gem2477

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  1. No, the temple is private property. They could put anyone in jail for trespassing if they found that they forged a recommend or something like that.
  2. That's you, though. That's okay if that is all you wanted, but I know of women who were disappointed and the cattle herding of brides and lack of personal attention they got at their wedding in the temple and wished for a big wedding.
  3. LOL okay. Yes, I think be more inclusive of others would be the right direction. So sue me. Not thinking that show me all I need to know about you.....
  4. Like I said, I don't think that way as an adult. I know you won't die. But as a YM that story seemed ominous and stuck with me. Now, I think the story is more like about doing thing the way the leaders wish.
  5. I was just opening the discussion up. I hope it does change. BOTH the celebration / fashion show / party and the ordinance are important. That is my entire point.
  6. 1- Then why not standardize it for all the world? 2- I was just making the point that if couples get married in the church, non members who might not otherwise ever go in our church will be exposed to it. Who knows? Maybe they will want to know more? 3- Yes we would be. Allowing parents to see their children marry would seem very progressive, and would be kinder. 4- No it is not public at all. It is held on private property and the owner of said property only allows certain people. That isn't "public"> 5- I remember that story - of course, I had to attend pretty much every Sunday as a kid, and it got to the point that I pretty well knew all the lessons after hearing them year after year. As a 12 year old impressionable girl, this story stood with me. I thought that a reason not to wait is because something bad might happen then you wouldn't be able to erase the mistake. An adult can see it for what it is, but a kid in YW? not so much.
  7. I am not advocating missionary moments, but it may give exposure to the church to the non mormon who is invited.
  8. I hardly missed a lesson in YW. It got to the point that I had them nearly memorized. As an impressionable kid, I took this lesson at face value - that bad things may happen if I didn't do things the prescribed way...the only way....the way someone who doesn't know me or my situation tells me to. This type of story is harmful because it scares and indocternates.
  9. Okay I will answer the question - head on. They may not be stupid or clueless, but we aren't either. We can, and are able to see the larger picture as well. Why can't members of the church actually think for themselves?The bretheren aren't inspired every single waking minute of their lives. They are human, and have made mistakes. Remember Uchdorf's talk about that last general conference? Sometimes the "speaking as man" and the "inspiration from the spirit" part gets muddy in the church. There has been stories in which there were policies that were put into place that just didn't work and needed change. I don't see basic, everyday policies that are put into place as inspired. They are just things that make the church function.
  10. estradling 75- I was just saying that it would be beneficial for the church to make these changes - why can't we talk about things that would help the church out? Do we not have a say in anything? We are members, you know. Making observations that are negative in the hopes of change is not wrong. It has nothing to do with me - 95% of those who I would want at my wedding are temple worthy and could come see me. My brothers and sisters are already married, and I was too young to go anyway, so that point is mute.
  11. This is simple policy, not doctrine. I say the way it can be changed is for more and more couples to chose to wait a year, which will make it more meaningful if you have been together for a period of time. Do wedding they way you want, not the way someone tells you to. Make the two things seperate.
  12. I think the policy that makes couples who get married civily wait a year to get sealed - and the marriage and sealing should be seperated. Here's why: 1- Countries whose law says that a civil ceremony must occur before any religious ceremony already allow this - why not in North America? 2- It would be a great missionary tool to get non members in to the chapels. 3- It would be good PR and make the church look like it's moving in the right direction 4- Joseph Smith said “All marriages in this church of Christ of Latter Day Saints,” the scripture stated, “should be solemnized in a public meeting, or feast, prepared for this purpose..." (The Times and Seasons, 1842) 5- I think it's a scare tactic to teach YW that if you don't get married in the temple right of, you'll die. The YW have a lesson in which Spencer W. Kimball told a story that a couple who didn't get married in the temple died on their way to the honeymoon, then used strong language against it. This is wrong. 6- The LDS doesn't have a huge part of human culture - public weddings. This needs to change. 7 - Families get torn apart by this. It is wrong to not allow families not to see the weddings of each other.
  13. What is the actual role of the prieshood, and what is just the culture? For example, women never were asked to give prayers at General Conference. Giving prayers in meetings isn't a part of the priesthood, but for some reason it wasn't done. Women don't usually get leadership callings, unless it is with women or children, even though some positions aren't priesthood related (like Sunday School, for example).
  14. LOL yes you guys do. I have multiple stories I could share. We got a new bishopric. Our new second councilor said that he was going to have to watch himself to make sure that he doesn't treat us like children. That shouldn't be a problem at all if we were treated like adulits, married or not.
  15. They have an amazing ability to put in motherhood / marriage / homemaking into it, whether it has anything to do with the topic. Believe me. You haven't had a lesson where teachers talk about something different? There are also weeks where the RS Presidency choose and which they don't use the manual.