Bananikka
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Oh ok then I misunderstood. Looks like I have a lot to learn!
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I just looked up united order.. It doesn't look like that's something we're doing now. Why do you say that? Thanks for your thoughts! :)
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But rather bartering and trading Amungst ourselves. (Our services, crops, physical goods...)
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Anne, what an awesome coincedende!!
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I always assumed this was so but I've neve seen it in scripture. Thanks guys!
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My husband would like to find out who he did baptisms for if at all possible. Apparently the night after we went he dreamt that a large group of soldiers thanked him. It was a neat experience for him, one he realizes may have been a neat coincidence, but he'd love to find out if possible, if it could have been a real thank you from his brothers. Thanks guys!
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I think therein lies the danger of closely associating scripture with science.
Maybe some things from the Bible are not meant to be taken literally OR at least not literally as *sole* source. Oftentimes what can be explained by science is complemented by scripture -- but not always. It usually takes multiple sources to explain complex concepts (just look at the additions of scripture in Mormonism, with the Book of Mormon and D&C -- not until you get all of them do you get the fullness of the Gospel -- science works in the same way, multiple sources).
I personally follow the evolutionary line of thinking for these things.
And YES can I please reiterate that it's Asian, not oriental. I'm actually surprised more people didn't correct that.
With all due respect, I did not mean to say Asian at all. People are Asian because they come from Asia. That wasn't what I was asking. And maybe more people didn't jump to try to correct me because trying to help me felt more important than trying to correct me.
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We've been taught how Cain and Hams seed were darkened. And laman and Lemuel's as well. But I have Always been baffled as to how the oriental race began. I mean I realize we are all different, but it seems they are so distinct that perhaps something happened at one time to make another separation between the people? Sort of like when the languages were confounded at the Tower of Babel or when the lands were separated after Noah (I think that's right...). He wanted the children to scatter and multiply.. Anyway, I've always been curious about this.. Could the scripture we haven't been given yet reveal this? Any ideas? Thanks for listening guys! :)
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We had Elder D Todd Christofferson speaking at our Stake Conf a few weeks back.
Due to age and physical problems DW and I arrived 1.5 hours ahead of time to get a padded seat rather than the folding chairs in the overflow (and good thing we did as the chapel was nearly full already). People were saving seats not by sending someone there to sit and save, but they had come the night before and placed their scriptures and jackets on the pews.
We picked the (empty) pew we wanted and moved all the jackets and scriptures down to one end, and then sat in the middle of the pew so people wouldn't have to climb over us. About 5 minutes before the scheduled start time, after all the speakers were already on the stand, a couple of large families came in walked to the pew and found it full of people, they grabbed their stuff and walked off in a huff. Not sure if they sat on the folding chairs or left.
Arriving early we (and the others that had arrived early)had some time to fellowship others, and listen to the choir practicing and then the prelude music inviting the Spirit, preparing ourselves to hear an Apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ speak to us.
Just an aside, I know the people who tried saving the seats that way, they are in our Stake in a different Ward, there were no older or infirm people in their group, apparently they just didn't want to get up early or to sit in the chapel that long.
Thanks for sharing that
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I was raised to believe we would all be called to Utah in the last days, though I'm not sure if it is real doctrine. Also, I've been told we would have a Mormon president eventually. Is this rumor urban legend or another piece of doctrine? Thanks guys!s
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Like a public parade is an exclusive affair. (Sigh) I understand in society things will happen that we don't like. I never said a word about this o anyone but my family until I heard it was going in in church as well. Anyway, thanks for the responses guys, I'm new here and am sorry my first post is a complaint!!
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Oh, and I forgot to mention, yes the tarps and lawn chairs are set up for the parades several days early. How do we even stand a chance to ever attend? It's a joke. And it makes the community look thoughtless and selfish. Sorry to be harsh! But it feels that way to me.
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Ps, we're a family of 8 too
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I understand nobody is perfect and I certainly am not. I guess I'm confused as the why nobody sees how this comes across to other people. I don't think it's the message we want to send to people who are hoping to come and hear our Words. And to the person who said they left when hey saw nowhere to sit, I've done that myself. I felt awful. I felt unwanted and like an outsider. I went home and it took a lot to fight the urge to become bitter about it. . I do realize I could have spoken up about it and tried to be positive, but instead I let it get me down. I'm human too!
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I also agree tht if one member of the family is present then it feels much more fair. I was thinking I'd have a lot of people mad at me for aski g this so I'm very relieved!
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To ensure that you're able to sit together :)
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One more note, this note was done on a cel phone so please forgive my many typos.
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I grew up in the mission field, where "seat saving", whether it be for community parades or church, are unheard of. (And I'm very grateful). I spent many years living in Utah and being LDS myself I did enjoy being close to the church and its members. But one thing I will nber get used to (and my family members there agree) is the need that people feel there to "save seats".
Am I the only one who feels its only fair that whoever uses his or her elbow grease to get up, get showered, ready their children and make their way there has the right to sit where he or she would like to sit? Why do we see hundreds of blankets, lawnchairs jackets and towels trying to keep the people who've made an effort to arrive in time from finding a place? This practice is not friendly to say the least. My entire family has refused to go to any local parade for years because of this. This is cause to grumble, sigh, and feel that people are taking unfair advantage of their neighbors. (Truth be told there is nothing stopping anybody to pick up the tarps and blankets put them to the side and make themselves comfy there)
But it gets worse. I just asked my family who are still living in Utah whether or not hey we're going to attend Church today. No, I was told, we never go to stake conference any more because the people has started to go 4 hours early to save seats. ?!?!??
My older father who suffers chronic pain and given up attending stake conferences now because of this thoughtless competitive tradition. Could somebody please explain to me how this is seen as fair and acceptable in a land that I believe holds true and kind Christian people?
This behavior is unheard of elsewhere. And makes people feel excluded and unwelcome. We shouldn't be competing so desperately for seats anywhere let alone in our houses of worship that we arrive hours early to take an unfair advantage by spreading out jackets nd blankets, tking thoughtless advantage of the forgiveness and resignation of others who they're confident will put up with it, become discouraged and leave.
Please Utah, rethink this competitive practice. It is so hurtful to people around you. Do you not care how others feel when they make an effort to make it on time and even early, only to find a blanket spread across a pew while the pew saving family is relaxed T home taking their time with the peace of mind that they will have a pew regardless of how fair it will be to their brothers nd sisters?
Please somebody restore my faith in my fellow members of this church. I am so disappointed. I was aT a loss today as to how to encourage my family In Utah.
Somebody please explain seat saving in church?
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Doing this sort of thing. (As far as I'm concerned). :)