Hemisphere

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  1. 8 minutes ago, The Folk Prophet said:

    You seem stuck on the idea of insulting or not. I could care less about your views, and take no insult from some stranger on the internet's prejudice. What I'm taking about it your obvious hypocrisy. You are claiming negative activity by others while engaging in the same activity yourself. Do you understand that calling other's self-righteous is self-righteous? Do you understand that lumping together an entire community because there are some bad apples therein is the very definition of prejudice? You'd clearly understand, I would hope, were someone else to call all German's Nazis or the like.

    Some Utahns are jerks. Some Utahns confuse culture with faith. That doesn't mean all Utahn's do, or that it's even a Utah problem. People being jerks, losers, stupid, judgmental, evil, and otherwise imperfect is a people problem, not a Utah one. You defining it as a Utah problem only exposes a bias. That is clearly demonstrated even in the thread where you accused @Vort who is NOT Utahn, and neither are a great many you claim are currently ridiculing you.

    It strikes me the problem here is that you take it that anyone who disagrees with you must be self-righteous, must be mocking you, must be uncharitable, and must be interested in seeing you cast out of the church and shunned for all time.

    Well...other than the fact that that's a mighty high horse you're riding upon, it's factually mistaken. It's not a matter of you being insulting or not -- though you are (It's a bit of a funny excuse to call people something-tards and then claim the flaw is with them for taking offense) -- it's a matter of you being hypocritical and wrong.

    And what exactly led you to believe that I am a good person ? I never thought so, nor said so. I am sinner that indulges himself quite greatly so. I am the kind of person that has no issue sticking a knife in someones face if push comes to shove in the right kind of situation. if you had the opportunity to meet me, you would find that I am scum enough to pursue my own interest in a very self serving manner. I say what I like, I do what I like but I own up to it when it comes to payday. Everything we say or do has a price. 

    You might want to reevaluate your conception of members not being the least bit sainty. and an ultimate truth is that you take peoples meals, warm showers and creature comforts away, the tenets of the Lord become a distant memories over a time. 

    So while you engage into the obvious that I am a bad person- a state which I savor might I add. You are correct in the assumption that we are both random strangers to each other on the internet with little in common . A state I am very content with. 

     

    good day and good way. 

  2. 3 minutes ago, zil said:

    So you're in the habit of making statements you consider to be wrong?

    Beautiful.  Your insults are only insulting if the insulted choose to see your insults as insulting.  So you thought you were complimenting Utahns all along?  You never intended to insult them at all?  You love them like your brothers and sisters they are?

    If you're gonna do something, at least own it.  You were doing pretty good at that for a while.

    PS: Do you really think people are ganging up on you for a different opinion?  Seriously?  Folks around here are fairly tolerant of different opinions.  But you didn't express an opinion - you expressed hatred for over one million people, the vast majority of whom you've never even seen, let alone gotten to know (unless you wish to assert that you have actually met a significant percentage of the million+ Utahns).

    If you had brought up an issue (such as the fact that some Mormons cannot seem to separate their culture from their religion), it's likely lots of people would have agreed with you and a discussion might have been had.  That's not what you did though.  You lumped the every person in entire state (plus one) into one homogeneous entity and proceeded to declare it the worst thing ever.  The assertion is demonstrably false, and hyperbole to such an extreme as to be pitiful, and even the worst anti-Mormon on the planet would agree that it's ridiculous on the face of it.

    PPS: Apparently, we've only ganged up on you if you feel ganged up on.

    The Lamy Joy uses the same nib as the Safari, Al-Star, and some other models.  The Joy itself isn't going to add elegance - that would be the nib - unless you're talking about the look of the pen itself, in which case, eye of the beholder.

    Oh I mean what I said and say what I mean. dont you worry about that. I would see no issue to repeat myself if I desire to do so. and yes, I am being intolerant. what of it ? millions of lds excel in that regard in one way or another. I have met not all but then again a culture forms itself from somewhere and gets carried on by the ones that accidentally stumble out of the famous Utah bubble. 

     

    The Lamy joy has a broad tip, that could enably minor caligraphy. if the US version doesnt have it, then I reckon there must be a difference in model as the european one is meant to enhance cursive writing

  3. well in liu of my references to satirize your comment, I have to say I seriously underestimated your zeal and conviction. Why don´t you go ahead and cast the first stone, distant cousin ? because frankly, I am sorely tempted to indulge further into your comments. perhaps you should look into the mirror as we all must eventually and reflect. mhm =) people like you are a savory forum delicacy, the flavor of your comments just enriches the amusement level. 

     

  4. Just now, anatess2 said:

    I'm gonna spell it out for you in big letters.  PREJUDICE.

    When you put down an ENTIRE group of people as a collective applying individual experience to the group as a whole, that's called PREJUDICE.  Racism is prejudice against a certain race.  Sexism is prejudice against a certain sex.  Anti-semitism is prejudice against Jews.  Prejudice against Utah LDS is no better than any of these -isms.  It is un-Christian and you need to repent.

     

    oh goodness. you still live and have come to feed the troll. I wonder, does my disfavor of utah and idaho lds people elevate me to the level of stalin or hitler in your book ? perhaps you would like that I stand trial at Nuremberg ? and how do you propose that I repent. should I order a scourge from ebay, or clothe myself in coarse sacks and sprinkle ash on to my head ? should I perhaps wrap a penitent thigh thorn around my legs ? 

    do pray tell. not that I wasn´t willing to let this go. but go ahead and contribute to my amusement.  

  5. 7 minutes ago, LiterateParakeet said:

    I totally agree!  I adore LAMY. I have the Safari and the Al star. Great pens! 

    So you love pens too? What's your favorite LAMY?  

    hand writing is something I reserve for dear and important people. handwritten letters convey personal bonds and emotion and the time it takes speaks volumes in dedication and attention. 

     

    You should try the joy, it adds elegance if you are capable of cursive

  6. 1 minute ago, The Folk Prophet said:

    So -- call Utans Utahrds, then use their (and other's) indignation as proof that you're right.

    Well...that's settled then.

    I'm confused how anyone can fail to understand that name-calling and condescension towards an entire group of people is a bad idea. How is it that an effort even needs to be made to get anyone to see this point of view?

    Moreover, how is it that the one calling others something-tards get to claim being ridiculed?

    well, I never claimed to be right about anything. that for one. and for another, I am sure you could call me a name and it wouldnt phase me much. because ultimately, you can only elect to be insulted. I believe even someone of the quorum of the twelve said that as well. 

     

    good day and good way

  7. I am in posession of a Lamy Joy for well over 18 years now and it still writes. I also do like my lamy AL-star in silver. I have now moved away from disposable cartridges as I noticed that convertible cartridges and ink bottles last me longer and are sustainable for the environment

  8. On 10.9.2017 at 10:33 PM, ElMattio91 said:

    Hey everyone :) I'm new on this forum.

    I dont want to bore you guys so I'll just briefly tell you about myself.  Well my name is Matt, I'm 26 years old and I was baptised in the church in December of last year. I really want to serve a mission one day to share the gospel and the spirit with others. But the obvious problem is I feel like I came into the church too late. I know I can still technically serve a mission but realistically it probably won't happen due to commitments t home etc. My missionaries told me that the oldest you can be on your mission is 30, this means id have to be serving by 28 right? I really want to go somewhere and give others what my missionaries gave me: a new purpose. I want other people to have the happiness I have had since I joined the church. also, I want to marry within the church but I feel most LDS girls would want to marry a guy who has served a mission? Im sorry if all this didn't make much sense but it was just a couple of questions I had. thank you if you read all this haha :)

    have a great day

    Matt.

    hey matt, my heartfelt congratulations to your covenant with the Lord. 

    Going on a Mission is a serious commitment. Your volition and conviction should merit the intent. I hope you don´t seriously consider going on a mission with a two year labor / education gap just to validate yourself before some girl that will judge you for what you aren´t instead of what you are. 

    One does not have to go on a full-time mission to serve our Lord. There is plenty of opportunities waiting for you to do service for the greater glory of the Lord. 

    Anyone that does not accept you because you don´t have gone on to a "prestige" road trip should not be worth your efforts. A convert or otherwise level headed LDS girl surely would not make her affections dependent of you having served a mission or not. If you want to serve a mission just because you want to increase the odds of marrying a LDS girl, don´t go. It would be dishonest to yourself and most important to wards the Lord. The mission should not be some marriage requirement. A mission is to give yourself to the service of the Lord. So if you lack the conviction save yourself the money and the time. 

  9. 5 minutes ago, Vort said:

    You poor thing. Those meanies should just stop.

    I know, right ? wouldn´t that be something ? luckily, it is a forum  of exchanged ideas and opinion. but then again, one might say : It might take a while. someone is wrong on the internet. nothing to take too serious

     

    good day and good way

  10. 21 hours ago, Danny Phantom said:

    Hey all! Just trying to brainstorm some good first date ideas that would allow for a good amount of conversation while not allowing too many opportunities for awkward silences. Does anyone have any good suggestions?

    well, my advice to you would be : interested is interesting. It is always good to show interest in your opposite. 

    also, I would not take her or him to dinner at a place I haven´t eaten before. Check it out first, no worse date spoiler than a location that does not do or perform as it was expected. 

    also take it easy. a first date is not a proposal ;-) other than that be charming, polite and attentive. Be daring and delicate alike . =) 

  11. just look at you, three and a half people ganging up on me, because I have very different opinion and attitude about things and people. why don´t you bring some more, to draft an army of self righteous people to act against a disagreeing deviant ?

    The best part about this is, that people find themselves immediately unnerved when you say something that isn´t laden with quotes from the quorum of the twelve or the scripture or the liahona and certainly has nothing nice about it. 

    well go ahead and shower the deviants with more disfavor and ridicule, it certainly "helps" to get them to see your point of view. 

    why don´t you immediately petition for my excommunication ? wouldn´t that alleviate the mood ? 

     

    good day and good way, ladies and gentlemen 

  12. 6 minutes ago, The Folk Prophet said:

    I'm pretty sure a victim isn't defined as someone who stands up against cruelty. The plain fact is that you are being exceedingly unkind to Utahns.

     

    So what are you particularly standing up against ? My dislike or that I dispense with kindness?

  13. 1 minute ago, The Folk Prophet said:

    I'm pretty sure a victim isn't defined as someone who stands up against cruelty. The plain fact is that you are being exceedingly unkind to Utahns.

    There's a decided difference between being aware that people, in and out of Utah, are less than perfect, and the casting of caustic cruelty towards an entire community of people who, despite their imperfections, are, just as those in Europe, doing their best. You want to throw insults at us, go ahead. I don't deny you the right to be mean-spirited. But don't expect us not to call you on your hypocrisy as you castigate other Latter-day-Saints for being un-charitable as you fail miserably to offer them any sort of charity.

    Oh you want charity ? I can offer enough towards those who actually need it. Again, let me offer you some cotton candy. If you like I can extend that unkind attitude to idaho lds as well. I have seen what a conceited group of people can do and I don´t need to insult you, unless you feel so slighted that it hurt you so much, let me know and I will apologize and hear you out. but so far you take only ire that I express a massive dislike about notions that not every lds person has to appreciate. 

     

  14. 6 minutes ago, Vort said:

    Tell us more about those horrible, judgmental Utahrd cultural LDS.

    I don´t need to, find a mirror, go outside the door and see with eyes unclouded by conceit. Better yet, leave Utah and look around and then go to another country and see how they lord it over. 

    And yes, I have little sympathy displayed and I make no secret out of it, especially concerning the ill one can experience, with some pleasant exception I can attest to a negative perception based on experiences.  

     

    8 minutes ago, zil said:

    I respect your right to assume, presume, project, and use hyperbole in whatever extremes you wish.

    I respect my right to find irony in your comments about agency, individuals, divergence, and various virtues.

    If you wish for serious discussion, stop projecting the ills of a small subset of people onto the entirety of a larger subset.  You clearly have not had enough exposure to a wide enough variety of "Utah Mormons" to be able to speak about them with any degree of accuracy.  (PS: I'm not a "Utah Mormon", I'm a low-density Zion transplant who moved to a place with no fleas, almost no humidity, mountains, and likeable gun laws.)

    I have had all the exposure I could stomach along with some other people. PS: I am the convert weed that some inborn holier than thou art members tried remove from the garden, that still thrives through adversity 

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    1 minute ago, The Folk Prophet said:

    You clearly have no clue about the lifestyle being promoted by us Utahrds, and prove by your bitter cynicism, cruelty towards us, and disrespect, that you hold nothing on us. Holier-than-thou much?

    I know enough, to have received the Utah holier than thou. The altercations couldn´t have been farther removed from charity and brotherhood. 

  16. dear estowife, 

    sometimes people happen not to function how we would like them to be. you have my sympathies for your failing relationship and I know what it is like to live with a partner that is incorrigible. However, do you really think that the price of your peace should be tied to conveniences ? If the house is already and indicator that you live beyond your means, it would be probably best to consider to free yourself of a burden of a mortgage to start over fresh. A divorce is never easy and the hardest on children. However it will affect your children to see their parents being miserable day in and day out. Also from a practical point of view, when a divorce commences it is bound to include a lot of inconveniences along with finding a place and the means to provide for yourself. Surely not as cozy as you had it, but it means you can mend bridges, build you new ones and perhaps do things you always wanted to do to empower yourself and achieve contentment. Sometimes we need to bite the bullet and move on. But hardships ultimately yield great bounties. Do not be disheartened to take the narrow and stony path. Sometimes it is necessary to do that in order to shake of the shackles of complacency and appreciate what you have and what you are going to obtain through your own hands hard work. It may not be answer you are looking for but, you have to make a choice between perpetual misery or salvaging your life to restore a good foundation for rebuilding. Brace yourself, in any case it won´t be easy.

  17. 29 minutes ago, zil said:

    Everyone excludes no one.  Therefore, you are a part of the set referred to as "everyone".  Further, the people are also part of the set known as "everyone" (they might be the entire set, hard to say since your use is ambiguous).  Therefore, you and people and the remainder of everyone want to make people, believe something which your assertion implies everyone (including people) already believes.

    Your assertion seems to have a logic flaw.

    As a side note, I have yet to observe this tendency you ascribe to everyone in anyone.  I can therefore only assume that you have encountered someone and are ascribing their desires to everyone, by which you actually mean an undefined subset of everyone.

    PS: @anatess2 is right, I haven't had this much fun since the "nothing cannot exist" discussion began.  (If you like, I can repeat its better points - it's sort of the inverse of everyone.)

    Well then, let me be more precise for the sake of your desire. Everyone in the church that shares faith has a specific idea how things are supposed to be. However, the beauty of agency also means that people, individuals, groups can diverge, which is just wonderful. In terms and faith and opinions it is even helpful to make it work in order to outline differences. And as far as the context of my comment is concerned by everyone I mean  in particular "Utahrds" and people zealously promoting a "mormon" culture and lifestyle. 

    There is a distinct difference in cultural lds and the faithful lds. My personal belief, is that these two exclude each other mutually and I like to think I belong to the latter. 

    As far as your nice quip and ex-curse in wise ***ery. You know nothing about me, neither do I know anything about you. But I can tell you that my life has been filled with a sufficient amount of encounters where I know that selling beverages not included in your palate are insignificant, compared to what goes on outside your little bubble in Utah you live in. 

    Utah is not the Mekkah of the Mormon believe. Neither is the lifestyle being promoted there essential to exercising faith and charity. Quite the contrary, it is my personal opinion that is quite detracting. So while you have yourself cheered for that quip, I will attempt to appreciate your quip, I most assuredly will find something worthwhile to do.

  18. 17 minutes ago, anatess2 said:

    Chill out, dude!  People can talk about soda and @Jane_Doe's daughter's anus without having to worry about the poor starving Filipinos.  It doesn't mean they don't care about starving Filipinos.  It simply means they have opinions on everything and they have no problem expressing it. 

    And no, there's nothing in the WOW that tells you you can't eat meat outside of winter.  Especially since in Florida, there's only hurricane season and summer.

    What makes you think I was referring to Filipinos ? I hope you aren´t hogging the victim award because there is more poor people outside in the world and your collection of islands. And why should I chill ? Everyone wants to make people believe that the "cultural" center of faith revolves around Utah, were trivial things high jack the significant matters. Just to make this clear, I happen to share faith, but I do not partake in collective sheeping around and I certainly don´t think that everyone is my brother or sister in faith. Some I actually deem distant relatives, that you have to see every five year on some reunion