The Folk Prophet

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    The Folk Prophet reacted to Just_A_Guy in Irreversible Damage   
    I agree with much of what you say, but let me push back a smidge on this part:
    Why?
    Have we not just seen the entire church suspend its meetings for something like a year due to a highly infectious physical disease whose childhood mortality rate was nevertheless lower than .01%?  And even now, on the back side of the pandemic underlying that decision, do we not sympathize with and even applaud the hyper-careful folk who proclaim that their peculiar circumstances mean that they still must stay away?
    A big part of the gay rights argument used to be “it’s not the flu; you can’t catch it from others”  But with what Shrier calls “rapid-onset gender dysphoria”—apparently, you can catch it.  Or at least, teenagers (especially girls) can.  Over 65% of teens who announced rapid-onset transgenderism had increased their social media use and online time in the immediate run-up to coming out.  Almost 70% belonged to a peer group in which at least one friend had already come out.  In 60% of cases coming out resulted in a popularity boost for the child.  Nearly 70% of children who experience childhood gender dysphoria, and do not receive affirmation therapy or socially transition, eventually grow out of it.
    If what Shrier says is true, and many kids that actually don’t have clinical gender dysphoria are nevertheless being pressured to declare themselves “transgender” and engage in life-changing  hormone treatments and surgeries, and if (as some participants here have suggested) it turns out that a significant part of this pressure has been happening at church—
    —What then?
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from Carborendum in Irreversible Damage   
    It is the opposite of dismissive.
    But I do feel moderately dismissive of your (rather rude) implication that it's dismissive. So....
    I don't think you and I are going to agree on the heart of the problem.
     
    You're being rude. So I'm done.
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from Carborendum in Irreversible Damage   
    Maybe it would be more accurate to say we can't "fully" protect children from it. But even then, that isn't really true to what I meant either. Kids simply seeing a man wearing a dress isn't necessarily damaging in and of itself if the proper responses, teachings and trainings are being done consistently. What I mean when I say we have to protect our children is, in part, that we need to be talking about this with them. Teaching them of the dangers. Teaching them of the corruption. Teaching them of the evil ideologies behind it all. Of course that teaching needs to include Christlike love, humility, patience, longsuffering, kindness, etc.

    It also means being exceedingly careful with kids and social media, serious consideration of home schooling, monitoring of other entertainment (#cancelDisney), etc. In particular it means affirming young girls of the awesomeness of their being female.
    I'm seriously not following why you bolded "The insanity is beyond. Beyond beyond." There's nothing contrary to what the church, scriptures, prophesy, or anything teaches in that comment. The insanity is beyond.
    Your understanding of this is a bit off to me.
    The church recognizes that biological sex is biological. But it also declares, unapologetically, that gender is eternal. The fact that it recognizes that some people 'identify' as a different gender is not contrary to @Carborendum's comments at all.
    I do not follow how your response is even related to what @scottyg said.
    I will validate valid things.
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in Irreversible Damage   
    Would you care to specify which statements are inconsistent with what the Church is teaching? I mean other than the obvious "ward shopping", which is a single statement by a single individual.
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from JohnsonJones in Stacey Harkey comes out   
    God doesn't bring anyone into the fold. He invites all to follow and obey and they either come to Him or they do not, based on their own free will and choice.
    Edit: I know "bring" is a subjective idea, but the point remains... it is upon our agency.
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    The Folk Prophet reacted to Carborendum in Stacey Harkey comes out   
    I see the Samuel principle differently than others.  It almost sounds like the Lord "gave permission" to do something that was wrong.  I don't buy that.  It is more along the lines of recognizing His gift of agency:
    In both cases, they didn't even follow the lesser rules.  So, I believe when people follow this idea of to same sex dating:
    Is it too big a leap to believe that when trying to abide by these lesser rules that they will fail miserably anyway?
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from mordorbund in Musicals   
    So apparently we're both mistaken here.
    In the original show the Rumble ends the first Act. The 2nd Act then opens with I Feel Pretty. It is true that Officer Krumpke is in the 2nd Act, and in the 1961 move it was moved before the Rumble, but just as in the new movie, I Feel Pretty followed the Rumble. However, it was an Act change, with intermission between, which works okay.
    Interestingly enough, Somewhere was also a solo sung by a character named Consuelo with a Company dance behind it.
    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Side_Story
    Act 1[edit]
    "Prologue" – Orchestra, danced by Jets & Sharks "Jet Song" – Riff & Jets "Something's Coming" – Tony "The Dance at the Gym" – Orchestra, danced by Jets & Sharks "Maria" – Tony "Tonight" – Tony & Maria "America" – Anita, Rosalia & Shark Girls "Cool" – Riff & Jets "One Hand, One Heart" – Tony & Maria "Tonight (Quintet & Chorus)" – Riff, Jets, Bernardo, Sharks, Anita, Tony & Maria "The Rumble" – Orchestra, danced by Riff, Bernardo, Sharks & Jets Act 2[edit]
    "I Feel Pretty" – Maria, Rosalia, Teresita & Francisca[33] "Somewhere" – Consuelo, danced by Company "Procession and Nightmare" – Tony, Maria & Ensemble "Gee, Officer Krupke" – Action, Snowboy & Jets "A Boy Like That / I Have a Love" – Anita & Maria "Finale" – Tony, Maria & Company  
    I guess the point being that what Stephen Spielberg did is apparently actually more in line with the original show.
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from scottyg in Stacey Harkey comes out   
    God doesn't bring anyone into the fold. He invites all to follow and obey and they either come to Him or they do not, based on their own free will and choice.
    Edit: I know "bring" is a subjective idea, but the point remains... it is upon our agency.
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    The Folk Prophet reacted to Carborendum in Disinformation Governance Board   
    Counter?  I think you may have misinterpreted my intent.
    I was adding to what was written.
    Based on the short posts, there was a lot missing.  So for the benefit of anyone reading, I filled in the blanks.
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from LDSGator in Musicals   
    Sure. But with reservations, mostly based on the apparent ignorance of the younger generations on so many things. 
    Is it iconic for musicals? Undoubtedly. Is it iconic for the broader culture? Yes.... but not like Star Wars, The Beatles, Beethoven or Superman. 
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from MrShorty in Stacey Harkey comes out   
    Maybe you should consider not relying on anecdots from the "arm of flesh" for your understanding of truth.
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from MrShorty in Stacey Harkey comes out   
    I'm not sure how you expect to have an honest discussion on something when your thesis is so blatantly dishonest. Perhaps you aren't dishonest intentionally. Maybe you've simply allowed yourself to be duped by other's dishonesty. But the point remains. This discussion cannot move forward openly and honestly as long as it's corrupted by straight up falsehoods.
    At the least you're buying into the dishonest standard of redefining terms that progressive types seem to so often engage in.
    If you aren't bought into the common understanding that dating is defined by romanticism and the ultimate objective of sex then you're going to talk right past every reasonable person on the matter. 
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from MrShorty in Stacey Harkey comes out   
    I'll just leave this here for consideration. 
    “Happiness is the object and design of our existence; and will be the end thereof, if we pursue the path that leads to it; and this path is virtue, uprightness, faithfulness, holiness, and keeping all the commandments of God.” - Joseph Smith
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from MrShorty in Stacey Harkey comes out   
    Pardon my confusion, but are you suggesting God purposefully and explicitly invited Thomas Kane or Mother Theresa to NOT come unto Him and partake of his gospel? Are you suggesting that if Thomas Kane or Mother Theresa had exercised their agency to join His church that God's work would have been hindered?
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from MrShorty in Stacey Harkey comes out   
    The idea that concerns me is your proposal that God leads people away from His church in order to lead them back to Him in the future.
    Whereas God can and does work with our weaknesses to turn them to strengths, he doesn't, that I've ever learned or heard, inspire us to be weak, foolish, sinful, lazy, carnal, devilish, or anything other than Godly, humble, and righteous.
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from person0 in Stacey Harkey comes out   
    I'll just leave this here for consideration. 
    “Happiness is the object and design of our existence; and will be the end thereof, if we pursue the path that leads to it; and this path is virtue, uprightness, faithfulness, holiness, and keeping all the commandments of God.” - Joseph Smith
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from Vort in Stacey Harkey comes out   
    The idea that concerns me is your proposal that God leads people away from His church in order to lead them back to Him in the future.
    Whereas God can and does work with our weaknesses to turn them to strengths, he doesn't, that I've ever learned or heard, inspire us to be weak, foolish, sinful, lazy, carnal, devilish, or anything other than Godly, humble, and righteous.
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in Stacey Harkey comes out   
    God doesn't bring anyone into the fold. He invites all to follow and obey and they either come to Him or they do not, based on their own free will and choice.
    Edit: I know "bring" is a subjective idea, but the point remains... it is upon our agency.
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    The Folk Prophet reacted to Anddenex in Stacey Harkey comes out   
    This line of thinking is so very odd for any bishop to suggest. Dating men is a homosexual act. He isn't just going out with friends.
    I wonder if his bishop would say to a married man the same thing if he came to him saying, "I love my wife, but I'm going to start dating other women. It isn't adultery, as I'm just dating other women I'm attracted to."
    I still don't understand how easily some people seek to split hairs when it comes to a decision with homosexuality. It is as clear as the day light is from the dark night. It is as clear as a married man deciding to date other women -- although technically not adultery. The debate is there due to people listing to obey the wrong spirit.
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from Vort in Stacey Harkey comes out   
    Since these two things are synonymous I'm having difficulty parsing out your thought here. 
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from Vort in Stacey Harkey comes out   
    God doesn't bring anyone into the fold. He invites all to follow and obey and they either come to Him or they do not, based on their own free will and choice.
    Edit: I know "bring" is a subjective idea, but the point remains... it is upon our agency.
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in Irreversible Damage   
    This makes it a much bigger deal, of course. 'Exacerbated' is, perhaps, not strong enough a word.
    Edit: I might add also, that the social media "trendiness/craze" of it is false. Meaning....it feels like the whole world has gone crazy. But they haven't. It's just that anyone who isn't crazy is censored on social media. It's a serious part of the problem. (Which is why I brought up Elon Musk earlier.)
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from Carborendum in Stacey Harkey comes out   
    God doesn't bring anyone into the fold. He invites all to follow and obey and they either come to Him or they do not, based on their own free will and choice.
    Edit: I know "bring" is a subjective idea, but the point remains... it is upon our agency.
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from MrShorty in Stacey Harkey comes out   
    God doesn't bring anyone into the fold. He invites all to follow and obey and they either come to Him or they do not, based on their own free will and choice.
    Edit: I know "bring" is a subjective idea, but the point remains... it is upon our agency.
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from MrShorty in Stacey Harkey comes out   
    Since these two things are synonymous I'm having difficulty parsing out your thought here.