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    paracaidista508 got a reaction from David13 in Militarization of the police in cartoon format   
    This is why military style body armor and auto weapons are necessary.

    This is my friend getting the crap shot out of him. Read the commentary below the vid for addtl details.
     
     
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    paracaidista508 got a reaction from Vort in Your Political Views Reflects Your Moral Views   
    Generally people side with Democrats or Rebublicans. Sure there are other parties, but for the purpose of this exercise read the Party platform I linked to for the two parties and see if you can find anything in either platform  which is against the LDS religion.

    The party platform for each party is published approx every 4 yrs and lays out a plan and direction for the party. One can generally safely assume their candidate will generally follow and support that platform....usually.

    Anyway have fun.

    https://prod-static-ngop-pbl.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/2012GOPPlatform.pdf

    https://www.democrats.org/party-platform

    I found a few in the dem party platform: Bolded text is my emphasis
     
     
    1-  The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman's right to make decisions regarding her pregnancy, including a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay. We oppose any and all efforts to weaken or undermine that right. Abortion is an intensely personal decision between a woman, her family, her doctor, and her clergy; there is no place for politicians or government to get in the way. We also recognize that health care and education help reduce the number of unintended pregnancies and thereby also reduce the need for abortions.
     
    2-  We support marriage equality and support the movement to secure equal treatment under law for same-sex couples
     
     
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    paracaidista508 reacted to The Folk Prophet in Can you lose temple recommend over too much diet coke?   
    You missed one.
     
     
    Incorrect.
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    paracaidista508 got a reaction from pkstpaul in Do you have any thoughts as to why people become inactive?   
    My own personal experience why...

    I joined the military when I was 18 and still a senior in HS. Everyone knew about it and I was pretty much harrassed by my bishop, priest quorum leader, several members of my ward and even my seminary teacher.

    The common theme was you are doing the wrong thing, the military is bad, you will be a loser and you are messing up our ward track record of serving missionaries.

    I left after school let out and was under the impression that I genuinely was a bad person for not going on a mission. It is one thing when this comes from a couple random people, but when it comes from people in positions of authority in the church, well I believed it.

    Sad thing is I still see young men stigmatized for this to this day...I see it all the time. Too bad really. Most of them never come back. 
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    paracaidista508 got a reaction from NightSG in Church re-evaluating Scouting Program   
    Does anyone know how our LDS reps on the BSA executive council voted? in RE to the allowance of openly Gay leaders?
     
    I have found an article inferring the LDS members of the BSA Executive Council were not present for the vote:
     
    http://www.bgdailynews.com/features/mormons-struggle-with-scout-vote-on-gay-leaders/article_adc52b08-a832-558c-830a-0e079ebe0036.html
     
    "Reconciling its relationship with the Boy Scouts as the national youth group become more accepting of gay equality appears to be growing more difficult for the Mormon Church, whose press office put out a statement Monday, saying leaders were “deeply troubled” by the lifting of the ban, as well as by the fact that they had asked for a delay in the vote because the church bureaucracy takes off in July."
     
    I'm no genius at reading into things, but it would appear that many of or all of the LDS members of the BSA executive Council didn't even vote on this because they were......on vacation?
     
    Has anyone heard this? Perhaps it is just me, but if our church feels so strongly about not allowing openly Gay leaders you would think they all would have jumped on a plane to go vote on this.

    If this is the case, why did they not show up?
    If they didn't vote because they were on vacation then I am very disappointed.

    I hope I am wrong.


     
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    paracaidista508 got a reaction from NightSG in Church re-evaluating Scouting Program   
    This brings up yet another reason why LDS should get out of the scouting business or at least quit donating to FOS:
    We (our stake) are sponsoring our own week-long camps at least every other year now. Not only does this facilitate the cakewalk what is meritbadge classes, but we are also not using the BSA Scoutcamps which are staffed by paid staff who get their paycheck from....guess where? Yep FOS. Also the camp facilities are paid for with funds from FOS. 
    Essentially what we have here is the mormons paying for the traditional troops to use BSA camps and their staffs and we go and run our own camp and pay for that too. Stupid way to operate if you ask me. What happened to the "Thrifty" part of the Scout Law?
     
    Pretty stupid way to finance a program. We should be going to the BSA camps not our own. Why pay for other kids to go to camp and then get beat over the head again to pay for our own separate but equal camp???
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    paracaidista508 reacted to The Folk Prophet in Church re-evaluating Scouting Program   
    Thank you for helping me make my decision. I will be donating to friends of scouting this year.
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    paracaidista508 got a reaction from NightSG in Church re-evaluating Scouting Program   
    The explanation is IF the YW truly want all the programs (or equivalent) the boys have, the awards, campouts, the trips, etc they can have all the boys have and be commanded to go on a mission too- just like the boys. If they dont, they will be unfitting to be much of a wife...Kind of how in many ways lack of serving a mission makes a second class citizen out of a young man.
    Treated just like the boys and all the bells and whistles too.
    Most of the boys think scouting stinks anyway once they get to be about 14. Many of our scouts are scared to get dirty and so are many of their priesthood leaders. 
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    paracaidista508 got a reaction from Still_Small_Voice in My Own Thoughts on a Memorial Day Holiday   
    FYI- The Tomb is Guarded by the US Army, not the Marines. There has been a guard posted there continuously since 1937------------even in rain, shine, sleet, snow, hurricane 
     
    https://tombguard.org/society/faq/ 
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    paracaidista508 got a reaction from unixknight in Mission service: Culture, or canon?   
    Pres Monson didn't go on a mission when he was between 19 and 25 years old when he could have...
     
    I'm not gonna lose sleep over not going myself.
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    paracaidista508 got a reaction from Maureen in Mission service: Culture, or canon?   
    My understanding is it is a priesthood obligation of every worthy young man...

    That being said, my personal view is that it is a personal decision. One needs to decoide what to do, what to be and how to get there. Once that is decided, one needs to act and get going in life.

    My personal opinion as how mission service is regarded as by most members is MANDATORY.
     
    I chose not to go on a mission while I was still in high school. I enlisted in the Army and the wrath of the ward was unleashed upon me. I kinda say that jokingly, but that is the way I felt at the time.

    My Bishop, Seminary teacher, sunday school, priesthood leaders et al waged a constant campaign against me in order to straighten me out and get me to change my mind. My family was only passively supportive as they didnt hassle me. All my brothers went on missions except me. To this day, none of them gave me any grief.
     
    My church leaders never let up though... well at least until I left then I never heard from them again.  I was fairly angry about how I was treated.

    Fast fwd 4 yrs later and I found myself back home in a singles ward. I quickly found out there were young women who wouldnt give you the time of day unless you were an RM and others who were not so worked up about it. I married a fine young lady who was concerned if I would be a loving and industrious husband rather than just looking for someone who had "checked the box" as many did then and probably do to this day.
     
    Anyway- I have kids now and my expectation is they do something productive in society. I dont really care if they go on missions and it is rarely talked about.
     
    Our stake is on a constant offensive over making sure everyone knows it is expected of them (the boys that is). They basically say you are a second class citizen in the church unless you serve a mission. They dont put it that way, but that is the message. All the young ladies are reminded they should seek out an RM for a husband. Our Bishop came into Priesthood opening exercises a while back and made an announcement that the boys need to get their acts together because he didnt want any more young men to become unworthy and not go. He was upset because he had just had to help a young man cancel his mission call. He didnt say who it was, but we all knew. That kid has not been back to church since. 

    Anyway- i didnt go on a mission and I got my eagle, married in temple, have great kids, am active in the church, college degree, good job, never divorced and yet I see all around me many others who did the right thing who are complete failures in life. Not because they served a mission, but because a mission is not any guarantee of anything.  I also have many fellow brethren around me who served missions and are fine people with fine families. 

    A mission is for those who want to go. If you dont want to go- dont. Go do something worthwhile and move on. Be prepared to get an earful though.

    My two cents.
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    paracaidista508 got a reaction from David13 in Mission service: Culture, or canon?   
    My understanding is it is a priesthood obligation of every worthy young man...

    That being said, my personal view is that it is a personal decision. One needs to decoide what to do, what to be and how to get there. Once that is decided, one needs to act and get going in life.

    My personal opinion as how mission service is regarded as by most members is MANDATORY.
     
    I chose not to go on a mission while I was still in high school. I enlisted in the Army and the wrath of the ward was unleashed upon me. I kinda say that jokingly, but that is the way I felt at the time.

    My Bishop, Seminary teacher, sunday school, priesthood leaders et al waged a constant campaign against me in order to straighten me out and get me to change my mind. My family was only passively supportive as they didnt hassle me. All my brothers went on missions except me. To this day, none of them gave me any grief.
     
    My church leaders never let up though... well at least until I left then I never heard from them again.  I was fairly angry about how I was treated.

    Fast fwd 4 yrs later and I found myself back home in a singles ward. I quickly found out there were young women who wouldnt give you the time of day unless you were an RM and others who were not so worked up about it. I married a fine young lady who was concerned if I would be a loving and industrious husband rather than just looking for someone who had "checked the box" as many did then and probably do to this day.
     
    Anyway- I have kids now and my expectation is they do something productive in society. I dont really care if they go on missions and it is rarely talked about.
     
    Our stake is on a constant offensive over making sure everyone knows it is expected of them (the boys that is). They basically say you are a second class citizen in the church unless you serve a mission. They dont put it that way, but that is the message. All the young ladies are reminded they should seek out an RM for a husband. Our Bishop came into Priesthood opening exercises a while back and made an announcement that the boys need to get their acts together because he didnt want any more young men to become unworthy and not go. He was upset because he had just had to help a young man cancel his mission call. He didnt say who it was, but we all knew. That kid has not been back to church since. 

    Anyway- i didnt go on a mission and I got my eagle, married in temple, have great kids, am active in the church, college degree, good job, never divorced and yet I see all around me many others who did the right thing who are complete failures in life. Not because they served a mission, but because a mission is not any guarantee of anything.  I also have many fellow brethren around me who served missions and are fine people with fine families. 

    A mission is for those who want to go. If you dont want to go- dont. Go do something worthwhile and move on. Be prepared to get an earful though.

    My two cents.
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    paracaidista508 got a reaction from bytor2112 in Mission service: Culture, or canon?   
    My understanding is it is a priesthood obligation of every worthy young man...

    That being said, my personal view is that it is a personal decision. One needs to decoide what to do, what to be and how to get there. Once that is decided, one needs to act and get going in life.

    My personal opinion as how mission service is regarded as by most members is MANDATORY.
     
    I chose not to go on a mission while I was still in high school. I enlisted in the Army and the wrath of the ward was unleashed upon me. I kinda say that jokingly, but that is the way I felt at the time.

    My Bishop, Seminary teacher, sunday school, priesthood leaders et al waged a constant campaign against me in order to straighten me out and get me to change my mind. My family was only passively supportive as they didnt hassle me. All my brothers went on missions except me. To this day, none of them gave me any grief.
     
    My church leaders never let up though... well at least until I left then I never heard from them again.  I was fairly angry about how I was treated.

    Fast fwd 4 yrs later and I found myself back home in a singles ward. I quickly found out there were young women who wouldnt give you the time of day unless you were an RM and others who were not so worked up about it. I married a fine young lady who was concerned if I would be a loving and industrious husband rather than just looking for someone who had "checked the box" as many did then and probably do to this day.
     
    Anyway- I have kids now and my expectation is they do something productive in society. I dont really care if they go on missions and it is rarely talked about.
     
    Our stake is on a constant offensive over making sure everyone knows it is expected of them (the boys that is). They basically say you are a second class citizen in the church unless you serve a mission. They dont put it that way, but that is the message. All the young ladies are reminded they should seek out an RM for a husband. Our Bishop came into Priesthood opening exercises a while back and made an announcement that the boys need to get their acts together because he didnt want any more young men to become unworthy and not go. He was upset because he had just had to help a young man cancel his mission call. He didnt say who it was, but we all knew. That kid has not been back to church since. 

    Anyway- i didnt go on a mission and I got my eagle, married in temple, have great kids, am active in the church, college degree, good job, never divorced and yet I see all around me many others who did the right thing who are complete failures in life. Not because they served a mission, but because a mission is not any guarantee of anything.  I also have many fellow brethren around me who served missions and are fine people with fine families. 

    A mission is for those who want to go. If you dont want to go- dont. Go do something worthwhile and move on. Be prepared to get an earful though.

    My two cents.
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    paracaidista508 got a reaction from lagarthaaz in What do you think about WoW?   
    The Word of Wisdom is a law of health revealed by the Lord for the physical and spiritual benefit of His children. On February 27, 1833, as recorded in section 89 of the Doctrine and Covenants, the Lord revealed which foods are good for us to eat and which substances are not good for the human body. He also promised health, protection, knowledge, and wisdom to those who obey the Word of Wisdom. 
    https://www.lds.org/topics/word-of-wisdom?lang=eng
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    paracaidista508 got a reaction from lagarthaaz in What do you think about WoW?   
    I dont recall ever saying the Lord was concerned with making a  case..I asked how they expect to make the case for no coffee / tea while allowing much worse beverages to be consumed. The magazine article was very clear the stuff was horrible for you. Sounds to me like a case was being made to not drink it. If so, why not prohibit it? After all the WOW does not even mention coffee or tea,,,just hot drinks. Granted, interpretation and clarification has been added since. It also does not say I cant smoke weed either- just tobacco. Since no one should question anything I suppose I can blaze away and I'm still in compliance. I mean if I'm going to get flamed for asking, I should just go with strict interpretation- meaning just what it says.
    My point is why we (church officials) overlook clear and obvious violations and allow others to pass into the temple?
    If  I go to a recommend interview and my bishop saw me smoking the day before...im not getting a recommend. On the otherhand, if I was seen by my bishop the night before at a ward dinner and I cleaned up three plates of food, two sodas and three pieces of pie....weigh 300# and cant make it across the cultural hall for a fifth serving well I'll still be good to go.
    We know these people and they are everywhere. They get a pass (always) and if the rest of us decide a smoke or a cup o joe is in order we are very clearly violating the WOW.
    Now when I am speaking with a potential investigator about this to I tell them to shut up and obey or do I help them to understand?
    The WOW is very clearly not evenly enforced. 
    For full disclosure, Im not making fun of fat people (I could lose some myself), just making an illustration of an obvious violation that is essentially overlooked if not encouraged....when do we not have refreshments?
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    paracaidista508 got a reaction from Backroads in Scout troop advancement problems   
    Thanks everyone for the input..going with the DE route. Will let you know what happens.
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    paracaidista508 got a reaction from Backroads in Scout troop advancement problems   
    Squeeky wheel is the parent ....that would be me. I have my suspicions it is payback for raising cane at the stake level a few years ago about misplaced priorities and siezing of our ward scout funding for other projects.

    I wasnt in this ward though so maybe not. Other scouts are getting their awards, but my kid seems to get passed by everytime. Over a year's worth of courts of honor now.

    Probably will go council route so perhaps someone can audit all the mismanagement we have. I am beyond worrying about hurting the feelings of others.
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    paracaidista508 got a reaction from Crypto in Scout troop advancement problems   
    Our troop has all the required admin positions staffed and operational----well at least there is a living, breathing person in each position. This has been going on for about a year now. It isn't time sensitive yet, but will be eventually.

    The entire chain (SM, COR, Adv Chair, et al) is aware of this and has been since this time last year...some of them less (like last spring).
     
    The issue is not whether the scout earned it or we are lacking documentation. Everything is done, just no one is actioning it despite being reassured time and again that they are. I am a former advance chair so I know how easy this is to do---difficult if you are lazy. Chronic problem here.

    Don't really want to go to the stake because they have other troops in similar situation, but it isn't important enough to fix apparently. I will tell you though, our scouts can play a mean game of basketball.
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    paracaidista508 got a reaction from Backroads in Scout troop advancement problems   
    Our troop has all the required admin positions staffed and operational----well at least there is a living, breathing person in each position. This has been going on for about a year now. It isn't time sensitive yet, but will be eventually.

    The entire chain (SM, COR, Adv Chair, et al) is aware of this and has been since this time last year...some of them less (like last spring).
     
    The issue is not whether the scout earned it or we are lacking documentation. Everything is done, just no one is actioning it despite being reassured time and again that they are. I am a former advance chair so I know how easy this is to do---difficult if you are lazy. Chronic problem here.

    Don't really want to go to the stake because they have other troops in similar situation, but it isn't important enough to fix apparently. I will tell you though, our scouts can play a mean game of basketball.