more to it than that.
    They did not seem to be violent, but neither is blocking the exit to a movie theater when a fire has broken out.  There were people in places they weren't supposed to be.  And they blocked regular traffic and free passage of other people (including the President).   I can't tell from the videos if there was a line that was crossed (both figuratively and literally).
    Whenever there is a Presidential motorcade or an appearance by the President, a perimeter is set up.  If the protesters violated that perimeter, they are to be removed.  Peaceably if possible.  But forcibly if necessary.  This has been the practice for I don't know how long.  But I believe Lyndon Johnson enforced it.
    And given the violent nature of the country at present it was a reasonable assumption that anyone who went into that perimeter (if you'll look closely, you can see fencelines and so forth) was up to no good.  They had stormed the White House for Pete's sake.  They broke down barricades and graffiti'd police cars and white house property.  One mad pled guilty to a plan to blow up the white house.
    Maybe they were peaceful at that moment.  But for the past several days, they showed they were willing to use violent methods to express their anger.  In the midst of that environment, was it wise to give the protesters who were still there, the benefit of the doubt?
    I've already agreed about the stupidity of his attempt to present himself as a religious man.  I think on some level he does consider himself a religious man.  But it's about as ridiculous as a "once saved, always saved" Christian believing he's fine living a life of debauchery and self-defeating (even violent, hateful) behaviors, because after all, he "pled the blood of Christ."  Yes, this aspect of Trump really makes me want to turn my back on him.
    As for "showing he wasn't hiding", I don't know much about that.  Did he say that?  Was that his intent?  I thought it was just another politician doing a politician's thing.  It is an election year after all.  And it's not like other politicians aren't doing the same thing.  Yes, it's stupid.  Yes, I rolled my eyes when I first read it.  But seriously, what do you expect?
    You have to at least admit that this was mostly the same crowd that had just broken down barricades and vandalized the white house.  Nationwide, we have people trowing explosives at businesses and government buildings.  I know that we're all sympathetic to the anger and indignation they feel.  But is that justified?  One person was murdered, so we go on a murder and rampaging spree? 
    It turns out that most of the people doing the violent things aren't thinking about Floyd anwyay.  They were just common looters, thieves, and vandals.  They're just common criminals.  There are plenty of the sincere ones who point that out by explaining that they, themselves, are not with those violent guys.
    The troops can be justified.  There is precedent for it.  But due to some legislation (I believe last century) there is a limit on what the US military can do to US citizens.  For instance, I don't think they can actually shoot a citizen in this type of circumstance unless they would be justified in doing so as a private citizen (like self-defense).
    I realize you don't like the guy.  But I think this is a bit harsh considering the level of violence all over the country -- and he hasn't even sent out a single soldier.
    I'll have to admit some bias and schadenfreude.  I don't think there are a whole lot of people in the country who are all that sympathetic to the media.  Yes, it could be considered excessive.  And, yes, it could possibly be a civil rights issue (although that can be debated considering perimeter and all).  But I just can't bring myself to shed a tear over the media getting forced back to the perimeter.
    It is times like this where I wonder if I would benefit from violating the WoW myself.
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    NightSG reacted to Just_A_Guy in .   
    To be fair, it’s not like the police don’t do *anything* towards those ends.  It just means that—rightly or wrongly—they have their limits. 
    To my mind, one of the really amusing things about all the leftist cop-hate we’re seeing, is that it’s the left whose policies really rely on the police for enforcement.  It’s the left who wants to use police power to shut down “discriminatory” businesses, to nanny quarantine-breakers, to track and seize privately-owned guns, to regulate professions from hair-cutting to nail-filing, to harass parents who won’t subject their kids to state indoctrination in the public schools, to go after citizens who buck progressives’ idea of paying “their fair share” in taxes, to punish businesses that don’t have a sufficient quota of gender-based or race-based hires, to prevent convenience stores from selling cigarettes individually rather than in packages . . . and so on, and so on.   If the citizenry isn’t scared spitless of the cops, 75% of progressive social theory comes apart.  
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    NightSG reacted to Carborendum in .   
    I don't know the legal precedents other than supposedly police have no responsibility to protect any individual from criminal action.
     
    Under the idea of just letting the protesters destroy everything...
    The question I'd as is that if they have no responsibility to protect the safety and security of citizens and their property, what exactly is their function?  What are we paying taxes to support?
    To enforce the law? To bring people to justice? Punish the guilty? It doesn't seem any such goals are being fulfilled by letting protesters run amok.  So, what is their purpose? Why do I pay tax dollars to support them?
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    NightSG reacted to anatess2 in .   
    I hate to invoke Godwin's Law on this... just pardona moi for the reference but it's just the perfect example.  As a child I have always wondered why the Jews peacefully filed into camps and box trains.... 
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    NightSG reacted to Plein Air in .   
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    NightSG reacted to Traveler in .   
    When government decides not to uphold the law and to not protect property - What else is it for?
     
    The Traveler
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    NightSG reacted to anatess2 in Bad Citizens or Religious Liberty Guardians   
    I've explained this before - albeit a long time ago - about classical liberalism and classical conservatism and how this applies to the USA.  I'll try to be succinct without muddying waters.
    So, George Washington, et. al., are classical liberals.  The British Monarchy is classical conservative.  Classical liberalism is about freeing the individual from societal mores codified in law or established in common law.  Classical conservatism is about conserving societal mores and traditions established in common law and codifying it for strength so the individual can't easily change it in the name of progress.
    In the USA, this paradigm changed because George Washington, et. al., CODIFIED classical liberalism in the US Constitution.  So as the USA progressed, the tradition of liberty and limited government (classical liberalism) became the societal mores and traditions as far as Federal governance goes - so to be conservative to the US Constitution in the USA is classical liberalism anywhere else outside of the USA.  And therefore, the Whigs in the USA and in Britain are classical liberals both fighting to give more power to the people and limiting government (USA) and empowering Parliament over the Crown (Britain).
    Today, strict adherence to a limited government by strengthening the US Constitution is a conservative position but strengthening State Laws to impose moral control over the people is ALSO a conservative position in the USA - anywhere outside of the USA, this would be two opposing ideologies and this is why classical conservatism and classical liberalism does not apply to US politics.  E.g. you can't equate US conservatism to Nazis, for example.
    And this is also why I believe the US Constitution (without equal anywhere else in the world, not even the Philippine Constitution that is patterned after it) is divinely inspired.
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    NightSG reacted to anatess2 in Bad Citizens or Religious Liberty Guardians   
    Hah!  No, it is not.
    They're an anti CCP publication which bleeds into anti-big-government anti-corruption pro-US-Constitution (limited government).  These are not necessarily conservative positions - not classical conservatism (it is very classical liberal) nor American conservatism (American liberalism is currently lost in the forest) as conservatives are pro-government-expansion when it comes to morality laws.
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    NightSG reacted to Emmanuel Goldstein in Tyranny of the State   
    Am I the only one who thinks this is out of control. Since when do Executive Orders overide the 4th amendment?