The Folk Prophet

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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from mordorbund in Angel Studios: The Shift   
    On it.
     
     
     
     

     
     
     
     
    (j/k of course)
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    The Folk Prophet reacted to Traveler in Angel Studios: The Shift   
    Just a bit of a side note.  I spent some time consulting with some Hollywood types.  A number of weeks on set.  Some in this industry are LDS and perhaps otherwise reasonable.  I know that BYU has a fine arts center and there is a speech and drama major.  I personally think it would be better labeled screech and trauma.  If one is to boycott those in such fields based on their poor (even irrational) treatment of others no one would ever go to any movie and unlikely attend any play, concert or any creative art display.
    My father that was an artist that eventually would not publicly display his art and there seemed to be more people and places that he refused to sale anything to or talk to about art.  A personal prejudice of mine is that those that make art their lifelong profession – generally end up quiet messed up.  Those, like my father, that make their living one way and rely on art for art sake and as a personal release – seem to have a better chance to retain their humanity.
     
    The Traveler
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from Traveler in Angel Studios: The Shift   
    Gotchya.
    The following is in no way meant to convince you of anything. Just sharing:
    I remember when Evita came out that my sister refused to see it because Madonna was in it. I have a friend who refuses to see anything with certain left-leaning actors. Etc.
    I can sort of understand this. It can be difficult to separate the personal jerk-faced-ness of the individual out enough to be able to enjoy their playing a role. But, honestly, with me it depends on how well they can act. If their personality bothers me and then that personality bleeds into their acting...yeah.
    But I really don't get my friends, "I won't watch that because so-n-so is a lefty."
    Um.... it's Hollywood. It's almost ALL lefties.
    Which, okay... don't partake of Hollywood. I could get behind that and respect it. It's when he watches movies with other actors who are just as evil and lefty, but slightly less outspoken maybe, that I start thinking there's some inconsistency problems and bias going on there.
    For the most part, I've been able to separate out that personal lives of the actors from the characters they play. If the character is honorable, then that usually works for me.
    As for Tom Cruise, I actually respect his stances. Note that I do not mean I agree with them. But to stand for a position (no mind altering drugs) and hold true to it against the hate of the world....
    I mean if someone was taking Marijuana to deal with something a lot of us (including myself) would probably say that's a bad idea. If the world (including the medical community) decided alcohol was the proper way to treat some ailment we would definitely consider it a mistake.
    Tom did sincerely apologize to Brooke Shields (according to her) for bringing her into it they way he did. I think he recognized that his "how" was mistaken. But he's remained true to his position on drugs none-the-less. And though I do disagree with him on it, I respect his conviction.
    That being said (and, as I said, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I respect your view on the matter), none of that plays into my enjoyment or not of Tom Cruise's movies. He's never (that I know of) preached against post-partem drugs in his roles. And if he did, I would not be interested in that movie.
    Anyhow. Just my thoughts. No arguments or contention intended whatsoever.  
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from zil2 in Angel Studios: The Shift   
    On it.
     
     
     
     

     
     
     
     
    (j/k of course)
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from NeuroTypical in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    If you're referring to my post...
    I have never said, never would say, or believe it to be morally right in any regard to claim "suffering" because of art. And people who do complain about such.... grow up and get a real job...and a haircut. And get off my lawn.
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    The Folk Prophet reacted to Carborendum in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    This song was written by Michael McLean.
    I have no idea what his latest work has been.  And I am unaware of any recent controversy or whatever.  But I really liked that song he wrote.
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from zil2 in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    If you're referring to my post...
    I have never said, never would say, or believe it to be morally right in any regard to claim "suffering" because of art. And people who do complain about such.... grow up and get a real job...and a haircut. And get off my lawn.
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from LDSGator in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    @LDSGator, here's another example of trying to make it (specifically in the "Mormon" world).
    We wrote and produced a musical based on the Children of the Promise books by Dean Hughes. (This is actually my latest completed work, and I'm quite proud of a lot of it). We got permission from Deseret Book to write and perform it. We even got Dean Hughes to attend the performance. And his feedback was quite positive. (Though that could have been mere politeness).
    But....we don't own the copyright. And Deseret Book, despite giving us the permission to perform, did not give us perpetual stage or performance rights. That means.... I can't even upload the stuff to youtube or spotify. It's work I did that is dead until Deseret Book says otherwise.
    Although we invited the Deseret Book folk to come see it as well, they didn't. And although we submitted it to them afterwards (video, recordings, etc), it seems apparent (from their replies) that they didn't even bother reviewing the materials. They just weren't interested. It didn't fit their current trend-chasing goals. So it's dead for now.
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from LDSGator in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    I'm well aware. The idea that success can be derived from a formula isn't a correct though*. It might work, but if it does, it's as much luck of the draw as is writing something entirely original.
    *unless that formula is simply quality. Edit: And even then, quality is not a formula for success. So I take it back.
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from LDSGator in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    It's easy! Just be the Osmonds, right!?
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from NeuroTypical in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    I didn't even come across all that and....yeah. That's about exactly how I expect things would be.
    On another note re the movie trailer. What on earth is up with Zane's accent?
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from NeuroTypical in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    Argh...just the first 10 seconds and I'm disgusted!
     
    Edit: Okay I watched it all. And.... I'm still disgusted. But.... there are some interesting points he made. Particularly, I have never understood the Church's support for LoveLoud. And similar matters. Some of his points are ridiculous though. The church's ads in The Book of Mormon musical wasn't support for or endorsement of the musical.

    I don't think the Church should support his movie. He's being a whiney baby man about that. And complaining about the church publicly, particularly from a position like his, is just terrible. But I do understand how he would feel frustrated at the some of the things he points out.
     
    It is an interesting thing to consider. I was telling @LDSGator in a pm earlier how I used to write exclusively church related stuff for my musicals. I always struggled a bit with that on the commercial balance side of things. One side of me thinks that profiting off of "spiritual" things in any way feels an awful lot like Priestcraft. But the other side of me thinks what better way to profit than by also sharing spiritual messages that might benefit the world. I'm still torn on the idea. I really dislike a lot of "spiritual" artists like Michael McLean and the like because it feels so much like they're selling spirituality. It bugs me. And yet...I have had some of my greatest spiritual moments in life with music from Kenneth Cope. So I'm so very torn on the matter.
    Either way, the "open letter to the church" video is a big thumbs down from me.
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    Well, I suspect he's sincere. Just... I dunno. Likely deluded, IMHO. I could be wrong. I just don't think this movie was his purpose and why he was saved, etc. 
    You know I'm a musician and write musical theater. I have severe delusions of grandeur and ambition. And yet I have never once allowed myself to think it's my "purpose" or some sort of holy calling. 
    If God uses me that way then that's His purview. But as soon as I start getting all high and mighty about it like I've been ordained to that end.... That just feels off.
    My purpose is to be a father, a husband, a humble servant in the church, and to try to be like my Savior as much as possible, repenting when failing. 
    Anything else is all fine and dandy. My job. My recreation. My dreams and ambitions.  But they are NOT my purpose.
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    The Folk Prophet reacted to LDSGator in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    I fall squarely in this category. 

    I’ve been kicking around our conversation a bit as well. I feel sorry for LDS artists of all types. Even in Utah, I’m not sure there are enough LDS who are willing to pay money for your comic book, music, or movie. Are there some? Absolutely, but in order to make a living off it you have to appeal to a mass audience. 
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from LDSGator in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    Argh...just the first 10 seconds and I'm disgusted!
     
    Edit: Okay I watched it all. And.... I'm still disgusted. But.... there are some interesting points he made. Particularly, I have never understood the Church's support for LoveLoud. And similar matters. Some of his points are ridiculous though. The church's ads in The Book of Mormon musical wasn't support for or endorsement of the musical.

    I don't think the Church should support his movie. He's being a whiney baby man about that. And complaining about the church publicly, particularly from a position like his, is just terrible. But I do understand how he would feel frustrated at the some of the things he points out.
     
    It is an interesting thing to consider. I was telling @LDSGator in a pm earlier how I used to write exclusively church related stuff for my musicals. I always struggled a bit with that on the commercial balance side of things. One side of me thinks that profiting off of "spiritual" things in any way feels an awful lot like Priestcraft. But the other side of me thinks what better way to profit than by also sharing spiritual messages that might benefit the world. I'm still torn on the idea. I really dislike a lot of "spiritual" artists like Michael McLean and the like because it feels so much like they're selling spirituality. It bugs me. And yet...I have had some of my greatest spiritual moments in life with music from Kenneth Cope. So I'm so very torn on the matter.
    Either way, the "open letter to the church" video is a big thumbs down from me.
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    The Folk Prophet reacted to NeuroTypical in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    Ok, I watched the director comments, and I also watched his 14 minute long "open letter to the church" video, which basically gripes and complains and accuses our church of not doing right by his video.  Whining about how the church has supported other endeavors but not his.  Grousing about Stake Lagoon days and how the church has celebrities come sing with the Tabernacle Choir, but they refuse to endorse his movie.  He's so shocked.  Does the church not care?  Boo-hoo-hoo.  
    I'm officially not a fan.  Don't care about his stupid movie.  And I bet ten bucks he'll probably have left the church and be one of it's critics within 5 years.
     
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from LDSGator in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    Well, I suspect he's sincere. Just... I dunno. Likely deluded, IMHO. I could be wrong. I just don't think this movie was his purpose and why he was saved, etc. 
    You know I'm a musician and write musical theater. I have severe delusions of grandeur and ambition. And yet I have never once allowed myself to think it's my "purpose" or some sort of holy calling. 
    If God uses me that way then that's His purview. But as soon as I start getting all high and mighty about it like I've been ordained to that end.... That just feels off.
    My purpose is to be a father, a husband, a humble servant in the church, and to try to be like my Savior as much as possible, repenting when failing. 
    Anything else is all fine and dandy. My job. My recreation. My dreams and ambitions.  But they are NOT my purpose.
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from Still_Small_Voice in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    Sorry. I wasn't suggesting Secondhand Lions was and Angel Studios movie. I can see how that came across though. I was just using another example of a studio that has made movies that aren't crude but are also quality entertainment.
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from Still_Small_Voice in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    I think I'll stop complaining when the Savior returns. 
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from JohnsonJones in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    I think I'll stop complaining when the Savior returns. 
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from Carborendum in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    Sorry. I wasn't suggesting Secondhand Lions was and Angel Studios movie. I can see how that came across though. I was just using another example of a studio that has made movies that aren't crude but are also quality entertainment.
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    The Folk Prophet reacted to Carborendum in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    Yes, it can be difficult.
    I had thought Secondhand Lions was just a small time film that didn't do all that well at the box office.  But our eccentric family just happened to love in.
    Then I started noticing how many people have come to our home shouting praises over this film.  I've stopped counting.  
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from LDSGator in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    Is it also ironic that that tends to be how I feel about your complaining about conservatives complaining.
    "There goes LDSGator again, complaining about conservatives, thinking he's all holier than them as he does exactly the same thing."
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    The Folk Prophet reacted to LDSGator in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    Ironically, you piously complain about not liking juvenile and gross humor and then use this as a metaphor.  That’s awesome. Like legit, 5 star “I have to screen shot this and show friends” awesome. I was already having a wonderful day and you made it ten times better. 
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    The Folk Prophet got a reaction from zil2 in Lady Ballers Trailer   
    I think I'll stop complaining when the Savior returns.