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    ctr2961 reacted to zil in Adult Scripture Classes vs BYU Scripture Classes.   
    Another book series that you might find useful is the Verse by Verse books - they have them for all the volumes of scripture - usually 2 books per volume.  Here's the Deseret Book page:
    https://deseretbook.com/p/verse-book-mormon-volume-1-first-nephi-alma-29-d-kelly-ogden-79721?ref=Grid | Search-11&variant_id=18824-hardcover
    ...but search Amazon too, as they sometimes have better prices.
    I haven't used the Book of Mormon ones, but as far as I can tell, they mean it literally - they go verse by verse.  If you're looking for detail, these may be the ticket.
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    ctr2961 reacted to zil in Adult Scripture Classes vs BYU Scripture Classes.   
    These are written by the same BYU professors who do the BYU religion class videos found here:
    https://www.byutv.org/programaz?listid=f501cc9f-1e17-4d6b-a418-037e6e474722&layout=grid
    Book of Mormon class here:
    https://www.byutv.org/show/06254a9a-bcd9-4fe5-b0cb-5193905e7d8b/discussions-on-the-book-of-mormon
    ...so you could watch the class to see if you like their style, or use the class and the institute manual and/or the Verse by Verse book together, or any other subset or combination.
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    ctr2961 reacted to Vort in Student Worksheets of the Book of Mormon   
    If you are older than 21, I suggest looking into this book:
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075KLSSH5/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
    I have leafed through it, and it looks like it would be an excellent resource to stimulate thought.
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    ctr2961 reacted to Sunday21 in Being Single in a Family Ward   
    Some people like tidiness. They like to put all the red balls here and the blue balls there. If they were to serve you a meal, no doubt they would be clearing your plate away before you had finished dinner. Ignore them. I suspect there will be special counseling for them in the celestial kingdom. 
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    ctr2961 reacted to seashmore in Being Single in a Family Ward   
    Not yet. 
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    ctr2961 reacted to zil in Being Single in a Family Ward   
    Really?  Your grocery store didn't carry Kraft Singles?
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    ctr2961 got a reaction from marge in Anger at Prophet and General Authority   
    That the problem with my ward.  I have no "friends" in the ward.  Most of my friends has moved and members left are familes that are too busy to associate with anyone.  I was in the hospital for 6 months and keep calling the bishopric for a blessing and no one showed.  I had a nurse call the Church HQ(LDS.org) to get a phone number from missionary to do a blessing.
     
    In the church defense, the phone number I had was from a old bulletin where the Bishop and the ward Secretary was no longer in the ward.
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    ctr2961 reacted to Sunday21 in Anger at Prophet and General Authority   
    We are your friends! Ask us your questions! 
    Mind you, the way the scriptures are designed, they work on many different levels so there are many different applications.
    Why not start a little journal here of your church lessons? We can chime in and supplement with suggested readings.
    Gospel subjects are complex. I tend to look at things with respect to the stage I am at at the moment. When I progress, there will be another application for the next stage of my life.
    If you are someone for whom ambiguity is uncomfortable, then gospel study can be frustrating. However, many people are uncomfortable with ambiguity so we can help! 
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    ctr2961 got a reaction from Jane_Doe in Ordering from LDS Distribution Center   
    I work with computers everyday to a point my eyes and head hurts.  So when I come home, I am mostly electronic free.  When I do scripture study, I "hit the books". 
    I just haven't order stuff much from the distribution center, so I did not know if there was any restrictions(except ordering garments).
    Also I just saw there is a big sales on discontinued stuff on the website. That may also cause some issues.
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    ctr2961 reacted to Jane_Doe in Ordering from LDS Distribution Center   
    Sounds like a technical glitch.  Click the 'help' link (at the bottom of the page) and they're get the glitch fixed.   Anyone is allowed to order anything, except for temple clothes which do require a recommend. 
    (Also, if you want manuals and all, everything is available for free download.  The cost for the print version is simply to cover printing & shipping costs).  
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    ctr2961 reacted to zil in Hiring Young Women to Decorate my Home   
    It would be watching it burn up in the fireplace that would make me feel warm, Mr. Intentionally Obtuse.
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    ctr2961 got a reaction from SilentOne in Hiring Young Women to Decorate my Home   
    Explains why when I am home I feel so drained and tired.  No color or no pattern.  No motivation.  Maybe the first decoration should be a picture of the presidency.   I am considering of getting a piano to practice hymns at home.
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    ctr2961 got a reaction from Sunday21 in Hiring Young Women to Decorate my Home   
    Explains why when I am home I feel so drained and tired.  No color or no pattern.  No motivation.  Maybe the first decoration should be a picture of the presidency.   I am considering of getting a piano to practice hymns at home.
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    ctr2961 reacted to Iggy in Anger at Prophet and General Authority   
    Why must we only socialize under the roof of the meetinghouse??? For the majority of the members of my Branch, the mileage to homes is not more than 8 miles north and 18 miles south and 8 miles east. Going west you will be in the pacific ocean! When church is not in session we meet at cafe's, restaurants, parks, for walks/picnics on the beach, in each other's homes. I know a month in advance when I will be doing my once a month shopping[the 1st Wed. after payday] and I post it on my RS FB page - if there is any sister who wants to tag along for a 6 hour shopping trip. OR when I want to go to the next largest town to the south of us to do the thrift store, clothing store, and browse the ReStore then I call the sister who is always wanting to go there, but wants a shopping buddy. This next trip is her turn in her empty full size truck. I'll pay half the gas and my own lunch!
    We have dinners with other couples and for hubby and I we invite the older single adults or couples with children over 8 yo. Younger children tend to stretch our comfort zone to it's max, and these dinners are meant to be enjoyable & relaxing.
    We take turns going to others homes for brunch after church.Come the 1st of the year, ours will end at noon, that means that those of us who are diabetic our blood glucose levels won't be crashing leaving us shaking, weak, and pinging off of furniture. It gives us an additional hour of Visit With Other time where we can discuss the topics that were brought up at church that day ~ Gospel Doctrine, RS & PH.
    @ctr2961 when I first married hubby I moved to his town in central AZ - 1,332 miles from my home, the home where I had lived for 26 years. He introduced me to the men he knew and had grown up with, they in turn introduced me to their mother's and wives. Three months later my husband was in the hospital, his blood was NOT clotting, and to me it felt like it was taking weeks to find out what was causing this. In reality it was only days! BUT not a single one of those men - who he grew up with - who also were members of the church - or their mothers or their wives contacted me. Comforted me. NO ONE visited my husband in the hospital. I finally called the Patriarch, because his name was the only name I could remember and I cried over the phone. Only then did the PH visit Hubby in the hospital. Only then did the RS President come to my house with a single serving meal for me. That was also the last time she came to my house. The last time she called me. The last time she greeted me at the meetinghouse.
    I was a dark time for me. My family was 1,500 miles away. His son was 2300 miles away, his daughter lives in Hawaii. I felt so alone. BUT I didn't stop going to church. I didn't get angry at the members of my ward there, or the Stake Presidency, all of whom went to elementary to high school with hubby. I had gone that route before. Because I had been offended by a group of nitwit sisters, I left the church. Stayed away for 30 years too. What a real NitWit I had been.
    After I found out where to find our ward/stake directory on-line, I started calling the RS sisters asking for specific help. I called his PH buddies requesting they go and give him blessings and I told them I was in his room waiting because I NEEDED blessings too.
    After hubby was healed and released, it took me 3 months to find out who our HT were, and in doing so found out that they had been assigned to us one Sunday after we had been *read in over the pulpit* into the ward's membership. I didn't quit going to church because they hadn't visited us. I invited them and their wives over for Saturday night dinners. Then after dinner I asked the Brethren if they could share with us the First Presidencies Message from the current Ensign. That kick-started the Home Teaching from them. I found out who my VT were, and rather than invite them and their husbands for dinner - by then hubby was back to work and his shift started at 3:30 pm and ended around midnight. So I invited them to lunch - dutch. It actually took longer for them to call me for a VT visit - but I persevered.
    Rather than continue to seek friendships with the sisters my own age, I sought out friendships with the sisters who were my mom's age.
    Nearly all events at church my hubby couldn't attend because he was working, that didn't deter me. I went alone. I sought out the mom & grandma aged sisters and I had a blast.
    @ctr2961 you need to knock down those road blocks that you and others have put up. Seek out an older, childless couple and *fellowship* them. Seek out other single men in your ward, and stake.
    AND we members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints don't hire the YW or YM to help us with any projects in and around our homes. If you decide to have the YM AND the YW come and paint the interior of your home, then gather the YM AND YW Presidents together and ask them for the help. BUT, from experience let me tell you - you had best have all your *eggs* in a row. In Other Words - have your furniture moved to the middle of every room. Have the walls washed AND rinsed of all soap. Have all the paint purchased, along with enough rollers, paint brushes, paint trays, ladders, painters tape, drop cloths, for every room you wish painted as well as for everyone who will be painting.
    The first time I did this, I was prepared with all the items needed  - but my helpers had NO CLUE how to properly paint. I lived with the chaos on the walls for 3 years, then I painted over it properly. So, to do it properly, go to your local hardware or paint store, where you purchased your paint, and ask them to demonstrate to your youth group. It is a 30 minute seminar generally and it covers how to cut in, as well as how to paint a wall with a roller.
    I lucked out in that I worked at the local hardware store where I bought my paint, and I had gone to three, 3-day seminars on Paint in the 8 years I worked there. So, the third house I lived in that needed to be painted, I contacted the paint company and they came to my home and demonstrated the proper way to paint. Didn't cost me a thing, and here at my branch I really got to know the YM, YW AND their parents.
    I also lucked out that one of the sisters in my branch was a retired interior designer. She spent two days in my home, day and night, going over my belongings. She even went through my clothes, bath linens, kitchen cupboards. Then a week later she brought me about 30 paint samples. We thumb-tacked them on the walls and together we made the final selections.
    So, go seek friendships. You don't have to do much more than ask if you can sit next to someone. AND make sure that someone is a brother or a single sister. Go to all the activities. Go to all of the baptisms. Fellowship the newly baptized adults. STOP wallowing in self pity. 
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    ctr2961 got a reaction from zil in Hiring Young Women to Decorate my Home   
    Explains why when I am home I feel so drained and tired.  No color or no pattern.  No motivation.  Maybe the first decoration should be a picture of the presidency.   I am considering of getting a piano to practice hymns at home.
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    ctr2961 reacted to Vort in Anger at Prophet and General Authority   
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    ctr2961 got a reaction from zil in Anger at Prophet and General Authority   
    That the problem with my ward.  I have no "friends" in the ward.  Most of my friends has moved and members left are familes that are too busy to associate with anyone.  I was in the hospital for 6 months and keep calling the bishopric for a blessing and no one showed.  I had a nurse call the Church HQ(LDS.org) to get a phone number from missionary to do a blessing.
     
    In the church defense, the phone number I had was from a old bulletin where the Bishop and the ward Secretary was no longer in the ward.
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    ctr2961 reacted to anatess2 in Anger at Prophet and General Authority   
    Hi ctr, believe it or not, I'm one of those that don't like the new changes.  It's doubly hard for me because President Monson was my husband and I's favorite prophet.  I sustained President Nelson and have faith that he is led by Christ but I still have to build a testimony of that.
    So, about these changes... I don't like it.  I do not like that church is 2 hours instead of 3.  I would have no problem if church is 4 hours instead of 3.  I don't like that the personal and family scripture study is thought of as a "replacement" of that 1 hour class on the Sabbath.  I believe that personal and family scripture study is a given - we do it everyday.  My husband is the scoutmaster.  I'm a cub den leader.  My husband's father was my husband's scoutmaster when he was in boy scouts.  We are very big on scouts as a family and my son just got his eagle.  The changes to the BSA and the church program is causing us a lot of grief.
    That said... I have a testimony that the restored gospel is true and that the LDS Church is the true church that Christ organized on earth.  Therefore, although I struggle through these changes, I have faith that God has a plan for these things, I just haven't figured out what that plan is.
    So, this is what I'm doing - For a few weeks now, I've been going through lds.org and reading through President Nelson's talks from before he became President of the Church.  There are several gems there that I loved before and so I read through them again to build that testimony of his authority.  I've prayed about these changes - haven't received the comfort of the Spirit on them yet, though - but last Sunday, I was supposed to teach CTR5 (I have 2 callings) but, it just so happened that because a lot of our ward families traveled to Panama City to do disaster relief, I ended up with no kids to teach!  So, I attended Relief Society.  And it just so happened that they were talking about Personal Scripture Study!  It was like an answer to my prayer because as the teacher discussed personal scripture study, she touched on the Sunday Meeting changes and how it came after the changes to the Ministering program and she touched on how we can use the new scripture study manuals in our personal scripture study, family scripture study, and in our Ministering.  So, now I have this plan to use the extra hour on the Sabbath to do personal scripture study that I can then share with my ministering sisters as well as for our Family Home Evening (which my family doesn't really have an "official Monday FHE", we have FHE every day).
    Anyway, I'm not quite there yet with being comfortable with these changes.  But I put my trust and faith in God that and my testimony that the restored gospel is true and the LDS Church is the church of Christ on earth.
    Hope this helps.
    P.S.  Regarding your question of personal study - who do you ask if you have a question - my answer to that is... you ask God.  I've been studying the same scriptures all my life (I'm middle aged), same pages, same stories, over and over... and there are still things I don't have complete understanding of yet.  I study and ponder on something and I read every trusted material I have on it (talks, lesson manuals etc.) and if it doesn't quite make sense I set it aside for later.  Scripture study takes a lifetime and it is personal.  No amount of "other people teaching you the meaning of the scriptures" will make it understandable to you.  It takes a personal revelation from the Holy Ghost.  So, if you think of scripture study as a lifetime endeavor instead of a "Class", then you'll have a better perspective of it and you won't feel like you have to understand everything already.
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    ctr2961 reacted to NeedleinA in Anger at Prophet and General Authority   
    Here we are. We can help supplement your Church family.
    Your church family may morph over time, but a church family and church involvement can still be found.
    I've moved about 30 times in my life, each ward being different. Change happens.
    Change can be hard... we adapt to it because we "love Christ" and this is his Church.
    Did Pres. Nelson make the changes because "he" wanted to OR was he and the Quorum of the 12 moved upon that the Savior is guiding "his" Church in this direction.
    Are you upset at Pres. Nelson OR are you upset he is following the Saviors guidance?
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    ctr2961 reacted to NeedleinA in Anger at Prophet and General Authority   
    President Nelson - Oct General Conference:
     
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    ctr2961 reacted to Jane_Doe in Anger at Prophet and General Authority   
    Reach out all you want-- here's a bunch of LDS folks here just for that purpose
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    ctr2961 reacted to The Folk Prophet in Anger at Prophet and General Authority   
    Not your testimony?
    I understand why you have consternation over the matter. But the reason you should or should not be active in the church is because you know it's true. If you don't, you need to find out. If you find out, then you know it's led by God, not by Pres. Nelson. And if it's led by God and you know it, then get on board.
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    ctr2961 reacted to zil in Anger at Prophet and General Authority   
    CTR, I understand, share, and empathize with a lot of what you're saying above, especially about your situation compared to Church ideals.
    Can you explain more about the bit I put in bold?  Were you heavily involved in scouting?  Pageants or similar local celebrations?  Are you simply referring to how the changes will effectively cut your time in Sunday School and Priesthood in half?  Or is there some calling I'm missing that will be cut with the 2-hour change next year?  I'm just looking to understand this better.
    Also, do I understand correctly that you expect the Elder's Quorum in your ward to use the 2nd and 4th Sundays to plan rather than to teach / discuss doctrine?
    Just trying to get a better understanding of these specifics.
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    ctr2961 reacted to zil in Anger at Prophet and General Authority   
    This is a load of crap.  Chalk it up to mortal weakness and ignore it.  Get up and bear testimony as often as you wish (on fast Sunday, not in the middle of someone's talk ).
    IMO, this case is so clear that I would say you should think the above - mortal weakness.  If this person repeated telling me such a thing, I would ask to see the specific scripture and/or handbook section from which this instruction comes - he won't be able to produce it.
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    ctr2961 reacted to zil in Anger at Prophet and General Authority   
    You know the Church will have a replacement for this, right, and that there's no reason you wouldn't be able to serve in that organization just as you have served in the scouting organization?
    This would be a perfect thing to work on with your ministering brothers - you could explain that you would like them to help you systematically work through various topics from the beginning, and thereby strengthen your understanding of doctrine, covenants, and ordinances. You could set up a regular schedule - whether it's monthly, every other week, every week, whatever you can work out.  If your ministering brothers aren't willing / able to do this, go to the EQP and ask him for different ones who are / can.  I would think ministering brothers would jump at this as a clear way for them to minister.
    Beyond that, I agree with @MormonGator.  Finding a personal interest in which to engage is a worthy goal and one that has the ability to lift one's spirits by an inordinate amount.  If it's one that enables you to interact with others who share the same hobby / interest, it will be all the better.  I know starting this can be extremely hard, especially breaking into an existing group of people.  Try anyway.  Commit to sticking it out even though there will be times when it feels like there's no point.